Call this the follow-up episode to the one a couple weeks ago, where we pondered when the best time to step down from power is. Well, turns out Joe Biden heard us, and is retiring.

As well, we talk about some of the trips we've had recently with guest Kyle Petryla!

The original episode about the second subject:

https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/generationdan/episodes/115-Hire--That--Giant--To-Help-You-Through-Your-First-Trip-e29g446

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