Maxime Fern and Michael Johnstone are at the forefront of taking Adaptive Leadership out of academia and into boardrooms and learning spaces around the world. They come to the swamp to share their great book Provocation as Leadership: A roadmap for Adaptation and Change. Maxime and Michael have been working in family and organizational systems for most of their careers. They believe provocations are both necessary and helpful to building healthy groups. We discuss what makes up useful provocation, why it matters and they provide coaching on how to begin this important work. Our conversation just might provoke some new ideas and approaches for you in your work and life.

Links

Vantage Point Consulting

Provocation as Leadership book

Michael’s LinkedIN

I want to thank my great team that helps me sound better than I am.

• Jacki Hydock for her lending her wonderful voice to our introduction and outro

• Great music by Jazz Night

• Awesome episode production by the great team of We Edit Podcasts all the way up in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Check them out at www.weeditpodcasts.com

Thanks For Listening and Jumping into the Swamp