Season 02, Episode 12 Co-Hosts: Nadine Vogel & Norma Stanley Guest: DJ Hear No Evil

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Voiceover: Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the disabled lives matter podcast. Let's welcome co-hosts Nadine Vogel and Norma Stanley.

Nadine Vogel: Hello everyone and welcome to tonight's episode of disabled lives matter. Yes, this is a podcast but it's more than a podcast You all know the answer it's a movement, and I am joined tonight by my fabulous co-host Norma Stanley hey Norma.

Norma: hey how is everybody doing today.

Nadine Vogel: Good i'm doing really great knowing who we are interviewing tonight, DJ Hear No Evil. Well I just love the name just to. start.

Nadine Vogel: So Norma why don't you take us away.

Norma: Well I’m excited that we do have Mr. Anton DJ Hear No Evil Abraham, also known as the Silent Assassin, which we got to know what that came from.

Norma: He is a deaf DJ, who is here to breakdown some barriers and take the music industry by storm and I am loving every moment of that so I can’t wait for you to share what your life story is all about, thank you for being on Disabled Lives Matter today.

DJ Hear No Evil: yeah, thank you for having me. I am pleased that you guys invited me to tell.

DJ Hear No Evil: my story.

Norma: Absolutely absolutely well you know in reading your bio I have to say that we have something in common.

Norma: We’re both from Mount Vernon New York.

Norma: I grew up in Mount Vernon too. I actually moved there when I was 16 so I lived on North Lincoln Avenue I don't know if you know what that is.

DJ Hear No Evil: yeah I know. Yeah.

DJ Hear No Evil: yeah that’s where I lived most of my life in Westchester county.

Norma: Yes, yes, yes.

Norma: And you know they refer to Mount Vernon as Money Earnin’ Mount Vernon because so many celebrities have come out of Mount Vernon and you know people like Denzel Washington Sidney Poitier used to live there Ruby Dee live there.

Norma: And Heavy D. the rapper.

Norma: grew up there, my sister actually went to school with him so many, many um what’s his name, Al B. Sure came from Mount Vernon.

Norma: Yes, yes.

Norma: So I wanted to be one of those people one day, but nobody knows who I am but.

Norma: I love the idea that grew up in Mount Vernon with all those money earning people.

DJ Hear No Evil: That’s right. We have to represent our hometown you know.

Norma: You Mary J Blige is not from Mount Vernon, but she was from Yonkers.

Norma: It’s still Westchester county.

DJ Hear No Evil: yeah yeah, you can say that.

Nadine Vogel: Pressure, a lot of pressure on you.

Nadine Vogel: Just saying.

Norma: It’s a lot. Well, you know I’m so excited to learn about your story you.

Norma: have done a lot in your career and in starting your brand as DJ Hear No Evil, first of all, how did you come across the name and how did you even get started in the DJ space.

DJ Hear No Evil: Okay, so DJ Hear No Evil was given by my fraternity, Alpha Phi Alpha

DJ Hear No Evil: Fraternity incorporated, which I pledged during college.

DJ Hear No Evil: So they gave me the name Hear No Evil.

DJ Hear No Evil: So I took that name, Hear No Evil as it represents who I am, i'm hard of hearing myself even though I could say I’m deaf.

DJ Hear No Evil: I am hard of hearing in a deaf world and hearing world which I am in both worlds. So.

DJ Hear No Evil: I represent both. The old DJ name was DJ Ant, A-TON-Ant, and my father was like what are you going to do with that name.

DJ Hear No Evil: I like that name, but that’s my government name, and I don’t want to use my government name.

DJ Hear No Evil: So as it, as time goes on, it was given to me by my fraternity, it represents who I am.

Norma: awesome.

Norma: awesome and so tell us you know.

Norma: Since you started this game, first of all, how did you get into the DJ space.

Norma: How did that begin.

DJ Hear No Evil: Oh.

DJ Hear No Evil: I started picking up the DJ-ing.

DJ Hear No Evil: At the age of thirteen.

DJ Hear No Evil: Because my father was a DJ himself.

