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This week, I sit down with Ron Baker, author of Bright Lights, Big Empty.

When I first accepted Ron onto the Zoom call for this episode, I was blown away by how extraordinary youthful Ron looked for a man in his early sixties.

Ron is a man who has very visibly done The Work. I was also profoundly moved by how loving, and present Rob is. The conversation stretched me in many ways.

We talk:

• Walking away from a career in the performing arts
• Building his School of Self-Mastery
• How his business partner became a channel for Gabriel
• Scanning our past for trauma and the good
• How the split we're seeing in society right now was expected

We go all the way out there with this one, and it's well worth the ride!

Links: Ron's Website Bright Lights, Big Empty - The Book