John Perretti is a prior pugilist, painter, and poet.  He was a professor at School of the Visual Arts New York City, the co-creator of Extreme Fighting, and coined the term “Mixed Martial Arts.” He founded the gym Madison Avenue Muscle.  He also holds multiple world records for Free Dive Spearfishing and a would-have-been world record for a black marlin that had a bite taken out of its stomach by a bull shark while John held tight.  He continues to dedicate himself to the largely unexplored territory between the fine and the martial arts. 

John is a very long-time friend with an even longer resume than anyone I've known or met.  Our conversation turned on many personal points as we aimed our attention at what we share and know.  We will continue to have two more conversations - and are also planning to add David Twinn for a three-in-one discussion - or more.    

Below is a link to John's autobiography: "The Origin of a Species" so filled with a mix of dramatic experiences as to be normally only found in great literature.  

https://a.co/d/b51DCuo