DJ Hear No Evil: He was a DJ, he was a basketball player, he did a lot of stuff so I got into the DJ game because my dad would DJ events like a club, bar so forth, so I had to go with him to see what he does.

Norma: Okay.

DJ Hear No Evil: Or how he rocked the party, how he was meeting people, you know how did he was able to get more gigs. In the local area and also outside Mount Vernon.

DJ Hear No Evil: You know, like in different states, so I’ve tried to pick it up from there since the age of thirteen so as time went on I practiced and started to have my own parties, and then had my own parties in college.

DJ Hear No Evil: My first freshman year. Yeah, it was my freshman year.

DJ Hear No Evil: Where I threw my own party at someone at the apartment, it was late, you know.

DJ Hear No Evil: and the cops had come.

DJ Hear No Evil: I’m sure you know at a party.

DJ Hear No Evil: You know how that goes.

DJ Hear No Evil: So yeah that’s how I picked it up from my father.

Norma: Awesome. So it's a family business in a way.

DJ Hear No Evil: Yeah, basically.

Norma: That’s really cool and so, you said that your bio talks about you, using your hands to express yourself how do you say how does that work, because DJ-ing is an art.

DJ Hear No Evil: Um yes. I mean the movement is art.

DJ Hear No Evil: It’s a form of expression the way you can express yourself.

DJ Hear No Evil: It’s about how you rap, think about the night.

DJ Hear No Evil: the background or, whatever the case, might be, so that same concept, I let my hands speak.

DJ Hear No Evil: Because I don’t always speak on the microphone, I use my hands. So that tells the story.

Norma: Okay. Okay.

Norma: That's pretty cool so is that particular genre of music that gets you more excited than other types of music or is you just like whatever is out there.

DJ Hear No Evil: Well, I’m more into like hip hop.

DJ Hear No Evil: Yeah I pick up on the music of my family background my mother is Jamaican, and my father is Dominican.

DJ Hear No Evil: We do have some Hispanic family. some hip hop family and some you know, Jamaican family so I started picking up the different music and genres, I have to play different music and genres, because we need to be diversified.

DJ Hear No Evil: Like I mean if we go to a party, and nothing against, but if someone were to hire you to do a Bar Mitzvah.

DJ Hear No Evil: Nobody’s doing hip hop too much, but mix the music with pop music or rock-n-roll. So you have to have that in the folder.

DJ Hear No Evil: Basically what I’m trying to say is that we have to be ready whatever the matter. Yeah.

Norma: awesome, awesome.

Nadine Vogel: I have a question um my understanding is that you have won some DJ battles, I think, actually you've won two of them right, I think you the first Black Deaf hard of hearing DJ to win these battles which.

Nadine Vogel: sounds amazing.

Nadine Vogel: Maybe you could tell us what is a DJ battle.

DJ Hear No Evil: Okay, so.

DJ Hear No Evil: Those who are diversified battle about it. Basically what I did was get another DJ, with a regular turntable like this.

DJ Hear No Evil: Yeah I’m sure you’ve seen some movie called Juice.

DJ Hear No Evil: About a DJ battle, where they go back and forth.

DJ Hear No Evil: With the tricks.

DJ Hear No Evil: You know with the name calling or whatever is done going back and forth.

DJ Hear No Evil: Same concept.

DJ Hear No Evil: Same concept, so I battle against so my both battles were with about 20 DJs.

DJ Hear No Evil: 20 DJs, so I mean look at look it was pressure yes, but everyone knew I was nervous, but at the same time I still have the confidence.

DJ Hear No Evil: I had the confidence and was going on, and then you know like the rocket you know of 20 DJs, you know 10-9-8 whatever the bracket set and it came to the final.

DJ Hear No Evil: Later to find out that I couldn’t believe I made it to the final.

DJ Hear No Evil: I didn’t think, I didn’t think I was going to win.

DJ Hear No Evil: Because I wasn’t sure of myself. So time goes on.

DJ Hear No Evil: I went to work in.

DJ Hear No Evil: Brooklyn.

