For our March episode host Justine Jecker, is joined by guest OTs Shiyen Shu and Gillian Barrie. Through discussing questions such as "could OTs have more of an impact around the world if they knew how to be better leaders?" and "how can we support leadership development for OT graduates, clinicians, and OT leaders?" they explore what it means to grow leadership in occupational therapy. Tune in today to hear more about Shiyen and Gillian's leadership journey!