Welcome Dan Smouse to the show. I haven't spoken to Dan since he was my junior high youth group paster from 1995-1997 (Now you never have to wonder how old I am!). He currently lives in Nikiski, Alaska where he shoots not only hunting guns, but pictures of nature and of people. A true fisherman, he is the lead pastor of a church.

This evening we talk about the 1986 sports classic, Hoosiers. Dan reveals how it's much more than just a sports movie, but it's a love story as well - on more levels than you'd think. He also talks about how this movie helped bring him out of a dark place by giving him a realization of something he desperately needed. His recounting of this story inspires me.

Dan also recalls his leader and mentor who stated, "I don't care if you like me. I care that you're godly." Dan reflects on this statement and how it has impacted him over the years. From there, we discuss whether Gene Hackman's character, Coach Dale, is a Christ-figure, and what we could learn from that, both from a leadership perspective and from the perspective of a follower.

We also talk a bit about idolizing and worshiping people, and why we do that. We talk about the heartache that comes when our idols fall, and how we should handle that ache.

And having worked a lot with youth, Dan answers the question of how far we should push our young ones in terms of athleticism. Also, are inspirational films damaging in the sense that they give false hope to those who just can't cut it?

We close out the interview with five Hoosiers-related questions and Dan names three other desert island movies.

You HAVE to check out Dan's photography on his Instagram Page
Here's Dan's blog

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