DJ Hear No Evil: Which is in New York City.

Nadine Vogel: Yes. Brooklyn.

DJ Hear No Evil: I had to battle against a DJ from North Carolina.

Norma: Okay.

DJ Hear No Evil: So.

DJ Hear No Evil: He had made it to the final to battle against me. So I said okay. He’s from North Carolina and I’m from New York City.

DJ Hear No Evil: So I have to represent.

DJ Hear No Evil: New York City. And Mount Vernon I have to. So I was going in, it was hard. It was hard..

DJ Hear No Evil: Until you get to the final round.

DJ Hear No Evil: And then, I didn’t even practice that part, I figured it would come out of my head, because I play the music in my head. You know what I’m going to do this, I’m going to play the music in my head. So I said, okay. and then I’ll put it in order with my remix and with some tricks.

DJ Hear No Evil: And got the people to go crazy because it just happens even though my mind was locked up.

DJ Hear No Evil: But I was going in and then you know from then I rocked. It was an amazing feeling, amazing feeling.

Norma: I’m sure.

DJ Hear No Evil: And then the second battle.

DJ Hear No Evil: It was in New York City as well.

DJ Hear No Evil: but it was a good battle and captured the W.

DJ Hear No Evil: But then it was a little different because it was more party rocking. So it’s a little different. So same situations with the countdown.

DJ Hear No Evil: I wind up out of it. I did improve by the two DJ battles, but I did not win. I came in like in fourth place, and then in 10th place. Because I kept going. I kept going until I won.

DJ Hear No Evil: Am I satisfied, no I am not satisfied, I want to win some more.

DJ Hear No Evil: So the reason I want to win some more is I want to try to break the barriers. So people like me the deaf and hard of hearing can do anything. I’m not talking about to DJ, but in general.

DJ Hear No Evil: Like to dance. A lawyer, business.

DJ Hear No Evil: You know TV acting, TV shows, movies, all that. So we have to break the barriers so that people can use us and we can work together.

DJ Hear No Evil: If that makes sense to you.

Norma: Awesome, awesome, and so I would like to know.

Norma: See one of my questions is um.

Norma: The obstacles obviously you had to deal with is that you are hard of hearing what kind of obstacles, did you have to overcome, to be able to get to where you are now you know after you won some of those battles.

Norma: You know now you’re a professional at it what kind of obstacles, did you meet as you were climbing the ladder.

DJ Hear No Evil: Well I would say the top two.

DJ Hear No Evil: One is communication. That’s number one, that’s very, I mean that’s where we had an issue with it, I mean it’s been going on for years. For years.

DJ Hear No Evil: And number two is my ear, so I don't hear everything so that’s why I have to use my eyes.

DJ Hear No Evil: So to communicate. So if I communicate with you I used them to read lips. I can here too, but I can read lips.

DJ Hear No Evil: So I can make sure it fits what I think is what you are saying.

DJ Hear No Evil: So those are my top two I’m facing right now.

DJ Hear No Evil: So people are thinking, oh he’s deaf so put him to the side.

DJ Hear No Evil: No I’m ready to work.

DJ Hear No Evil: You know because I mean I have, I have been I’ve the mindset I'm intelligent, so use me. because I can make you money you can make me money so let’s do it.

DJ Hear No Evil: So that’s one of my top two strategies I’m breaking through right now.

Nadine Vogel: Yeah it is it you know it's in many ways it's not your barrier right it's the barrier of others, there are barriers of thought they can't get past because they know someone has a disability right they make X assumptions and they just can't get past that but, but you doing what you do.

Nadine Vogel: You force them to get past it.

Nadine Vogel: You force them to see beyond disability and I think that's what everybody needs.

DJ Hear No Evil: Right. Most definitely most definitely because we.

DJ Hear No Evil: all have different strategies, so we have to break the barrier, I mean it’s 2022 it’s not like it’s 1960s where Martin Luther King has to fight for our rights, now people want to put their news.

DJ Hear No Evil: in the digital age, because the news and social media is powerful. So work with us, we know what you are doing.

