Welcome back to another episode of 2nd Serving!  Today we welcome one of my colleagues and friends, the Rev. Dr. Roger Gench.  Prior to relocating to Richmond, Roger served as the Senior Pastor of The New York Avenue Presbyterian Church in Washington, DC from 2002–2019. He is currently Theologian in Residence here at Second Presbyterian Church and an adjunct faculty member at Union Presbyterian Seminary.  Additionally, he recently served as the Interim Editor and Editorial Consultant for the Presbyterian Outlook, and is the author of Theology from the Trenches: Reflections on Urban Ministry.  Enjoy this conversation about scholarship, community organizing, and more!