Enjoy this philosophical conversation around building code more responsibly and how ethics and accountability is to be integrated into the DevOps industry. Eric Tank joins the show and shares his perspective on how to “develop for deprecation”. Building a code that is documented, tested, monitored, and deployed is important, but can you easily pass it off to someone else, or be able to walk away from the code it entirely? Johnathan joins by saying that “software is never done until it’s deleted.” They finish the discussion referencing apprenticeship models and how accountability in this way could parallel other industries. Sponsors Top End Devs (https://topenddevs.com/) Raygun | Click here to get started on your free 14-day trial (https://raygun.com/?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=adventuresdevops&utm_campaign=devchat&utm_content=homepage) Coaching | Top End Devs (https://topenddevs.com/coaching) Links Evolutionary Design Without* Tests (https://pubmob.com/offerings/jbrains-evolutionary-design-without-tests/) Mastering Evolutionary Design - Jonathan Hall (https://jhall.io/archive/2021/11/16/mastering-evolutionary-design/) Twitter: Erik Tank ( @eriktank ) (https://twitter.com/erik_tank) Picks Eric- GitHub: ajeetdsouza/zoxide (https://github.com/ajeetdsouza/zoxide) Jillian- Get an elliptical for health and exercise Jillian- BookBub (https://www.bookbub.com/welcome) Jonathan- Razer Kiyo Pro Streaming Webcam (https://www.razer.com/streaming-cameras/razer-kiyo-pro) Jonathan-Jonathan Hall's Boldly Go YouTube Channel Will- Pulumi (https://www.pulumi.com/) Special Guest: Erik Tank.