Michael Cooper is a US-born horn professor teaching at the Universidad de Talca, and former director of the School of Music at the same university.  In this episode, Michael and I talk about Chilean society, his remarkable adaptation to a new culture, cultural differences between the US and Chile, social change and upheaval since the 2019 estallido social, the effect of social media in political polarisation and the decay of civil discourse, and what needs to change in Chile for people to be able to listen to each other.