What the Hell is a Pastor?: Recent Episodes
Disruptive Disciples
Two current and former young pastors in small town ministry sit down each week to talk about the ups and downs of their jobs as they try to figure out what the hell it is they're supposed to be doing. Come for the behind-the-scenes look at ministry, stay for the theological asides.
In which Jo and Ethan catch up.
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In which the trio continue their conversation from the previous episode, but with more Q&A about homiletics and respecting your partners.
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In which a recurring guest comes on the pod to talk about a ministry opportunity.
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In which Jo visits the Young Clergy Women International Conference in Washington, DC, and catches a few quick interviews.
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In which Ethan and Jo catch up and then talk about Ethan's new appointment.
Want to see that entire Liev Schreiber clip? It's here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tofqtSCXk3k
Want to see Ethan's new digs? It's the background for today's episode image.
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In which Beth McKenney joins Ethan and Jo to explain three ethical theories (and a secret fourth option!) that could be applied to our conundrum in the episode, "K*ant" from February.
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In which Ian joins Jo to discuss their upcoming move to Albany, New York, and the trials and triumphs of re-entering the candidacy process.
You can read Ian's 2019 candidacy resignation letter here: https://um-insight.net/perspectives/something-new/
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss what Holy Week means to them and how people have interpreted eclipses in the past. (They also get into an argument about anthropocentrism, for those who are interested!)
You can look up how the April 8 eclipse is going to look in your area here: https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/in/usa/sperryville?iso=20240408
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In which Ian and Caleb join Ethan and Jo to talk about the work ahead of General Conference- Charlotte.
Here's that story about Adam Hamilton: https://um-insight.net/perspectives/an-open-letter-to-adam-hamilton/
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In which Jo talks about two shows she's seen recently.
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In which the pie is a lie.
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In which Ethan and Ian discuss ideas from some of their favorite women theologians.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss a recent church leadership case study.
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In which Ethan and Jo reflect on being embodied during this first full week of Colon Cancer Awareness Month.
Hey, how's your colon? If you have no idea how to answer that question, check out this guide that Jo made for work at https://libguides.su.edu/colon-cancer-awareness
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In which Ethan and Nick continue their conversation about post-theism and Tillich, this time with more of God's absence!
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In which Ethan and Nick discuss wrestling for about 18 minutes, then switch to post-theism, Tillich, and more.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss a fascinating case of pastoral malpractice.
You can read the story yourself here: https://people.com/connecticut-pastor-accused-selling-crystal-meth-out-of-church-s-rectory-8576519
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In which Spanks and the Dude refuse to talk about the He Gets Us ads.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss a couple of news stories from around their world.
Want to read the GREAT news about Pioneers? That's here: https://indyweek.com/news/pioneers-durham-closing/
Want to read the NOT GREAT news about General Conference prep? That's here: https://www.umnews.org/en/news/concerns-mount-about-general-conference-prep
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In which Spanks Rebok and the Dude continue their discussion of how to answer a congregant's ethical question.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about how to talk about ethics and the one secret philosopher that ethicist don't want you to know about.
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In which Spanks and the Dude continue their conversation about a truly fantastic show. Spoilers abound.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss the truly fantastic show, The Good Place. Spoilers abound.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss a report, which you can read here: https://www.churchleadership.com/leading-ideas/twenty-five-percent-of-churches-disaffiliated-from-the-united-methodist-church/
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss leadership, executives, pastoral care, and the standards we're held to.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss what we can't say for sure about God.
The book we're discussing is Specters of God by John D. Caputo.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss a practical ministry concern.
The sermon Jo mentions is here: https://www.ajschonewolf.com/home/thankfulness
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In which Spanks Rebok and the Dude are joined by John Westley, to discuss emergence, chaos, sin, and irresistible grace.
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(Get your COVID and flu shots, friends! Protect yourself and the most vulnerable around you!)
In which Ethan, Ian, and Jo discuss what sin is, and what it means to be human.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about Christian perfection.
Want to read A Plain Account of Christian Perfection? It's free online here.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about the incarnation and how Jesus isn't a werewolf.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss the possibility of divine risk.
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It's some real love your enemies type sh!t.
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In which Ian joins Jo and Ethan to discuss GC 2024, SGC 2026, GC 2028, and what the UMC must do in order to remain united globally.
A compendium of links to help you understand what has transpired:
- "Court Rules on General Conference Questions" from UM News: https://www.umnews.org/en/news/court-rules-on-general-conference-questions
- "Church court reverses call for extra General Conference" from UM News: https://www.umnews.org/en/news/church-court-revisits-general-conference-ruling
- "UMC bishops meet, request for 2025 General Conference among other decisions" from the Council of Bishops: https://www.unitedmethodistbishops.org/newsdetail/umc-bishops-meet-request-for-2026-general-conference-among-other-decisions-17416737
- "Bishops call for General Conference in 2026" from UM News: https://www.umnews.org/en/news/bishops-call-for-general-conference-in-2026#
- Judicial Council Decision Number 1472 from Resource UMC: https://www.resourceumc.org/en/churchwide/judicial-council/judicial-council-decision-home/judicial-decisions/judicial-council-decision-1472
- Judicial Council Memorandum Number 1485 from Resource UMC: https://www.resourceumc.org/en/churchwide/judicial-council/judicial-council-decision-home/judicial-decisions/memorandum-1485
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In which Ian joins Ethan and Jo to talk about future general conferences.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about The Bear, what it means to be from somewhere, the ahistorical fabrication of whiteness, and acting.
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In which Rev. Bonnie McCubbin joins Ethan and Jo to talk archives, history, camping ministries, self-promotion as a pastor, and grounding yourself in what you do.
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In which Pamela Dayton joins Jo to discuss free hugs, tear gas, her calling, refugee camps, her journey to seminary, antiracism, and how much she loves Jesus.
Pamela mentions Leroy Barber in this episode, as well as the book Exclusion and Embrace.
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In which Anananaphalaxis joins the Dude to discuss what to do when you f[udge] up.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss recent events in their lives, Jo's Thanksgiving sermon, and the utterly fantastic TV show, The Bear (along with some pretty interesting ideas about identity, if we may say so ourselves).
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss the new Flanangan show, which Ethan really liked!
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In which AhnnaLise, CJ, and Drew join Jo to discuss Borderlands and Evil.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about ordination, preaching, and what pastors have to believe.
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In which we share an episode from the Dangerous Liberal Lady Preachers podcast, "Praise to the Lord, the Almighty with Jo Schonewolf." Here's how they describe it:
"Content warning: This episode contains discussions of childhood sexual abuse and cancer, as well as a few more F-bombs than we normally drop.
Natalie chats with Jo Schonewolf, host of the podcast "What the Hell Is a Pastor?" Natalie and Jo talk about being a Christian in the '90s, the damage of purity culture, beating cancer, the new frontier of Christian podcasting, moving on after a toxic experience, and the complicated relationship pastors have with saying 4 letter words."
In which Paloma Holub and Mekhna George join Ethan and Jo to discuss their documentary, God's Love Split, disaffiliations in the UMC, and why these stories are important to tell.
Learn more about God's Love Split and how to schedule a screening at instagram.com/godslovesplit.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss how to think about communities.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss recent interviews and when it's good to disobey the Discipline.
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In which Paige and Elizabeth join Jo to discuss what came after one particular wedding. Part 2 of 2.
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In which Paige and Elizabeth join Jo to talk about their ministry stories and one particular wedding. Part 1 of 2.
Learn more about Paige's current work here: https://www.faithinwomen.org/
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In which Ethan talks about next steps in his PhD journey, what he's reading, and some really cool thoughts from a dead Scotsman.
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In which Ian joins Ethan and Jo to discuss the complaint process in the United Methodist Church.
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In which Spanks and the Dude envision what a ministry focused on story might look like.
You can get the book Ethan mentioned, The Sovereignty of Good by Iris Murdoch, at this link: https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-sovereignty-of-good-iris-murdoch/8162328?ean=9780415253994. (If you do, we get some money, which is nice.)
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss the most effective way to heal the harm the church has done.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss the IRD, First Things, The Babylon Bee, what stops necessary conversations, and what we can do about it.
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In which Drew Ensz returns to the podcast to talk about the end of the complaint against him, what healing looks like in this moment, and what's required of us as leaders.
Listen to our previous conversation with Drew here: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/what-the-hell-is-a-pastor/episodes/The-Prototypical-Pastor-e1l3rhk
Books in this episode: Let This Radicalize You by Kelly Hayes and Mariame Kaba. (That's an affiliate link- if you use it, we'll get some money.)
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss an article that's been making its way around clergy circles. You can read it for yourself here: https://www.restorativefaith.org/post/departure-why-i-left-the-church
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In which Rev. Corey Turnpenny talks to Ethan and Jo about the former Wyoming Conference, starting a church plant, and the support she received along the way.
Find Church in the Wild at https://churchinthewild.org/.
You can listen to our episode with Wayne and River of Life at https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/what-the-hell-is-a-pastor/episodes/Building-Relationships-and-Identifying-Passions-With-Rev--Wayne-Dickert-e1eb9lj
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In which Ian and Jo answer the question: "If you could see one stat above everyone's head, which stat would you pick?" It's a conversation about privacy, poverty, and superheroes, among many other topics.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss an essay by theologian and ethicist Stanley Hauerwas on Watership Down and how stories shape our communities.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss the practical and spiritual aspects of an infant baptism.
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CN: Purity Culture, violence towards women, sexual assault
In which we continue our conversation with scholar Elizabeth Anne McKenney about an under-criticized book.
You can find Beth on twitter @BethAMcKenney.