DJ Hear No Evil: You know we’re not that dumb. You know.

Norma: Awesome so tell us. Who are.

Norma: Some of your favorite artists that you like to play, because obviously you do world music.

Norma: Because like you say coming from the Caribbean and the Hispanic community and the Latino community and so there's a lot of different types of music that you probably play, but who are some of your artists that you kind of prefer to to play when you're doing your DJ-ing.

DJ Hear No Evil: So.

DJ Hear No Evil: The DJs that impact.

DJ Hear No Evil: Making the difference, I would say, it’s hard to pick on, one of the top DJs, I would say is DJ Scratch. He’s from New York City. He changed the game and he kept the turntablism running.

DJ Hear No Evil: He DJs for the big artists like Busta Rhymes, LL Cool J, so forth, so he teaches where turntables and music actually are coming from.

DJ Hear No Evil: That will make me go more deep about the music. That is what my father taught me which is cool, but he did say that we have to understand.

DJ Hear No Evil: where the music comes from where it originates. So I, no doubt, started to understand more about that from DJ Scratch

DJ Hear No Evil: Now other artists like rappers, singers.

DJ Hear No Evil: You know, I have to say.

DJ Hear No Evil: Jay-z. Jay-z is a rapper. He tells a story.

DJ Hear No Evil: He had more than 1 billion, he has a clothes business.

DJ Hear No Evil: he is a part owner

DJ Hear No Evil:: of Brooklyn Nets team.

Norma: Oh wow.

DJ Hear No Evil: So what I’m trying to say is. The sky's the limit.

DJ Hear No Evil: So there’s more than one thing you can do, because you can’t just focus on one thing. Because we have to have different avenues where you can add to your resume.

DJ Hear No Evil: So people can respect you for more than what you're doing.

Nadine Vogel: I have to step in, because we must go to commercial break I’m just summarize, but the conversation I’m not even paying attention to the time.

Nadine Vogel: We need to go to a quick commercial break so for our listeners stay tuned Norma and I and our DJ Hear No Evil we'll be right back.

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Voiceover: And now back to our show.

Nadine Vogel: Hello to our listeners, this is Nadine Vogel I am joined by Norma Stanley we are the Co-hosts of Disabled Lives Matter and if you've been listening so far to our interview with DJ Hear No Evil, you know Disabled Lives do Matter and why so Norma I’m going to turn it back over to you.

Norma: Well yeah I mean there's just so many questions I actually want to ask but, you know.

Norma: In history, I understand there are some people in history that you really admire that you would like to you know share with people as to why you admire those people can you share a couple people in history that you admire and why that is.

DJ Hear No Evil: Oh the few people I look up to is.

DJ Hear No Evil: DJ Scratch.

DJ Hear No Evil: And my, my mother, my father, he was in the music game.

DJ Hear No Evil: All those people inspired me to work harder.

DJ Hear No Evil: I can’t give up.

DJ Hear No Evil: So because what I am really trying to say is that I cannot make any excuses.

Right.

DJ Hear No Evil: If it’s there, I can get there, I just have to overcome my obstacles.

DJ Hear No Evil: So that’s how they motivated me and when I stay motivated for myself to get to where I need to be at.

DJ Hear No Evil: I’m talking about my life, my health, my mindset.

DJ Hear No Evil: The whole, everything.

Norma: Right and.

Norma: As your you know progressing in your your career and making such great name and reputation for yourself how are you being received from the community in general, I see you have a really big social media following How do people receive your work obviously you.

Norma: love it, but I would like to know what you think.

Norma: How do they respond to you when you do your gigs.

DJ Hear No Evil: So what I do is, I started with social media, I keep postings of my work.

DJ Hear No Evil: Not my work, but to make people aware of

DJ Hear No Evil: deaf history, and I use sign-language.

DJ Hear No Evil: and motivate everybody.

DJ Hear No Evil: by talking about the kids and.

DJ Hear No Evil: looking through their eyes and adding a hashtag, got my fraternity brothers, because they are all over the country.

DJ Hear No Evil: And all over the world.

