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And this week’s episode is featuringJon!
Not ‘Good Enough’: Inside the Eyes Wide Shut 4K Debate with Jon Thompson
In this lively, wide-ranging conversation with post-production veteran John Thompson, DJ and Jon dig into the controversy around Criterion’s Eyes Wide Shut 4K release and why 12‑bit Dolby Vision (Profile 7) matters for preserving filmmakers’ intent—especially for Kubrick. Jon breaks down bit depth, chroma subsampling, Dolby Vision’s cinema vs. TV profiles, and how downsampling can rob highlights, depth, and color nuance. They branch into the history of film vs. digital (from DCI and IMAX to ACES and grain management), why presentation is part of the art, and how home theater standards influence the entire ecosystem. Along the way: Kaleidescape vs. disc, power supplies and noise, lenses and bokeh, the economics of high-end vs. mid-market gear, AI hype vs. reality, and vivid anecdotes about Kubrick’s process, Neil Armstrong’s “one small step,” and the enduring value of striving for better over “good enough.”
Bottom line: If you care about fidelity, consistency, and honoring the work, asking for the best available delivery format isn’t nitpicking—it’s the point.
Chapters
- (00:00:00) Opening banter and setting the agenda
- (00:00:45) Eyes Wide Shut on Criterion sparks a quality debate
- (00:04:40) Dolby Vision vs HDR10: history, licensing, and bit depth
- (00:07:36) 8‑bit to 16‑bit: lessons from VFX, DCI testing, and standards
- (00:12:19) Pixel depth over pixel count and the rise of HDR cinema
- (00:16:43) Kubrick’s influence: obsession with perfection and process
- (00:20:01) Case study: The Long Good Friday—12‑bit vs 10‑bit impact
- (00:31:41) High‑end processors and niche features: Trinnov and pro Atmos
- (00:41:26) Why file‑based playback can rival DCPs
- (00:44:53) Film vs digital highlights, dynamic range, and capture choices
- (00:50:13) Grain myths and proper grain management in scans
- (00:56:42) Why not 12‑bit? QC, seamless branching, and costs
- (00:59:31) Criterion’s track record, pricing, and likely silence
- (01:03:15) Trickle‑down tech: DLP, big OLEDs, and falling prices
- (01:05:41) Resolution vs HDR: when 2K is enough on smaller screens
- (01:06:25) Why Kaleidescape images pop: ASICs and HDMI design
- (01:10:27) Power supplies and noise: linear vs switch‑mode in AV
- (01:19:41) Kubrick team lore: lenses, DPs, and preparation for Eyes Wide Shut
- (01:26:48) AI accusations, editing tools, and writing voice
- (01:45:02) Chroma subsampling 4:2:0 vs 4:2:2 vs 4:4:4 explained
- (01:50:06) Digital archiving woes: lost tapes and fragile negatives
- (01:54:05) Studios restoring classics and obsessive research culture
- (02:03:00) Is streaming anti‑art? Group experiences and curation
- (02:05:00) Context matters: then vs now in theatrical awe
- (02:07:17) Community, tribes, and social media echo chambers
- (02:12:00) Pre‑internet research, libraries, and conspiracy thrillers
- (02:14:18) Bandwidth overkill and file sizes then and now
- (02:16:49) From flying negatives to digital delivery timelines
- (02:18:18) Cameras shrink, phones shoot 8K, and custom IMAX rigs
- (02:21:36) Nolan, Odyssey, and managing IMAX spectacle
- (02:25:35) What does space smell like? Humor and human details
- (02:26:24) Moon landing conspiracies, restorations, and Armstrong’s tale
- (02:33:11) Closing thoughts: Kubrick’s rigor and the 12‑bit ask
- (02:42:43) Wrap‑up, meta on discourse, and sign‑off Follow & Say Hi to the Guys on Twitter
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