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CN: Purity Culture, violence towards women, sexual assault
In which scholar Elizabeth Anne McKenney joins Ethan and Jo to discuss a book that we're again not going to link here. You can find Beth on twitter @BethAMcKenney.
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What you want isn't really what it's about.
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Your feelings are still valid in the eschaton.
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In which Rachel returns to the podcast to talk about the decision to move appointments, her research, and what can happen when the Spirit shows up.
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In which Norwich walks the Dude through the origin, history, and practice of Godly Play.
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In which Laura joins Jo to talk about youth and children's ministry, interviewing for church jobs, and how seminary doesn't have to be the end of the world for you.
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In which Spanks regales the Dude about Julia Hart and the House of Black. Want to follow along? You can see the promos here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/follow-along-165-87147431
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In our inaugural episode of season 5, Ethan tells a camp story.
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In which John joins the podcast to talk about writing his own VBS, how to incorporate science into children's ministry, and why it's so important that we think about what we're teaching.
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In which Rev. Chris Wylie (AKA DJ Pastor Rock) returns to the podcast to talk about disability advocacy in the music industry, playing at Wild Goose, and making connections.
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In which Storyteller joins the Dude to discuss Romans 8, Paul, handling difficult passages, and leading with curiosity.
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In which Sarah Agnew returns to the podcast to discuss her new ministry balance, selling your skills to the church, and what denominations owe their ordained.
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In which Mark Vern joins Spanks and the Dude to discuss what it means to be in set apart ministry, how we have conversations in the UMC, and in which ways the institution needs to catch up to what Jesus is doing.
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In which Derrick Scott III joins us to talk about his journey into the ministry of the laity, being brought up in the church, and the kind of leadership he dreams for the UMC.
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In which Rev. Annie Britton continues her conversation with Jo about connecting with the Church Within a Church Movement, getting ordained, and what denominations could look like.
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In which Rev. Annie Britton joins Jo to talk about her ministry journey from Catholicism to the UMC to the Church Within A Church Movement.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss Switchfoot's new version of The Beautiful Letdown, Christian music in general, and how to cultivate holiness.
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In which Ethan tells some pretty great stories, if we're honest.
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In which Volcano joins Spanks and the Dude to talk about doing ministry outside of the parish.
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In which Kate Mackereth Fulton joins Jo and Ethan to discuss grounding yourself in your call, the necessity of support through struggle, and the work that goes into making the church safe for queer folks.
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In which Quaker Oats joins Spanks and the Dude to discuss Oat's summer research, Confederate statues, and how to get into grad school.
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In which Justin returns to the podcast to talk about his sophomore year at Penn, his research, and why he's involved with every church in West Philadelphia.
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In which John joins the podcast again to tell us about who owns the NIV, the general bent of Christian publishing houses, and the nuanced story of Focus on the Family. You can listen to part 1 here.
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In which John joins the podcast again to tell us about who owns the NIV, the general bent of Christian publishing houses, and the nuanced story of Focus on the Family. Part 1 of 2.
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In which Balaam's Ass joins Spanks and the Dude to talk revival, sanctification, and hugging Hitler.
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In which Patrick joins Ethan and Jo to discuss Metropolitan Community Churches, his journey to his current congregation, and the different tactics we can use to work toward inclusion.
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In which P Shemmy and Miss Understood join Spanks and the Dude to discuss the ordination questions that have captured their imagination the most, caring for those who are dying, and whether we'll ever realize that we are, in fact, pastors.
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In which Shemaiah and Sam join Ethan and Jo to talk the individual experience of the ordination process, working with other pastors, and patience.
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In which Robert Feline join Spanks Rebok and the Dude to talk the theology of musicals, the power of bowties, and the joy of queerness. It's a true delight.
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In which Chett joins Ethan and Jo to discuss being queer in Appalachia, going to seminary, and the life of a theologically-educated lay person in the UMC.
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In which Jack Bear Hunter and Lars join Spanks and the Dude to continue their discussion of the YA contribution to Mike Flannigan's Netflix horror universe.
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In which Nick and Ahnna Lise join Jo and Ethan to discuss the YA contribution to Mike Flannigan's Netflix horror universe.
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In which Lars and the Dude talk about ordination, sacramental authority, and cutting yourself a break.
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In which Nick joins Jo to talk about the importance of building relationships, both in the community and through liturgy.
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In which the Dude talks about a conference she went to.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss church placements, hot gossip, German pietism, and God's sadness.
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In which Ian joins Ethan and Jo to discuss what the church is good at and where its goals should lie.
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In which Ian joins Ethan and Jo to discuss the liturgy for a bishop's installation and how bishops can use their power for good, actually. This naturally sparks a completely normal, non-existential conversation about what the church is capable of. Strap in, folks. It's bumpy 'til Thursday.
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CN: Racism against Indigenous people, false claims of Indigenous ancestry.
In which Spanks Rebok regales the Dude with stories of professional wrestler and fraudster, Ted DiBiase.
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MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR EPISODES 1-5 OF THE LAST OF US
Turns out, it's actually about love, in the end.
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In which DJ Pastor Rock and the Dude talk about what Bob's Burgers has to do with insecurity, letting go, and living lives closer to love.
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In which Pastor Chris joins Ethan and Jo to discuss new projects, the golden thread of his theology, and the possibility of a new patreon perk: paying money to argue with Ethan.
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In which Spanks Rebok and the Dude talk about what Spanks is reading these days.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about a book Jo reviewed.
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In which Spanks Rebok and the Dude reflect on how their theologies have changed.
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In which Ethan and Jo read through a document from nearly a decade ago.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss Christofascism in its varying levels, this time with more Niebuhr (and a shout out to Dr. Rebekah Miles!).
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss Christofascism in its varying levels. Tune in Thursday for part 2!
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In which Spanks Rebok and the Dude tackle what can only generously be called a Bonhoeffer biography and two "inspirational" books by a famous author.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss a criticism of the Asbury revival.
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In which Spanks Rebok, the Dude, and John Westley discuss those Super Bowl ads and the revival everyone's talking about.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss substitute teaching, third spaces, the ordination process, covenants, and the Ass Boys.
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In which Ethan and Jo continue their AI discussion, including sentience, the majestic octopus, The Wild Thornberries, Boston Personalism, the Cars Franchise, and pornographic images on Twitter.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss some good news, a horror movie about sheep, nature, and AI.
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In which Spanks and the Dude review the 1992 classic Whoopi Goldberg/Maggie Smith film, and offer some thoughts on storytelling about faithful people.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss funerals for the unchurched, and more.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss when connectionalism works and when it breaks down.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss Methodism and the language of reformation.
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In which we share episode 2 of the new podcast, Bar of the Conference, where friend of the pod, Ian, joins host Derrick Scott III to discuss holy conferencing and much, much more. Find Bar of the Conference wherever you find podcasts, and get more information on the podcasts Derrick works on at https://www.wesleysrevival.com/.
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In which Spanks and the Dude talk about whether they're spiritual or religious.
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In which Ethan and Jo catch up and talk about unresolved emotions and complicated grief.
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In which Jo and Ethan reflect on this episode from 2020 and listen back. Here's how we described it then:
In which Ethan and Jo talk about all the nuanced problems with Christianity and money. The books Ethan and Jo recommend are Christianity and the New Spirit of Capitalism by Kathyrn Tanner, Being Consumed by William Cavanaugh, and On Social Justice: St. Basil the Great from the Popular Patristics series.
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In which Jo sits down with Jeremy Smith, of Methodism and HackingChristianity.net fame to discuss church plants, accountability, and Pioneers. This is the full interview, clips of which were used in our Pioneering Durham series. Other full interviews are available to our patrons at patreon.com/wthiap.
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In which Jo and Ethan reflect on this episode from 2020 and listen back. Here's how we described it then:
In which Ian, Ethan, and Jo share their stories of how they decided to go to seminary and how they ended up at Wesley.
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In which Jo and Ethan reflect on this episode from 2020 and listen back. Here's how we described it then:
Join Spanks Rebok, the Dude, and John Westley as they discuss process theology and why it appeals.
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In which Jo and Ethan reflect on this episode from 2020 and listen back. Here's how we described it then:
In which Ethan and Jo begin by talking about their weeks and end up, as they inevitably do, talking about death.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about an idea for a paper that Ethan has, including the Trinity, the death of God, theodicy, the eschaton, community, solidarity and God's absence. It's a deep one, friends.
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In which Ian joins Ethan and Jo to discuss teaching, Bonhoeffer, and sanctification.
Alternative title: Bonhoeffer: Making It Through the Eye of the Needle.
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CN: Cancer, death, suffering
In which Ethan and Jo discuss Jo's diagnosis and her new frenemy, Hubert, called Harold.
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In which General Nuisance joins Spanks Rebok and the Dude to discuss fascism in the media and what our moral obligations are.
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CN: Purity Culture, violence towards women, sexual assault
In which scholar Elizabeth Anne McKenney joins Ethan and Jo to discuss a book that we're certainly not going to link here. You can find Beth on twitter @BethAMcKenney.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss Methodism's most recent regional conferences.... and centrists.
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In which Pamela joins Ethan and Jo to discuss her last church position.
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In which The Flatwoods Monster joins Spanks and the Dude to discuss the origins of alien conspiracy theories.
As mentioned in the episode, here's Tom Lehrer's Wernher von Braun: https://youtu.be/TjDEsGZLbio
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In which AhnnaLise, CJ, and Drew join Ethan and Jo to discuss The Exorcism of Emily Rose and The Wailing.
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In which Spanks Rebok tells the Dude about John Chrysostom and Basil the Great on poverty and Jonathan Edwards on the Trinity.
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In which AhnnaLise joins Jo to continue their discussion of the Salem Witch Trials.