DJ Hear No Evil: Not just the United States I’m talking about, all over.

DJ Hear No Evil:: And in the deaf world too so that's how I got a lot of people come to check my work. Not just myself, I have them look at other deaf composers, so I get their name out there as well.

DJ Hear No Evil: You know, so they'll make it and I’m not trying to be selfish, but at the same time, I have to show my work too.

DJ Hear No Evil: Cause I'm trying I'm trying to make it too.

Norma: That’s right, that’s right. I’m not mad at’cha. That’s what you gotta do.

Nadine Vogel: You know.

Nadine Vogel: You know it's interesting a comment you made early on keeps kind of swirling in my head a little bit, which is about you know, using your hands to express.

Nadine Vogel: And I keep coming back to this concept, because obviously for someone who is deaf you do use your hands to express, but I don't think that people equate it and realize that for a DJ.

Nadine Vogel: Right if not for your hands, how will you, you know express this and I just this takes me to a whole other discussion about you know, have you ever.

Nadine Vogel: Oh, my gosh I don't even want to say taught a class published a book or wrote an article I don't know I just feel like there's something here.

Nadine Vogel: To a teachable moment for people to really understand the concept of expression and expressing with your hands beyond just what people will think of in terms of sign language so I'm sorry to derail a little bit Norma but it's like it just.

Nadine Vogel: Keeps coming back to me, as this is really important.

Norma: I agree.

DJ Hear No Evil: Yeah, yeah I definitely I definitely agree with that because everybody has a different way to show and express their story. And not just to move their hands.

DJ Hear No Evil: There is one female who is blind. She’s from Mount Vernon too, but she’s blind. So she can tell her story.

DJ Hear No Evil: You know, a basketball player I think he didn’t graduate from high school yet , but he is hearing, but he’s playing with one arm.

DJ Hear No Evil: I can’t remember his exact name, but.

DJ Hear No Evil: He got it he got it, excited because everyone got it.

DJ Hear No Evil: So he plays with one arm and that’s amazing.

DJ Hear No Evil: You know what I mean, so everybody has a different kind of niche.

DJ Hear No Evil: That can show their talents.

DJ Hear No Evil: There’s no excuses for not doing.

DJ Hear No Evil:: Oh, I can’t do it, but no, we have the ability to do it.

Nadine Vogel: Right, right. Absolutely I just said that's that's just so interesting Norma you know I feel like it's something we need to explore even further.

Nadine Vogel: Another time but I, this is an important concept.

Norma: Absolutely, the DJ industry, the DJ-ing industry is huge, I mean Beyonce sister Solange is a DJ was a DJ. Khalid there so many really, really.

Norma: Big name, DJs out there, that I didn't even realize there was so many and they do all these international type of gigs is that something that you aspire to be a part of that group.

DJ Hear No Evil: Oh yeah.

DJ Hear No Evil: every night.

DJ Hear No Evil: I mean, that’s one of my biggest goals. you know I mean my goal is to be one of the top DJ producer

DJ Hear No Evil: In the world. So like, it will be amazing for me to do it working up to get there, I mean, even though I’m well known, but at my status, I am still working to get there, but I have to find a way to get to where I need to be at. Right now, it’s all about who you know nowadays

DJ Hear No Evil: I when I say about who you know it’s about connecting, networking like you have to go out to talk to people and then meeting people letting them know about who you are and you never know who might get back to you.

DJ Hear No Evil: It could be one out of one million people walking to you and then they’re calling you, hey youneed to come to the big event.

DJ Hear No Evil: Oh, that would be amazing. Then going over there, and it starts there, and then you work your way up.

Nadine Vogel: So when you.

Nadine Vogel: So when you perform at the Grammy awards Okay, you know, Norma, you and I can say.

Nadine Vogel: Hey the Disabled Lives Matter podcast to the Grammys.

Nadine Vogel: Ha, ha, ha. One-stop shop.

Norma: Absolutely, absolutely. That is so cool. Now you teach you teach sign language and have done that around the world really in different countries and in different places in the US to teach with the American sign language workshop and how does that work and do you still do it.

