We're talking about sadness. Daniel, Debbie, Doug, and returning guest Jalen talk about dealing with the ups and downs of life in recovery, and how we all handle things differently. Talking about how our "mental breakdowns" look different now, and how it is important to have a way to check in with yourself. We also talk about Doug's tracksuit, jacuzzis, weather, and Debbie's beef with a certain West Michigan coffee chain.

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Casting Light is a production of Guiding Light, a free in-patient substance abuse treatment program offered to men in Grand Rapids, MI. To learn more go to GuidingLightWorks.org

Intro music by PVNCY