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In which AhnnaLise joins Jo to discuss the Salem Witch Trials.
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WHAT THE HELL IS A PASTOR HAS MERCH!
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We reflect on where things stand with Pioneers.
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We investigate the state of the United Methodist Church and how uncertainty played a role in Pioneers' launch.
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In which Jan joins Jo to discuss call, college, bridging academia and church, and a lifetime in ministry.
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We meet Caleb and pick up our story as Pioneers prepares for launch.
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WHAT THE HELL IS A PASTOR HAS MERCH!
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In which Ian and Jo discuss what technology is, exactly, and have such a good time that they decide to release it on the main feed. For 79 more episodes of Pillow Talk, head to patreon.com/wthiap and subscribe.
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In this episode, Ethan and Jo reflect on the story we've heard so far.
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CN: discussion of death by suicide and suicidal ideation, child loss (beginning around 15:30)
In which Spanks and the Dude discuss the Netflix series The Sandman, including plot, characters, casting, and what authentic storytelling looks like.
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In the second of a multi-part series, we tell the story of Pioneers Durham, a church plant in downtown Durham. In this episode, we meet Trinity UMC's new ministry team.
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WHAT THE HELL IS A PASTOR HAS MERCH!
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In which Ethan's audio is lost and Sara Beth joins Jo to talk about call, discernment, paths to ministry, and what breaks our heart.
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WHAT THE HELL IS A PASTOR HAS MERCH!
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In the first of a multi-part series, we tell the story of Pioneers Durham, a church plant in downtown Durham. In this episode, we get to know our first storyteller, Alice.
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WHAT THE HELL IS A PASTOR HAS MERCH!
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In which Spanks, the Dude, and John Westley discuss a movie that somehow came out more than a year ago.
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In which we hear Ethan, Jo, and Ian discuss the machinations behind the downfall of the UMC, again.
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In which Spanks Rebok makes his triumphal return to minisodes with a thorny pastor problem.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss Jo's new job, Ethan's morality, and why neoliberal capitalism must be countered with real relationships.
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In which Blanche joins John Westley and the Dude to talk creating sacred spaces, caring for living spaces, and Wesley's original foosball table.
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In which Ethan joins Jo to tell the story of the Shockmaster. If you want more wrestling content, head over to the patreon to hear our discussion of the Undertaker's career, coming out later today!
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In which Jessie joins Ian and Jo to discuss conferencing, community, and sacred art.
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...is that someone feels loved. In which John joins Jo again to discuss a resolution passed by the Baltimore-Washington Conference regarding climate science, along with the arguments behind it, and how we can challenge conspiracy theories when they make their way into the church.
You can see John's episode notes here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-notes-70301517
Here's part 1 of the discussion about gender that Jo references: https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/R3HTRq6smsb
And part 2: https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/avsqtphtmsb
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In which John joins Jo to discuss theology after the Civil War, the Scopes Trial, and other pivotal moments in the development of American conspiratorial thinking.
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Jo references these two previous podcast episodes in this episode:
Room for Discussion: https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/sxVdiahzjsb
The Natural and the Good: https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/8ZQNFVlzjsb
Resonances:https://anchor.fm/what-the-hell-is-a-pastor/episodes/Resonances-with-Rabbi-Mike-Harvey-e135ai2
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In which Aggressively Janet joins Spanks and the Dude to discuss gnostic heresies, children's messages, and encountering questions with wonder.
The book Janet and Jo were discussing is Last Stop on Market Street, which you can find here: https://bookshop.org/books/last-stop-on-market-street-9780399257742/9780399257742
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CN: We have a brief, non-detailed discussion of preventing child sexual abuse in churches beginning at 22:00 and ending at 27:45.
In which Janet joins Ethan and Jo to discuss her ministry, her church, and what it is that deacons are called to.
Transcripts, when available, can be found at patreon.com/wthiap. Just search for the episode title.
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In which Tower Shaker joins John Westley and the Dude to talk preaching challenging texts.
Find Rabbi Mike on Twitter @RabbiHarvey and buy his book, Let's Talk: A Rabbi Speaks to Christians, on Barnes and Noble here: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lets-talk-michael-e-harvey/1140892035
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Interested in catching up on our previous episodes with Rabbi Mike? They are:
Resonances: https://anchor.fm/what-the-hell-is-a-pastor/episodes/Resonances-with-Rabbi-Mike-Harvey-e135ai2
Right on Time: https://anchor.fm/what-the-hell-is-a-pastor/episodes/Right-on-Time-e1buu43
Lost in Translation: https://anchor.fm/what-the-hell-is-a-pastor/episodes/Bonus-Episode-Lost-in-Translation-e1c1ik1
Room for Discussion: https://anchor.fm/what-the-hell-is-a-pastor/episodes/Room-for-Discussion-e1lleoi
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In which Rabbi Mike Harvey joins Ian and Jo to talk common mistakes Christians make about Judaism, interfaith conversations, and how Christians can respect Jesus' Judaism. Find Rabbi Mike on Twitter @RabbiHarvey and buy his book, Let's Talk: A Rabbi Speaks to Christians, on Barnes and Noble here: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lets-talk-michael-e-harvey/1140892035
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Resonances: https://anchor.fm/what-the-hell-is-a-pastor/episodes/Resonances-with-Rabbi-Mike-Harvey-e135ai2
Right on Time: https://anchor.fm/what-the-hell-is-a-pastor/episodes/Right-on-Time-e1buu43
Lost in Translation: https://anchor.fm/what-the-hell-is-a-pastor/episodes/Bonus-Episode-Lost-in-Translation-e1c1ik1
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In which Auggie of Flippo joins Spanks and the Dude to talk Christian Nationalism and how to resist it.
You can find the podcast episode Auggie mentions here: https://thedigradio.com/podcast/police-w-mariame-kaba-and-geo-maher/
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In which Dr. Rick Elgendy returns to the podcast to discuss the search for a rector, the search for a professor, and the ins and outs of hiring on both sides of the table.
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In which Blondie joins Spanks and the Dude to talk horror, Christianity, and survival.
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In which Drew Ensz joins Ethan and Jo to talk about his ministry journey, including the experience that drew him to full-time ordained ministry and a recent experience that has encouraged him to stay in the fight.
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In which a discussion of the Dude's long COVID diagnosis and recent Supreme Court decisions require a palate cleanser. Interested in hearing the fourth and final part of our conversation, concerning the morality of Philip Frond? Head over to our patreon!
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In which a discussion of the Dude's long COVID diagnosis and recent Supreme Court decisions spark a conversation about failures of political imagination and courage. It's... not an easy one, friends, so skip as needed, or plan time for our palate cleanser, Minisode 124.
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In which Ophelia Hu Kinney joins Jo to talk about her journey in faith, learning the ins and outs of the UMC, and navigating realities as queer people. You can find Ophelia on instagram @opxihk, learn more about Reconciling Ministries Network at rmnetwork.org, and find her devotion at https://www.ourbibleapp.com/new-blog/ophelia-hu-kinney.
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The content Ophelia recommended in the episode is "Murmurations: How to be Accountable With Your Words" by Adrienne Maree Brown in Yes! Magazine and the post, "a beautiful moment in your past is not a reason to stay in the ruins of your present," by @joyvetterlein.
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In which Spanks Rebok and the Dude discuss Kenobi, science fiction, the Powers and Principalities, and find themselves stuck, as ever, on the problem of ordination.
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Always remember that no matter what the Supreme Court says, we can take care of us. Here's a great list of resources from someone who's been in the fight for reproductive justice for a while: https://twitter.com/TheRaDR/status/1541101598621016064?s=20&t=QaHB5I1uWfOKhkE0vnOcjg and here are places to donate: https://donations4abortion.com/
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In which Steve joins Ethan and Jo to discuss who the real Christians are, the challenge of extremism, the nature of public faith, and the role busyness plays in our thinking. Join us for Part 3 on Thursday.
The tweet in question: https://twitter.com/AJ_Schwlf/status/1537918899840200704
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Always remember that no matter what the Supreme Court says, we can take care of us. Here's a great list of resources from someone who's been in the fight for reproductive justice for a while: https://twitter.com/TheRaDR/status/1541101598621016064?s=20&t=QaHB5I1uWfOKhkE0vnOcjg and here are places to donate: https://donations4abortion.com/
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In which Steve joins Jo to talk about what they're reading, social commentary in science fiction, God's action in the world, sanctification, and the founding symbols of the United States. Join us for Part 2 on Wednesday and Part 3 on Thursday.
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Always remember that no matter what the Supreme Court says, we can take care of us. Here's a great list of resources from someone who's been in the fight for reproductive justice for a while: https://twitter.com/TheRaDR/status/1541101598621016064?s=20&t=QaHB5I1uWfOKhkE0vnOcjg and here are places to donate: https://donations4abortion.com/
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In which Quaker Oats makes a triumphal return to the pod to talk wealth, inequality, and institutions.
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In which an actual college sophomore joins Ethan to talk about theology, sociology, and moving away from home.
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In which DJ Pastor Rock joins Spanks and the Dude to talk disability theology, what heaven will be like, and inclusion in organizing.
You can learn more about The Poor People's Campaign and their mobilization event on June 18 in Washington, DC at https://www.poorpeoplescampaign.org/june18/.
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In which Reverend Chris Wylie joins Ethan and Jo to talk about his journey to ordination, connecting to the community and to the margins, and the ins and outs of being disabled in ministry. You can learn more about his work and support his ministry by visiting https://djpastorrock.com/ and https://rollingnation.net/. His album, Rolling Nation, is out now.
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In which Spanks Rebok elucidates theopoetics for the Dude and the duo discuss how it could impact their theology.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss guns (you knew this was coming), activism, Tillich, Niebuhr, and the practices we must keep.