DJ Hear No Evil: So I’m not

DJ Hear No Evil: teaching A-S-L.

DJ Hear No Evil: Yet. In the future I wouldn’t mind.

DJ Hear No Evil: What I do is I do motivational speaking so I talk to people about my life.

DJ Hear No Evil: I was teaching, but I was teaching about deaf history, so that is the difference.

DJ Hear No Evil: So I’m teaching them more about finger spinning, how to use a turntable along with sign-language, all of that. So that’s the difference.

DJ Hear No Evil: But would I like to teach people to learn A-S-L, absolutely. It would be nice to communicate with people in A-S-L so we can, so the reason I would want to teach them is so that we can combine into one world instead of separate worlds. Deaf World, Hearing world, no. The need to be into one world. That’s how we are going to improve our communications.

DJ Hear No Evil: So yeah I wouldn't mind a few people who want to know more about American Sign Language.

Nadine Vogel: So you know Norma, I'm thinking we should introduce him to the folks at Sign1News.

Norma: Absolutely, absolutely.

Nadine Vogel: They can do a story on him.

Norma: Absolutely, I will make sure that Karen knows about you and um.

Norma: I am thinking that would be something that can.

Norma: Definitely happen. Absolutely.

Nadine Vogel: Are you familiar I don't know if you're familiar with Sign1News, but it's a news station and front of camera behind camera everyone is deaf and it's all you know, like CNN type news and and they have amazing stories and you should be on there.

Nadine Vogel: We’re going to help you get to the Grammys.

DJ Hear No Evil: I mean, I don’t mind, I’m down for that. You know what I mean, I'm open minded like that, you know making an impact, you know.

Nadine Vogel: So I'm curious if, if, two things I have one question first, which is, if you could have a, if you could meet your younger self today if you got introduced to your 10 year old self.

Nadine Vogel: What would you tell him.

DJ Hear No Evil: wow.

DJ Hear No Evil: that’s a good question.

DJ Hear No Evil: I mean a very good question.

DJ Hear No Evil: I mean, if I meet my 10 year old myself, I’m I can’t tell myself everything because that would mess up the future. But what I can tell is that he needs to stay focused.

DJ Hear No Evil: Focused and work hard.

DJ Hear No Evil: Don’t get distracted.

DJ Hear No Evil: because when you get distracted you lose the passion.

DJ Hear No Evil: You’ll lose the focus for wherever we need to be at. I mean because I was a kid, I could have gotten into the bad things I mean I almost did I mean good thing is my grandfather talked to me and stopped me and said okay focus you know what I mean.

DJ Hear No Evil: So too will tell myself work hard.

DJ Hear No Evil: Stay focused. You know.

DJ Hear No Evil: Meet with the right people.

DJ Hear No Evil: Because getting mixed up with the wrong crowd will mess up your life and mess up your mindset. And everything that you dream about.

DJ Hear No Evil: That’s something I would tell my 10 year old self. Just like that.

Nadine Vogel: And I, and I guess your advice would be probably similar for an up and coming a younger DJ that you know someone that aspires to be you and to do what you're doing I presumed then the advice would be pretty much the same.

DJ Hear No Evil: Yeah, yeah, yeah most definitely. Most definitely. I mean.

DJ Hear No Evil: It’s amazing because my life is very interesting, you know, even though after I graduate from college my life is interesting as a whole.

DJ Hear No Evil: So I’m able to do this, and I’m able to do that. Oh wow, so I thought about

DJ Hear No Evil: learning new experiences.

DJ Hear No Evil: And how you get better from that.

Norma: Absolutely. So what did you major in in college What was your major.

DJ Hear No Evil: I graduated with a media-marketing and accounting I have two majors, I graduated with bachelor degrees, I have master certifications

DJ Hear No Evil: So I have a bachelors and masters.

DJ Hear No Evil: yeah. Yeah.

Nadine Vogel: That's an interesting combination marketing and accounting.

Nadine Vogel: Usually the people in marketing was nothing to do with the numbers.

