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At the 11th hour, Kamala Harris is now the presumptive Democratic nominee. Longtime listeners will know that swing voters have had a negative impression of her--but luckily, it's just an impression!

David Axelrod, former senior advisor to President Obama, joins Sarah to walk through where Harris goes from here.

Show Notes:

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The Axe Files with David Axelrod

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