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In which Curly Rural joins Spanks Rebok and the Dude to discuss spiritual babies and toddlers, clergy, ecclesiology, and the importance of starting somewhere rather than not starting at all.
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In which Dr. Heather Major joins Ethan and Jo to talk about her research, including longing for spiritual connection, revamping worship, and finding the heart of the community.
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In which Zyra joins Spanks and the Dude to investigate the metaphorical power of kayfabe, what makes a person a person, and why we do ethics.
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In which Melanie joins Ethan and Jo to talk Science and Religion, the TV show Lost (spoilers!), and how we can improve our conversations in these trying times.
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In which Mothman and the Flatwoods Monster visit the podcast to talk about the genesis of modern conspiracy theories and how to engage with them.
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In which Grace and John join Ethan and Jo to discuss what it's like to be a clergy person married to another clergy person in the UMC, how they met, how they got into ministry, and how they've supported each other through it all.
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In which Spanks Rebok regales the Dude with stories about wrestler Jesse Ventura, they share their mutual love of the Rock, and take a hard left turn around 23:30 to talk about the recent news surrounding Roe v. Wade, the Global Methodist Church, and what community looks like in times like these.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about everyone's favorite Lutheran theologian's time in Barcelona and Harlem and his relationship with Barth and the German academy, with a little bit of anti-facism thrown in, just for fun.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss Arthur McGill's Structures of Inhumanity and how redefining the demonic might help us change the world.
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In which Viola joins Ethan and Jo to discuss theology in the public square in Ukraine, the history and influence of Orthodox Christianity, and the importance of paying attention.
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In which the Dude has some questions about the Resurrection and Spanks Rebok reflects.
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In which we share an episode of Overthinkers, International, a new podcast discussing what Christians are reading these days. To hear more, subscribe to Overthinkers International wherever podcasts are found.
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In which Spanks and the Dude talk about health and how to deal.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss Holy Week services and why we do them, Hannah Arendt's concept of natality, and the wrestling career of Minoru Suzuki, among other things.
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In which P. Shemmy and Lil Angie join Spanks and the Dude to talk about being young and in ministry.
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In which Shemaiah and Rachel join Ethan and Jo to discuss cross-cultural appointments, leaning into community, and Bible studies.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss when, exactly, to engage.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about what Ethan's reading.
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After some reflection, Ian and Jo land on what's really at the heart of things.
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In which Super Chill joins Spanks and the Dude to talk about Methodist women's role in Prohibition, the legacy of Pauli Murray, and how John Wesley became the face of Budweiser.
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In which Tara joins Ethan and Jo to discuss the history of United Women in Faith, how to connect locally and nationally, and why she still believes in the UMC. And hey, while you're on the internet, why not subscribe to response Magazine?
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In which The Off-Beat Accompianist and the Dude talk about parenting, worship, and images of God.
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In which Spanks Rebok and the Dude talk about the importance of making the implicit explicit and how Christians respond to war.
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In which DeLyn and Jo talk about what it's like to hear a call to ministry, the Church Within a Church movement, and how music can carry us onward.
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In celebration of the one-year anniversary of Pillow Talk, our patreon-only podcast, we're releasing a Pillow Talk episode into the main feed for your enjoyment. You had Pillow Talk questions and Ian and Jo have Pillow Talk answers! Tune in for discussions of what the pair are doing for Lent, explanations of antimatter, existential questions about the composition of the Moon, and so much more.
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In which John Westley sticks around to discuss glory, worship, and honor with Spanks and the Dude.
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In which Ian joins Ethan and Jo to talk about recent developments in the UMC, the nefarious role of the IRDC, and reasons to stay in the struggle.
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In which D'Andre Ash joins Ethan and Jo to talk about growing up charismatic, being an entrepreneur and a pastor, and his daughter's favorite vacation.
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In which Spanks and the Dude talk about incarnational ministry, theologies of the incarnation, Divine Simplicity, and poetry. It's theology hour on What the Hell is a Pastor once again!
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In which Nicole joins Jo to talk about rural ministry, vitality, and how parishes can support people of child-bearing age in ministry, among many, many other subjects.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss imposter syndrome in churches, why Bible study isn't adult education, and how Messy Church can save us all.
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In which Ethan and Jo catch up on what's been happening in their lives, through the lens of interpretative theory.
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In which guest Wayner joins Ethan and Jo discuss his ministry story, Fresh Expressions, and the importance of lay-lead ministries.
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The What the Hell is a Pastor theme song is written by Jo Schonewolf, performed by Jo Schonewolf (she's so sorry) and Ian Urriola, featuring vocals from Paul Urriola and produced by Paul Urriola.
In which John Westley joins Spanks and the Dude to discuss a recent controversy over vaccines equity in the UMC, along with the state of General Conference 2020.
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In which Talulah joins Spanks and the Dude to talk about what we deserve.
The book Spanks Rebok references is Michael G. Long's Peaceful Neighbor: Discovering the Countercultural Mister Rogers.
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The What the Hell is a Pastor theme song is written by Jo Schonewolf, performed by Jo Schonewolf (she's so sorry) and Ian Urriola, featuring vocals from Paul Urriola and produced by Paul Urriola.
In which guest Pamela joins Ethan and Jo to talk about how we train pastors, what it means to have a passion for youth, and if a church can be redeemed.
Shout out to the Lewis Center for Church Leadership for teaching a class on transitions in ministry, which Jo took and helped her understand how to better manage people, even though she forgot to talk about this in the episode.
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In which Spanks Rebok recounts a pro wrestling indy show in Pittsburgh and the Dude reacts.
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Content note: this episode contains brief discussion of negative self-talk and thoughts of suicide.
In which Ethan and Jo reflect on Jo's experience preaching at his charge. In case you're interested in the sermon in question, it's here.
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In which Spanks and the Dude talk about what makes good fan art good.
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The What the Hell is a Pastor theme song is written by Jo Schonewolf, performed by Jo Schonewolf (she's so sorry) and Ian Urriola, featuring vocals from Paul Urriola and produced by Paul Urriola.
In which Jo shares the ins and outs of her recent experience with Omicron and the duo reflect on the things that need to change. Her twitter threads about the experience are here, for those who like their podcasts with a side of reading.
Goes without saying, but we're not doctors, medical experts, or infectious disease experts. But be nice to those people. And listen to them. And wear a mask.
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In which Spanks and the Dude talk about their love of Nathan Fillion (really, the whole cast of Firefly), Spanks Rebok's Star Wars Theory, and how the Lost Cause problem could have been avoided in everyone's favorite space western.
ALL THE FIREFLY AND SERENITY SPOILERS
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MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR THE ENTIRETY OF DON'T LOOK UP, DOWN TO THE VERY LAST SCENE
In which Ethan and Jo discuss the new Netflix movie everyone's talking about, including the value of using allegory, the way our worldview limits our storytelling, Timothée Chalamet's prayer, and Cate Blanchett's astounding range.
If you've seen the movie and are stressed out about killer comets, here are some actual astronomers telling you to rest easy.
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If we'd thought ahead, we would have done a minisode extravaganza for this 100th minisode, but instead, you're getting a pop culture grab bag. In which Spanks and the Dude discuss a recent Disney movie, Harry Potter houses, Man in the High Castle, and more!
I'm a Hufflepuff!
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss the value of the creeds, the function of rights in the public health discourse, and how none of us are fully prepared to have conversations like these.
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In which Spanks and the Dude talk about the divinity of Christ, the importance of the Resurrection, and the responsibility of the pulpit. It's a tricky one.
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In which dirty laundry is aired and next steps are contemplated.
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If you're new, maybe, uh, don't start off with this one? Or do. We can't stop you.
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In which the Dude reflects on her new-found ability to create and Spanks wraps up his conversation about WCT.
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The What the Hell is a Pastor theme song is written by Jo Schonewolf, performed by Jo Schonewolf (she's so sorry) and Ian Urriola, featuring vocals from Paul Urriola and produced by Paul Urriola.
In which TOWER SHAKER joins John Westley and the Dude to talk about the Septuagint, the Masoretic Text, and why the Hebrew Bible is not the same thing as the Old Testament. We promise that it'll rock your world.
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In which Rabbi Mike Harvey joins Ian and Jo to talk hospital chaplaincy, winter holidays, interfaith work, and a rabbi's take on who theology is for.
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The What the Hell is a Pastor theme song is written by Jo Schonewolf, performed by Jo Schonewolf (she's so sorry) and Ian Urriola, featuring vocals from Paul Urriola and produced by Paul Urriola.
In which the Dude reflects on her new-found ability to create and Spanks wraps up his conversation about WCT.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss happenings on Weird Christian Twitter, but, more importantly, who theology is for.
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In which a question about the mother of Jesus morphs into a discussion of Irenaean recapitulation and Schleiermachian redemption.
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In which Jo resigns.
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In which Spanks and the Dude talk about Tick, Tick, Boom! before pivoting to the challenge of dreaming when you're exhausted.
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The What the Hell is a Pastor theme song is written by Jo Schonewolf, performed by Jo Schonewolf (she's so sorry) and Ian Urriola, featuring vocals from Paul Urriola and produced by Paul Urriola.
In which Ethan shares a heartwarming story from church, the duo talk eschatology and Christ the King, and Jo ruminates on her new job.
If you're looking for a good religion journalist to follow on Twitter, Ethan shouts out Chrissy Stroop in this episode (though he does not get her name right, and we're sorry about that.)
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In which Tera Rising joins Spanks Rebok and the Dude to talk about Christian community, the complexity of peace, and the fear of being immoral.
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The What the Hell is a Pastor theme song is written by Jo Schonewolf, performed by Jo Schonewolf (she's so sorry) and Ian Urriola, featuring vocals from Paul Urriola and produced by Paul Urriola.