Nadine Vogel: And the people doing the numbers want nothing to do with marketing.

Norma: Exactly. That’s interesting. I, I am one of those people who want nothing to do with the numbers.

Nadine Vogel: Right, right, me too, I know.

Nadine Vogel: But you know I it's an interesting combination, because, in part, that really helps you beyond beyond DJ running the business of DJ-ing.

Nadine Vogel: That really gives you some great background to be able to do that as well.

Nadine Vogel: Right. Yeah because.

DJ Hear No Evil: I would definitely like to be a hip hop mogul like Jay-z or Diddy, or Russell Simons,.

DJ Hear No Evil: So I can bring my deaf community out there.

DJ Hear No Evil: And help them to explain how to do it right. And then they can go ahead and do their own thing.

DJ Hear No Evil: While I’m pursuing my own thing as well.

Nadine Vogel: Right, right.

Nadine Vogel: Awesome, awesome, very cool.

Nadine Vogel: Wow Norma, This is like amazing.

Norma: Yeah I really enjoyed learning more about you DJ. What part of Brooklyn are you in. Or do you still live in Brooklyn.

DJ Hear No Evil: I live in Mount Vernon, New Rochelle.

DJ Hear No Evil: But I travel a lot.

DJ Hear No Evil: I tend to go D.C., Washington D.C, and then Atlanta.

DJ Hear No Evil: Texas, Florida, I travel a lot. Depends what kind of event I’m doing.

DJ Hear No Evil: BecauseI’m unable to say no that’s too much because I’d rather stay outside the comfort zone.

DJ Hear No Evil: You gotta be comfortable with being uncomfortable.

Norma: that's right.

DJ Hear No Evil: So I’d rather strive a lot, and go outside.

DJ Hear No Evil: get some experience also expanding my brand.

DJ Hear No Evil: I just got back from Jamaica. Two months, what’s today, this is.

DJ Hear No Evil: March.

DJ Hear No Evil: I got back from Jamaica about. Four or five months ago.

Nadine Vogel: Ah.

DJ Hear No Evil: So I was DJ-ing in Jamaica, it was a nice experience.

Norma: Nice.

DJ Hear No Evil: So I DJ’ed there, I wouldn’t mind to DJ in.

DJ Hear No Evil: Europe.

DJ Hear No Evil: That’s where the big money comes in.

Norma: Yeah.

Nadine Vogel: Well okay. We’re going to have to keep talking because you know my company works with you know companies around disability and we have events in different parts of the world, and when we get finally get rid of Covid, hopefully, and we can go back to our in person events we just may be reaching out to you.

DJ Hear No Evil: So you have my email. Instagram or whatever.

DJ Hear No Evil: So you can reach out to me.

Nadine Vogel: Well, you know what let's let's do it let's close on that note, if someone is listening to this and it looking to book an amazing DJ how do they get in touch with you.

DJ Hear No Evil: So.

DJ Hear No Evil: If you want to reach out to me to DJ or as a motivational speaker, you can reach out to me on my Instagram or by email. So my Instagram is @djhearnoevil one more time, @djhearnoevil

DJ Hear No Evil: And my email is bookingdjhne@gmail.com.

Nadine Vogel: Okay.

DJ Hear No Evil: One more time bookingdjhne@gmail.com.

Norma: Okay, great.

Nadine Vogel: For all our listeners you heard it here.

Nadine Vogel: If you need a DJ, this is the guy to call or to email or however you want to get in touch with him. Norma, thank you. Wasn’t this amazing.

Norma: Yeah, thank you so much, I really learned so much about the craft.

Norma: And looking forward to seeing you again very soon.

Nadine Vogel: Absolutely so to our listeners, I know you enjoyed this is much as we did, and we look forward to seeing you and speaking with you on another episode on our next episode.

Nadine Vogel: of Disabled Lives Matter more than a podcast, it is a movement and Norma, thank you so much, so we have Norma Stanley and Nadine Vogel till next time bye everybody.

DJ Hear No Evil: Thank you for having me.

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