This week, we had the pleasure of chatting with Sam's grandparents and Julie's aunt and uncle, John and Joan.

John and Joan have been married over 60 years, have 4 beautuful kids, 11 grandkids, and 19 great grand kids.

Often reffered to as Bamo and Papa, this couple is the epitome of what a beautiful relationship looks like. They have set an example for our entire family.

They shared the ups and downs of marriage, what their secret is for 60+ years, and how to overcome difficult moments- together.

We appreciated their vulnerability around sobriety and they shared a few books during the episode that we will link below:

Five O'Clock Comes Early by Bob Welch and George Vecsey

Drinking: A love Story by Caroline Knapp

The Joy of Being Sober by Jack Mumey

Where did everybody go? by Paul Molloy

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