In which Sam joins Ethan and Jo to spend about half an hour explaining what his week looks like.
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In which Storyteller joins Spanks and the Dude to talk about lockdown life in Australia, how to generously deal with people who are being difficult (like Paul the Apostle), and what it's like to serve as a minister in Australia's capital.
Want more Storyteller in your life? You can listen to her podcast Peacock's Roost and follow it on instagram, look up her books, blog, and liturgy at https://www.sarahagnew.com.au/, and follow her on twitter @sarahstories and on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/sarahagnew.storyteller.
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The What the Hell is a Pastor theme song is written by Jo Schonewolf, performed by Jo Schonewolf (she's so sorry) and Ian Urriola, featuring vocals from Paul Urriola and produced by Paul Urriola.
In which storyteller, poet, and minister, the Rev. Dr. Sarah Agnew joins the podcast for some nuts and bolts conversation about ministry in the Uniting Church of Australia, how getting a PhD fits into her ministry, and why there are peacocks in her front yard.
Want more Sarah in your life? You can listen to her podcast Peacock's Roost and follow it on instagram, look up her books, blog, and liturgy at https://www.sarahagnew.com.au/, and follow her on twitter @sarahstories and on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/sarahagnew.storyteller.
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In which Spanks talks about Tillich, Schleiermacher, and some ideas for his dissertation.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about ordination services.
You can read Jeremy Smith's "State of the UMC" series over at HackingChristianity.net.
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In which Spanks Rebok explains the aesthetics of white supremacy to the Dude, along with some ideas about how we might topple it.
In this episode, we reference The Aesthetics of Solidarity: Our Lady of Guadalupe and American Democracyby Nichole M. Flores and Bleak Liberalism by Amanda Anderson.
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Major Ted Lasso Spoilers
In which Nick and Angie join Ian and Jo to discuss the women of Ted Lasso, Nate's character arc, receiving trauma dumps, and what seminarians and pastors alike can learn from Ted Lasso. It's a fun one, friends!
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about the fear at the heart of a lot of churches right now, the challenges of ministering with people in intractable situations, and getting advice from Boomers on LinkedIn.
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In which the Dude shares all her hot takes on the Salem Witch Trials, Doc Meatus takes the ball and runs with it, and the whole crew discusses teeth, yoga, Night Vale, the numinous, and Tillich's concept of the shock of non-being.
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In which CJ makes her glorious return to the podcast to talk the origins of the horror genre, the fraughtness of belief, Frankenstein, Hell Houses, and more.
Recommendations from this episode: Men, Women, and Chain Saws: Gender in the Modern Horror Film by Carol Clover and the 2001 documentary, Hell House.
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We've been living our best October lives over on Pillow Talk this month, and we wanted to share that with you all! Enjoy this episode of Pillow Talk, which concludes with Ian sharing the scariest story he knows.
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In which the Dude talks about officiating her aunt's funeral and Spanks reflects.
The book we talk about is This Incomplete One: Words Occasioned by the Death of a Young Person, edited by Michael D. Bush.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss those little things Boomers sometimes say, including the current situation with the Boy Scouts.
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Midnight Mass spoilers The Haunting of Hill House spoilers The Haunting of Bly Manner spoilers
In which Ethan and Jo discuss the things they loved and the things they'd change about the latest Mike Flannigan Netflix series. Topics covered include beautiful filmmaking, quality acting, the importance of caring for your characters, dealing with poverty in film, and what counts as theology. And yes, we know that the sheriff is played by the delightful Rahul Kohli and that he doesn't share a name with his character in iZombie, that Erin Greene is played by the powerful Kate Siegel and that she doesn't share a name with her character in Hill House, and that Doctor Gunning's mother's name is Mildred. It's a challenge to keep track sometimes.
The Vox piece we refer to is here.
Check out our glowing review of The Haunting of Hill House and our pretty content review of The Haunting of Bly Manor.
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In which Spanks and the Dude talk about wildly varying reactions to sermons, visiting a COVID memorial, and what freedom in Christ really means.
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In which Spanks Rebok explains CM Punk to the Dude.
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The What the Hell is a Pastor theme song is written by Jo Schonewolf, performed by Jo Schonewolf (she's so sorry) and Ian Urriola, featuring vocals from Paul Urriola and produced by Paul Urriola.
In which Ethan and Jo discuss their weeks, the first two episodes of Midnight Mass with mild spoilers, feminism, and Pastor Appreciation Month.
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In which Spanks and the Dude navigate pastoral prayer politics and recent twitter debates.
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In which Jo and Ethan talk through a worship service, Proverbs 31, and housing challenges.
The book Ethan mentions is Politics of Piety: The Islamic Revival and the Feminist Subject by Saba Mahmood.
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CW: Brief discussion of suicidal ideation between the 30- and 40-minute mark.
In which Jürgen Moltstan joins John Westley and the Dude to discuss WTS's favorite theologian, the joys of learning and sharing systematic theology, and what it means to have hope.
You can find both of Dr. Monica Coleman's books we mention in the episode here: https://monicaacoleman.com/books/
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The What the Hell is a Pastor theme song is written by Jo Schonewolf, performed by Jo Schonewolf (she's so sorry) and Ian Urriola, featuring vocals from Paul Urriola and produced by Paul Urriola.
In which pastor, author, and fellow Wesley grad David Finnegan-Hosey joins Jo and Ian to talk pastoral transitions, campus ministry, mental health, and what the hell a co-minister is, anyway.
Learn more about David's advocacy and books over at https://davidfinneganhosey.com/.
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The What the Hell is a Pastor theme song is written by Jo Schonewolf, performed by Jo Schonewolf (she's so sorry) and Ian Urriola, featuring vocals from Paul Urriola and produced by Paul Urriola.
In which Spanks talks through a theological revelation with the Dude.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk through Ethan's week, weigh the importance of parting gifts, and discuss emotional and mental health, casual sexism, and Mars Hill.
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CW: trauma, sexual violence
In which Spanks and the Dude do a spoiler-heavy walk-through of the themes of the Haunting of Hill House. If you want to listen to our first take, hosted on Reel Christianity, you can find it here: https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/reel-christianity-752485/episodes/season-three-the-haunting-of-h-33530946
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss Afghanistan, among other things.
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In which Humpty Dumpty joins Spanks and the Dude to reflect on all the types of flying animals that can invade our churches.
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In which a friend stops by the podcast to talk about the work of a church administrator, what makes a church good to work for, and why laity should be invited to preach more often, among other endorsements.
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The What the Hell is a Pastor theme song is written by Jo Schonewolf, performed by Jo Schonewolf (she's so sorry) and Ian Urriola, featuring vocals from Paul Urriola and produced by Paul Urriola.
In which Lars joins John Westley and the Dude to talk about everyone's favorite gender-fluid, pan trickster and his television show.
So many spoilers for Loki*
But it's been out for a hot second, friends
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The What the Hell is a Pastor theme song is written by Jo Schonewolf, performed by Jo Schonewolf (she's so sorry) and Ian Urriola, featuring vocals from Paul Urriola and produced by Paul Urriola.
In which everyone's favorite former pastor visits the pod to talk about how life after parish ministry is going, what a day in the life of a friend and neighbor looks like, magic pastors, and how he's not paid to have an opinion anymore.
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The What the Hell is a Pastor theme song is written by Jo Schonewolf, performed by Jo Schonewolf (she's so sorry) and Ian Urriola, featuring vocals from Paul Urriola and produced by Paul Urriola.
In which Spanks and the Dude go to church.
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In which we gather around the table and answer questions from listeners.
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In which Spanks talks through holiness, human need, and Schleiermacher.
In this episode, we shout out Mourner, Mother, Midwife: Reimagining God's Delivering Presence in the Old Testament by L. Juliana M. Claassens by name, as well as Sisters in the Wilderness: The Challenge of Womanist God-Talk by Delores S. Williams.
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Our 200th episode! In which Ethan and Jo talk about anxiety, cognitive dissonance, and the relationship between protesting and spiritual disciplines.
Have any questions for us? Send them in and we'll do our best to answer them on next week's episode!
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CW: traumatic death, accidental death
In which Spanks explains the term "working yourself into a shoot" to the Dude and, in all seriousness, tells the truly tragic story of Owen Hart and relates it all to some GOP strategies these days. It's a heavy one, friends. Listen with care.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk through their weeks, including some reflections on Simone Biles and some... interesting church stories.
We talk about sexual abuse in this episode. If that's not something you need to dig into today, you can skip from 10:33-12:16 and not miss a thing. Take care of yourselves, friends, and someone else, if you can.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss God.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvd3aEsThbc
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In the inaugural episode of Season 3, Jo and Ethan talk about their weeks and think around whether God has a plan for all of this or not.
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In which Cho Chang and Spanks Rebok regale the Dude with the story of a student publication gone wrong, and other stories from seminary.
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AhnnaLise joins Ethan and Jo to talk about the life of an associate pastor, how she landed where she's serving right now, and the importance of the stories we tell about our past.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss Ethan's first Sunday at the new churches, preaching on July 4th, and whether Christians can abnegate their United States citizenship and the responsibilities it bestows.
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In which Spanks tells the story of the time that Ravishing Rick Rude and Mr. Perfect Curt Henning walk into a cop bar.
This episode contains brief mention of death by suicide. Take care of yourselves, friends.
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In which Jo gets a new telescope and Ethan gets a new church.
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In which Spanks and the Dude talk some more about Critical Race Theory, the throughline from the age of colonization to the world of today, and moral challenges to being a citizen of the United States.
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In which friend of the pod, Abbi, joins us to talk about what the hell it is that pastoral counselors do, how white supremacy harms all of us, and the future of mental health in churches.
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In which Spanks and the Dude talk (eventually) about where hope(ish) comes from.
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In which Rabbi Mike joins Jo to discuss what it takes to become a rabbi, psych evals in the ordination process, talking to God, congregational dynamics, and more!
You can find Rabbi Mike on twitter @RabbiHarvey and @JudaismMe, and on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4vNAB0lVE4munW_znGdEtQ.
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In which the Dude explains her new ministry plans to Spanks Rebok, gets some feedback, and share the story of a 1857 book by Philip Gosse, Omphalos: An Attempt to Untie the Geological Knot.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss learning languages, biblical hermeneutics, suspicious preaching, education, and epistemology. It really is quite a journey.
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In which Spanks regales the Dude with stories from the career of pro wrestler Mick Foley.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss when and how to teach about the Trinity.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss the deep wisdom hidden in the Book of Discipline and how there are just some situations in which everyone looks bad.
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In which Quaker Oats joins Spanks and the Dude to talk social media platforms and how we use them.
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In which a friend of the pod comes on to talk about applying for college, surviving COVID high school, and his hopes for Christian community after leaving his small town life.
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In which Spanks regales the Dude with a pro wrestling story for the ages, asides included.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk through theories of religion and Ethan shares stories from ministerium meetings of yore.
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In which Spanks and the Dude talk about the movies that taught them to be weird and love others.
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In Jo gives an update on her pastoral tax situation, her job situation, and drags Ethan into a discourse about starting their own church.
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In which Spanks and the Dude talk about the connection between a pro wrestling construct, evangelicals, and conservatives in the United States, plus a discussion of the joys of Schitt's Creek and the quasi-dystopia that is the emotional intelligence of Daniel Tiger, which you can watch right now, for free, on the PBS kids app!
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In which the duo talk about Mother's Day and Ethan shares some updates.
And hey, whether you have someone who mothered you or whether you mostly mothered yourself and others, whether your mom is here and loving you or whether your mom is somewhere else or not able to love you as well as you deserve, we think you're pretty great. Don't let anyone tell you any different, especially from the pulpit.
And hey, pastors? You're doing the work and we hope that your congregations love you well too.
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In which Pastor Nick joins Ethan to talk about a pastor's social capital, what trust really looks like, and how to leave a ministry that you've outgrown but are still proud of.
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In which Lars visits the pod again to talk pop culture and other sundry items with Spanks while the Dude takes a break.
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It's like in My Favorite Murder, you know? Where they talk and talk about things that have nothing to do with murder, for like 40 minutes? And then people who really care about murder just skip that part? Well, this is all stuff that those people would skip, if those kind of people listened to our podcast. Spanks updates the Dude on some non-political news about politicians, the duo round out their conversation on Captain America and the Winter Soldier, and Young Rock gets another mention on this podcast that's mostly about pro wrestling now, I guess.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk mostly about preaching.
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In which Ian sticks around for a couple extra minutes to chat about Falcon and the Winter Soldier after episode 5. Spoilers spoilers spoilers, but stick around for a post-credits treat!
We also strongly recommend listening to What Would Peggy Carter Do? by Kate Nyx.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss Joerg Rieger's No Religion But Social Religion.
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In which Ian again joins Ethan and Jo to discuss a recent Judicial Council announcement.
Here's the post that spurred our conversation: https://www.facebook.com/umcbishops/posts/1126963891119043
And here's Rev. Jeremy Smith's thread on the WCA's GMC meeting: https://twitter.com/umjeremy/status/1383440552276860929
You should definitely be following him on Twitter, if you aren't already.
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...yeah, turns out this whole church thing isn't about any of that at all. Ian joins Ethan and Jo to talk about what reforming the UMC might look like if the church, you know, did its damn job.
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In which Spanks and the Dude discuss Charisma and the Fictions of Black Leadership by Erica R. Edwards. Other books to add to your reading list include:
Black Empire by George S. Schuyler
Paradise by Toni Morrison
The White Boy Shuffle by Paul Beatty
and of course, Moses, Man of the Mountain by Zora Neale Hurston
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In which Ethan and Jo clarify their hopes for LMX, think through activism, ministry, and PhD life, and have a short but meaningful discussion about Falcon and the Winter Soldiers, with maybe some spoilers?
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In which Spanks and the Dude revisit the rapture, talk about narrative, and what life might be like if COVID had never happened.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about some minor ordination envy, what Methodist Liberation theology looks like, and why you should really consider joining your local community theater group.
Some reading suggestions:
- NO RELIGION BUT SOCIAL RELIGION: LIBERATING WESLEYAN THEOLOGY by Joerg Rieger With Contributions by Paulo Ayres Mattos, Helmut Renders, and José Carlos de Souza
- The Man Jesus Loved by Ted Jennings
- Sanctification & Liberation: Liberation Theologies in Light of the Wesleyan Tradition by Theodore Runyon
- Doing Theology in a Revolutionary Situation by José Míguez Bonino, and
- Faith Born in the Struggle for Life: A Rereading of Protestant Faith in Latin America Today
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In which Spanks tells the devastating story of the Von Erich family of pro wrestlers and the duo discuss toxic masculinity and pro wrestling. Please, please, please, if suicidal thoughts are a part of your life, be careful when listening to this episode. Know that you're loved, even if it doesn't feel like it, and reach out. https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
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In which, among other things, Jo talks about her absurd potential tax bill and Ethan gushes about Young Rock on NBC (seriously, guys, give us a sponsorship, we'll absolutely gush.)
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In this special bonus episode, Corey, Ethan, and Jo revive Reel Christianity, their movie review podcast, to tackle 1972's A Thief in the Night. The movie was... awful, but it gives us the opportunity to talk about horror movies, conspiracy theories, and how Evangelical thinking about the end times hasn't really changed in fifty years.
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In which Charles Wesley's Process Stepchild and Spanks Rebok talk through who is actually the sovereign in this bananas time in United Methodist history.
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In which Ian joins Jo to give an update to last episode. Spoiler alert: it's not great.
Anyway, J.J.'s book is called Reclaiming Church and the audiobook is available tomorrow! Pre-order here.
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In which J.J. and Tom join us for a conversation about the status of 20202 lay delegates to the General Conference commissioned for ministry. It's a doozy.
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In which Spanks regales The Dude with a fascinating pro-wrestling story.
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CW: brief discussion of sexual violence
In which Ethan and Jo talk about what Ethan's reading in class, including some history on the religion of enslaved people in the United States and the writing of Sylvia Wynter.
Jo shouts out Sister Outsider by Audre Lorde (which would have been really important to bring into this conversation, if she had tried) and The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin. She also shouts out this episode of the The Wintering Sessions with Katherine May.
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In a preview of future patreon-only content, Ian and Jo discuss the reality of Bigfoot.
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SO MANY WANDAVISION SPOILERS
In which Ethan and Jo talk through two recent pop culture experiences.
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In which Spanks Rebok and the Dude are joined by Generic White Woman #3 to tell stories of church homecomings, technology, and more.
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In which Kate joins Jo and Ethan to talk about the challenges of being a pastor who is also a parent of young children, along with some good old fashioned hopes and frustrations about ministry and the church.
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In a delightfully theological conversation, Spanks Rebok and the Dude try to suss out why God created the universe and what we should do with that information, anyway.
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In which Jo cries and Ethan helps.
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In which Spanks Rebok is joined by John Westley and Balaam's Donkey to discuss the joys and travails of working with the youths.
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In which Ian and Patrick join Ethan to talk about managing ideological differences in rural settings.
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In which Spanks Rebok and the Dude discuss how we deal with incomprehensibility in this world.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about death, mourning, and the pastors they needed.
Book Ethan mentioned in this episode: We Built Reality by Jason Blakely
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In which Spanks Rebok and Jorbatroth discuss everyone's favorite new Star Wars series, with pretty substantial spoilers.
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In which Ian joins Jo and Ethan to talk through their political histories, the boundaries around coming alongside others, and what Christians are responsible for in liberal democracies. Also, butts.
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In which Spanks Rebok and the Dude gush about how much they love Bob's Burgers.
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In which Ashley joins Ethan and Jo to talk through a few pastoral run-ins and why coming together doesn't necessarily mean coming to the middle.
Book recc from Ethan this episode: Models of the Church by Avery Dulles
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In which Spanks Rebok and the Dude do their best to figure out what the hell it is that pastors do.
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Ethan's mom visits the pod to talk about non-profits, ministry, and doing what Christ calls us to do. If you want to support the work Friends and Neighbors is doing, you can donate to them here: https://friendsandneighborsofpa.org/donate/.
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In which Curly Rural joins Spanx Rebok and the Dude to finish their conversation on rural ministry, this time with more candidness.
Book mentions in this episode:
The Mission of God's People: A Biblical Theology of the Church's Mission by Christopher J. H. Wright
Incarnational Ministry and Incarnational Mission, both of which can be found here, by Samuel Wells
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Heather joins Ethan and Jo to continue their rural ministry conversation, but this time with more research!
Book recommendations from Heather:
Effective Small Churches in the Twenty-first Century by Carl S. Dudley
Celebrating the Small Church: Harnessing the strength of the small church by Martin Robinson and Dan Yarnell
A Big Gospel in Small Places: Why Ministry in Forgotten Communities Matters by by Stephen Witmer
Congregation: Stories and Structures by James F. Hopewell
Preaching as Local Theology and Folk Art by Leonora Tubbs Tisdale
The Invisible Church: Learning from the Experiences of Churchless Christians by Steve Aisthorpe
Rewilding the Church by Steve Aisthorpe
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In which the duo give you about 20 minutes of reflection on yesterday's coup attempt and lead you into today's minisode, recorded in the sunnier days of last week, talking about the Twisted Tea video (which has since been taken down for violating YouTube's policies about depicting graphic content) and the famous Wrestling Isn't Wrestling video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYvMOf3hsGA
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In which Ethan and Jo run through some quick updates before getting caught up in a hard conversation about rural ministry.
Here's the NPR article in question: https://www.npr.org/2020/12/28/950861977/toxic-individualism-pandemic-politics-driving-health-care-workers-from-small-tow
And here's the counter-post we talk through in the episode: https://www.facebook.com/j.lemastersmith/posts/10223432582540901
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In which Jory visits the pod to chat with Ethan about pastoring and ministry in the time of COVID. Shout out to Confronting Xian Culture for lending us their host for a day. Follow them here: https://anchor.fm/confrontingxianculture
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In which Spanx Rebok regales the Dude with legends and lore from professional wrestling. Y'all, it's so good.
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That's the word Jo was thinking of.
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In which Blinded by the White joins Spanx and the Dude to talk images of Jesus and more.
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In which Michelle joins Ethan and Jo to talk about the road bumps on the way to ordination, her complicated journey as a candidate, and the challenges of being an Indigenous woman navigating a system made for white men.
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What the Hell is a Pastor is here for all your niche PhD conversation needs! Get ready for some big ideas and a lot of name dropping, wrapped up in a 15-minute package.
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Charles Wesley's Process Stepchild joins Spanks and the Dude to talk about who can come to the table and what ordination has to do with all this.
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In which Tom joins Ethan and Jo to talk about communion, Welch's, and how the food we eat relates to the meal we share with Jesus.
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Doc Meatus joins Spanks Rebok and the Dude to talk about what makes Christian art good.
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Ethan talks through some of the work he's doing, with a few stories from Jo peppered in.
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The duo take on some questions from listeners.
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CJ joins Jo and Ethan to talk Bob Jones, Liberty, and other horror stories.
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In which Ethan, Jo, and Ian stick around for a little bit after recording to talk about a really helpful football analogy that requires little to no knowledge of football to understand.
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Join Spanks Rebok, the Dude, and John Westley as they discuss process theology and why it appeals.
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When you die, the surface of the Moon will not change. You are so insignificant. Enjoy!
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In which Jo finally explains the Sinner's Prayer.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about freedom and how to find it.
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"Listen, I don't want to talk about the election..."
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In which Jo and Ethan have a discussion about the merits of dystopian movies, but miss the important fact that the first Hunger Games movie was filmed right outside Jo's hometown (the District 12 scenes, that is).
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In which Ethan and Jo talk some more about the sovereign and why Jo's struggling in her context.
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In which Pastor Nick and Ethan talk about upcoming changes at Nick's church.
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In which the duo discuss the benefits and challenges of sticking around for the long haul.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss Willie James Jennings' Christian Imagination and try to figure out what the hell a spiritual director is.
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Massive spoilers for The Haunting of Bly Manor
In which Ethan and Jo discuss the latest installment in the Haunting anthology.
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In which Jo and Ethan talk about death. Spoilers for The Haunting of Bly Manor
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In which, after a brief conversation about what Ethan's reading, the duo chat about funerals and why they're so important to small town ministry.
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In which Ethan, Jo, and Ian talk about what Ethan is reading and get into some deep depths.
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In which Ian, Ethan, and Jo share their stories of how they decided to go to seminary and how they ended up at Wesley.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk for longer than the length of a usual episode about what Ethan is reading and how he's agitating Calvinists.
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In which the duo mostly talk about what's going on at one of Jo's churches.
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In which Ethan and Nick continue their conversation, which takes a hard left turn two-thirds through.
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In which Pastor Nick joins Ethan to talk about what Ethan is learning and to hash out how they really feel about Paul Tillich.
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In which Pastor Nick joins Ethan to talk about how liberals are our own worst enemy and how The Lord of the Rings might be improved.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about Walter Benjamin and why talking about activism in Jo's church is difficult, especially now.
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In which Ethan, Jo, and Ian continue their live conversation about cults, but with more hell this time!
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In which Ethan, Jo, and Ian have a great live talk about what makes something a cult and why we should call them new religious movements instead before the sounds cuts out.
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In which Ethan, Jo, and Ian are in the same room, talking about world religions, interfaith events, spooky philosophy, and the lie at the heart of most things.
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In which Ethan and Jo complain about things.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about embarrassing academic moments, finding ways to build resiliency, Georgia Harkness, and more.
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In which Jo asks Ethan an important question.
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In which Ethan and Jo discuss some of what Ethan's been learning, Jo brings some science and religion into it, and then gives you advice on how to avoid some basic pastoral mistakes.
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In case the title doesn't give it away, we talk through some shit in this episode. Enjoy!
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In which Ethan shares a 5-minute story about baby Pastor Barth, who, turns out, was much more relatable than anticipated.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk through a case study in saying the wrong thing.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about the DNC on the next-to-last day of the convention.
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In which Liam describes his D&D, sorry, TTRPG, ministry and Jo and Ethan share stories about how obnoxious they are to play roleplaying games with.
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In which Jo describes a visitor at the church she had a little while ago and the crew reacts.
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In which Liam joins Jo and Ethan to talk about being an associate, church structure, and the struggle of loudly supporting Black lives in a church during these heavy days.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about Ethan's upcoming semester.
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In which Ethan and Jo reflect on a year of podcasting and how no matter how much things change, they remain the same.
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In which Jo, Ian, Ethan, and Edrea sit down to shoot the breeze before recording our episode with Dr. Robyn and learn some very crucial information about balance beams.
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It's a lifelong process.
Listen in as Dr. Robyn joins Ian, Ethan, and Jo to talk about the power of story, the necessity of reviving our imaginations, and more. And when you're done here, jump over to the Activist Theology podcast for more conversations with Dr. Robyn!
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Rick joins Ethan and Jo again to discuss whether the individual exists or not and what that means for how we live with one another.
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In this, our 50th episode, Ethan and Jo are joined by Rick to talk about becoming a professor of Christians Ethics and Theology, how COVID has affected his vocation, and other sundry things.
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In which Jo and Ethan shoot the breeze about "culture wars," anti-racist protests, therapy, repressed memories, and whose responsible for reconciliation within the body of Christ. You know, casual pastor stuff.
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Come hear Ethan, Corey, and Jo talk about the man who exorcised Nixon.
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In which Jo and Ethan talk about their weeks, what Ethan's reading, and Jo's struggle with to square community activism with pastoring.
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In which Ethan and Jo get into an old-fashioned theological discussion about everyone's favorite sacrament.
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In which Ian joins Jo and Ethan to talk about Hamilton.
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In which Pastor Corey joins Ethan and Jo to talk about his ministry and the challenges of rejecting American civil religion.
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In which Ethan, Nick, and Jo continue their conversation about the role of pastors in the community and tack on a discussion about ordination in the UMC.
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In which friend of the pod, Pastor Nick, joins Ethan and Jo to talk about his life as a pastor and the struggle of white pastors trying to help white congregations deal talk about race.
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In which the duo talk about what they're reading: God's County, Native by Kaitlin B. Curtice, White Fragility, American Prophets by Jack Jenkins, Letter to My Daughter by Maya Angelou, The Book of Longings, The Problem With Grace and Religion of the Field Negro by Vincent Llyod, American Nations, The Adept Church by F. Douglas Powe, and Grace is a Pre-existing Condition by David Finnegan-Hosey. We also recommend that you check out the works of Howard Thurman and My People is the Enemy by William Stringfellow.
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In which Ethan tells a story about moving and Jo gives updates on her new church.
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In which Ethan and Jo think through the mistake a white evangelical made.
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And here's the apology, also for the curious: https://twitter.com/louiegiglio/status/1272960621869518850
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In which Ian joins to restate his hypothetical.
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In which Ethan and Jo shoot the breeze about evangelicalism and Queer Eye, Jo tells a story and gives an update from the Resistance, and the duo begin the discussion of a hypothetical situation from Ian.
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Listen, all your faves are problematic.
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Buckle up, everyone.
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In which Ethan and Jo (but mostly Ethan) reminisce about Christian mosh pits.
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In which Jo describes her week, but mostly her yesterday, and she and Ethan pick apart a tweet. Be proud of us. We didn't do any of this on Twitter.
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In which Jo and Ethan talk about the particular verbal and mental habits they picked up at seminary that don't always serve them well in the real world.
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In which Ethan and Jo deal with the fallout from the president's order for churches to reopen.
In the podcast, Ethan recommends reading some Vincent Lloyd, Jo talks about the origins of the Religious Right, recommends Jack Jenkins' new book on the Religious Left, American Prophets (you can join her book club if you want!), and references this article by Christian Socialists.
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In which Steve joins Ethan and Jo to talk theology, contemplation, and everything that intersects with it. Steve namedrops Silence: A User's Guide and Jo references The Lobster.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk their way through their understandings of the first person of the Trinity.
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In which Jo takes a sick day and Ian and Ethan talk through their weeks, their ordination plans, and what they'd change about the UMC (besides the obvious).
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In which Jo puts forward an understanding of God and gender and Ethan disagrees. Part 2 of 2.
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In which Ethan and Jo wander through their weeks and end up discussing how Ethan is preparing for a transition. Plus, sneezes.
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In which Jo puts forward an understanding of God and gender and Ethan disagrees. Part 1 of 2.
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In which Ethan and Jo share some news.
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In which Ethan and Jo begin by talking about their weeks and end up, as they inevitably do, talking about death.
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In which Jo gets her science on and Ethan counters with plenty of theology. #nerdalert
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about the pneumatology.
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In which Ethan and Jo continue their conversation about grad school, appointments, and why the UMC needs young pastors.
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In which Ethan and Jo talk about their weeks, about reconciliation, and about what their dream careers are.
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In which Jo and Ethan nerd out over Tolkien's overarching storytelling and thoughts about redemption. #spoilers
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In which Ethan and Jo intend to record a minisode about Christology, but end up running long.
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In which Ethan and Jo mostly talk about their weeks and chat about life these days, with some stories (poor Phil!) and some theological insights.
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In with Ian joins us to tell us how a predecessor body to the United Methodist Church kicked off aviation in the United States.
In which Ethan, Ian, and Jo, after having recorded the Protocol episode, talk about their time in seminary, include a quick interlude into some Bonhoeffer theology. Feel free to skip this one if you don't want to just hear three friends shooting the breeze about times gone by.
In which Ethan and Jo have an extended chat about their weeks, bleep out a story, and talk about their homiletical theology and how they really feel about preaching.
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In which Jo lets Ethan explain Divine Simplicity, and Ethan namedrops Dionysius the Areopagite and The Divine Names a bunch.
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In which Ethan and Jo share what is bringing them joy during COVID-19 social distancing, discuss how they're handling worship these days, and talk about money, being liberals, coronavirus jokes, and the nature of apocalypses.
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In which Ethan and Jo round out their conversation about the Bible by discussing how Christians can remain faithful to their convictions in an interfaith world.
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In which Ian joins Ethan and Jo to discuss what the General Conference might do now that they've had to delay this year's General Conference, which had been scheduled for May, and then laugh a lot together.
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In this episode, you will hear the voices of people who lived in another time, a distant time, a quainter time: last Thursday. Think of it as a time capsule. Ethan and Jo share their thoughts, frustrations, and aspirations for life in the time of COVID-19.
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In which Ethan and Jo continue their discussion about the Bible, wrestle with truth claims, and breathe a sigh of relief (which is only momentary-- there's another minisode to come out of this conversation).
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In which Jo and Ethan talk through their weeks and cover some difficult ground about oppression, harm, and safety in churches.
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In which Jo and Ethan discuss the difficulties of being pastors who fuck up, like, a lot. Or at least, so their brains tell them.
The piece of writing that Jo was stretching for that inspired John Wesley's strangely warmed heart is the Preface to Romans by Martin Luther. You can read it for yourself and see if it sparks a fire in your heart: https://ccel.org/l/luther/romans/pref_romans.html
In which Ethan and Jo talk about all the nuanced problems with Christianity and money. The books Ethan and Jo recommend are Christianity and the New Spirit of Capitalism by Kathyrn Tanner, Being Consumed by William Cavanaugh, and On Social Justice: St. Basil the Great from the Popular Patristics series.
In which Ethan and Jo, after some substantial internet difficulties, settle in to talk about their weeks, about Wesley's three simple rules, and the practicality of transcendentals.
In which we include a discussion that didn't make it into the full episode on purity culture, plus some post-recording discussion. Content warning: we joke a lot about sex but also have a serious discussion about masturbation, porn, and what it means to view yourself as a person worthy of good sexual attention. If those topics don't put you in a healthy headspace, feel free to skip. You are a beautiful, valuable, worthy person who is loved and capable of loving.
As always, The Liturgists have had a longer and better produced episode on porn, which is worth a listen: https://theliturgists.com/podcast/2019/10/3/porn
And for a good deep dive into a modern Christian sexual ethic that first does no harm, check out Just Love by Margaret Farley: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/623342.Just_Love
'Tis the season of Saint Valentine, listeners, which means an episode about purity culture!
Content warning: we do talk about sex. And make sex jokes. Because in the face of an oppressive paradigm, you gotta laugh a little.
You can find The Liturgists' episode about purity culture here: https://theliturgists.com/podcast/2020/1/23/am-i-impure
You can find You are Your Own by Jamie Lee Finch here: https://jamieleefinch.com/you-are-your-own
You can read more about Shameless here: https://www.npr.org/2019/01/13/684505811/pastor-nadia-bolz-weber-gets-shameless-about-sex
In with Ethan and Jo talk about their understandings of worship and also their code names for minisodes. It's a delight.
In which Jo and Ethan meander through their weeks and find themselves in a discussion about Wesley, worship, and the United Methodist Church.
In which Ethan and Jo talk about whether God suffers, process theism, and liberation theology.
In which Jo and Ethan talk about their relationships with nearby pastors. Also, Jo shares a story about dogs and we again discuss the culture of the UMC. The dog story is more fun.
In which Ethan and Jo discuss what it means to call someone evil and how complicated the idea can be. A warning for our listeners who might not need to hear about suicide or homophobia right now, this episode gets into those topics. Feel free to come back when you're ready (or just listen to the first 15 minutes and then peace out).
Editor's note: M Barclay's prounouns are they/them and we apologize for using incorrect pronouns for them.
In which Ethan and Jo discuss their weeks, which both involved administrative council meetings and other interactions with congregants.
Correction corner: The Bonhoeffer essay that Ethan references towards the end of the podcast is The Church and the Jewish Question, not The Church and the Jewish Problem as Jo guessed. PDFs are out there for those who don't want to buy a collection of Bonhoeffer's works.
In which Ian joins Ethan and Jo to continue their conversations about the Protocol. Check out The Protocol, Part 1, if you haven't already!
In which Ethan and Jo start by talking about their weeks, but are quickly taken in by a discussion about the Protocol of Reconciliation and Grace through Separation (you can see a quick and dirty infographic about it that Jo helped create here). Things get heated and we earn our E for Explicit rating.
In which Ethan and Jo talk about the Christmas season, their resolutions for the New Year, and the pitfalls of dealing with past congregational trauma.
In which Ethan and Jo discuss yearly Christmas pageants and how to decide whether a ministry is vital or not.
In this week after yet another anti-Semitic attack has ravaged our Jewish siblings, we'd like to supplement our Anti-Semitism Warning with a twitter thread by the Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg: https://twitter.com/TheRaDR/status/1211624621591666689?s=20. Give her a follow on the social media platform of your choice to learn and grow and join us in the on-going fight against prejudice against Jewish people in our current political climate.
Come for the Guy Fieri story, stay for the twitter recs.
Jo is @aj_schwlf, Ethan is @PastorEShearer, and the podcast is @wthisapastor. Check out who we're following for our recommendations.
Here's the article that Ethan is referencing at the beginning. It's worth the read.
https://catapult.co/stories/love-peace-and-taco-grease-how-i-left-my-abusive-husband-and-found-guy-fieri-by-rax-king
Settle in, friends. In this episode, Ethan and Jo talk about their weeks (weddings galore!) and then get into it, taking some theological side roads in order to land on the minefield that is a pastor's mental health. Listen, if it wasn't important, we wouldn't give our time and attention to it. As you listen to this, again, longer-than-usual episode, see if you can find the one grammatical mistake that was so glaring, Jo almost corrected it with a voiceover.
In which Ethan and Jo have a longer-than-usual conversation from the long-distant days of November about why Ethan thinks being a pastor is first and foremost a job and what it means to worship and tend to our spiritual selves.
In which Ethan, Jo, and special guest Ian discuss Romans, blog posts, boundaries, and their favorite sweaty seminary professor, with a touch of anti-capitalism thrown in for spice.
In which Ethan and Jo talk about running for office, what they would change about their churches (which they love!) if they could, and what keeps them hopeful in this season of doubt and distress in the United Methodist Church.
In which Jo and Ethan talk about paperwork and translating their thoughts into the language that Boomers understand, with a guest appearance by Ethel at the end.
A special mini-sode in which Ethan and Jo dig into the incarnation, biblical interpretation, David Bentley Hart, and how the internet impacts our ministry.
If you've ever wondered what it would be like to grab a drink with our hosts, this conversation is almost nearly it. Ethan and Jo get a running start by talking about how we interact with our siblings in Christ in different international contexts, which somehow morphs into a discussion about movies and postmodernism, and we promise, we cut out a solid 30 minutes of pastoral phone calls and surprise visits and theological asides to meet the time limit.
After an extended season of dealing with conflict in their individual churches, Jo and Ethan get together to talk about the types of conflict they struggle with, their experience as younger people dealing with older churches in conflict, how they manage conflict, and what keeps them in the faith with all these frustrations swirling around them.
In which Ethan and Jo talk about paid time off, taking care of ourselves while dealing with heavy emotions, why theology matters, and why if you're an older Methodist, you're probably a Boston Personalist without evening knowing it.
In which Ethan and Jo have a long wide-ranging conversation that covers pastoral health, district gatherings and paperwork, hospital visits, google maps, library cards, trinitarian ontology, and many hypotheses about why we struggle so hard with evangelicalism, among other things. There are jokes in it too, we promise.
In this episode, Ethan and Jo discuss flirting with universal salvation, God's justice, and why hell is maybeprobablykinda a thing. You know, the things you expect pastors to talk about.
After an extended introduction about what a day Ethan has had, Ethan and Jo talk about the pastor as caretaker while also discussing the challenges of maintaining some semblance of mental health while wrestling with the ordination process in a denomination that's struggling to understand itself. No bats were harmed in the recording of this episode.
Jo and Ethan sit down to talk about "improvements" to their doors and security system and investigate the importance of the church building to those who have worshipped there for decades.
This week, Jo and Ethan talk about the challenges of congregational ministry when it appears to conflict with important relationships in their lives. Don't worry, boundaries are discussed.
Ethan name-drops God, Sexuality, and the Self by Sarah Coakley. Check it out for a theological exploration of how our sexual relationships can inform our understanding of and interaction with God.
In this inaugural episode, Jo and Ethan talk about their weeks, about their typical and not-so-typical duties as pastors, and dig into the pastors they've had and how pastoral interactions in the past shaped their ministry today.