Jeffery Saddoris: Everything: Recent Episodes
Jeffery Saddoris
I released my first podcast in 2009. I was hooked and have been recording deep-dive conversations with interesting and creative people about what they do and why they do it ever since.
Last week, I gave myself permission to do something that was a: pretty far outside of my comfort zone and b: completely unnecessary. If you read or listened to my last Iteration, you know I’ve been wanting an Elektron Digitakt for years, but would never allow myself to get one. Well, they say that fortune favors the bold, so I finally took the plunge and bought one. I had been lurking in the classified listings on Reverb for months, favoriting “mint” condition Digitakts, only to watch them sell to everyone but me. A couple weeks ago, a new listing popped up that caught my eye because the device appeared to be brand new. I reached out to the retailer — a music store in Tulsa — and asked about it. The owner got back to me the next day and said that it had never been taken out of the box, so I clicked the “Buy Now” button and eagerly awaited its arrival.
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Elektron
Reverb
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Sunday was my birthday and as I begin my 58th trip around the sun, I’ve been reflecting on some of the things I’ve learned over the past half-century or so. I’m not talking about skills per se, though I have racked up a fairly impressive list. I think one of the things that has both helped the most while also being the most frustrating is the realization that in the vast majority of cases, control is an illusion. And when I say control, that could mean a job, our health, the art we make, almost anything — and a few things have happened recently that have really solidified that for me.
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I’ve been thinking about something for a while and I’m not sure whether or not it’ll land, but I’d like to try stringing together a few ideas. I think it’s time for us to embrace being self-centered, but not in the way that you might think. Typically, when we refer to someone as “self-centered” it’s not a compliment. It often refers to someone who is egotistical and only thinks about themselves or whose only concerns are their own wants, needs, or even interests. But I think there are ways we can reframe the idea of being self-centered as a positive instead of a negative.
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Whether you call it a slump, a funk, a downturn, a slowdown, a struggle, a breakdown, a nosedive, a stall, a meltdown, a plunge, or just stagnation, I’ve been in one for a while. While I have multiple journals that are dappled with notes, sketches, and the beginnings of ideas, I haven’t actually recorded a new show or finished a new painting in months. Even this newsletter has taken a hit on consistency after more than 130 weekly entries. I know the situation will come back online — or at least I believe that it will — but at the moment, my normally overflowing trough of creativity is experiencing a bit of a drought. And here’s the thing — I know that I’m not alone in feeling this way. I’ve talked with a number of people who are experiencing if not the same thing, something very similar — and it’s not just people who identify as “creatives.” There seems to be a common feeling that we’re on existentially shaky ground or in unfamiliar territory and we feel like even the few things we thought we had some control or agency over are slipping. I know that’s true for me and for several of my friends. Maybe it’s also true for you.
QUESTIONS
Have you ever come back to a creative pursuit that you previously stepped away from? How did it go?
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For the past few weeks, maybe even the past month or so, I’ve been on sort of an Ethan Hawke deep dive. I like Ethan Hawke as an actor and while I haven’t seen everything he’s ever done, I really like Training Day and I would probably put Dead Poets Society and Gattaca in my top 20 — actually, maybe top 30. I know some people find him pretentious, but whenever I’ve seen him interviewed, he always seemed like a good guy. A few years ago, he did a TED Talk called Give Yourself Permission to be Creative that popped up in my feed recently, and watching it again reminded me how much I resonate with a lot of the same ideas he has about creativity. For example, one of the first things he says in the talk is “…a lot of people really struggle to give themselves permission to be creative, and reasonably so, we’re all a little suspect of our own talent.” I think we’ve all felt the same way at one point or another in our lives. I know I have. Whether it’s Imposter Syndrome or the nagging voice of Resistance, occasionally doubting our own talents and gifts seems to be par for the course when trying to live a creative life — and that’s before we even get to purpose, which is a completely different animal.
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LINKSGive Yourself Permission to be Creative | Ethan Hawke | TED
Maya and Ethan Hawke’s Closet Picks
In the Screening Room with Ethan Hawke and Maya Hawke
What No One Told Ethan Hawke About Being Famous
How Ethan Hawke Ended Up In Taylor Swift's New Music Video
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The other day I was on the phone with my friend Neale James and we were talking about a recent episode of his podcast The Photowalk, on which he was talking to our mutual friend Sean Tucker about creativity. “I invite you,” Neale begins the episode, “to imagine a five-pointed star. Now on each point of the star, I’d like you to think of a word that’s important to you in terms of creativity or your creativity. Each is a kind of cornerstone of the why and even how you create as of today.” As an aside, if you’re not listening to Neale’s show, you really should give it a try. Neale is a terrific host and his episodes are masterclasses in audio production and atmosphere. Anyway, as we were talking about his episode with Sean, he asked what the points on my creative star might be. On one hand, “why do you create?” is a deceptively simple question that many of us spend inordinate amounts of time wrestling with — at least I do. I think that Neale’s clever addition “as of today” gives us a little wiggle room and leaves the possibility open that these five terms don’t have to define our making for all eternity, but rather just for now. It’s one of the reasons that I love this as an exercise. While the creative process itself is important, I think that checking in with ourselves around why we create is equally valuable — maybe even more so because it allows us to square what we’re making against why we’re making it.
QUESTIONSWhat are some of the points on your creative star?
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My archive of paintings
Dorothy Simpson Krause
inkAID
Father Bill Moore
Shepard Fairey
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If you’ve been subscribed for a while, you probably know I’m a big Nine Inch Nails fan and have been since 1990 when I saw them open up for Peter Murphy. The other day, I was watching a terrific video with Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross breaking down some of their most iconic tracks. One of the more fascinating aspects of the video was how much Trent talks about process and how important the “feel” of the music was and still is. “When we write music,” Trent says, “it’s coming from a place where its main intent is to have you feel a certain way. It’s not coming from a love of melody and a joy of intricate chord progressions or technical wizardry.”
I love this because he’s not just chasing easy likes or trying to impress the audience. Instead he’s focusing on how the work serves the overall project and on the relationship between the work and the audience. It’s not a “look at me” type of thing, like a gratuitous guitar solo or a vocalist who takes every opportunity to sing an unnecessary run. That’s not the point, which I think speaks to a level of creative maturity that’s important to cultivate as any kind of artist.
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Last week, we recorded the last episode of On Taking Pictures. If you’re a longtime listener, you may think you’ve heard this before, and you’re right, you have. But this time it’s different. I’ll get to why in a minute, but first I need to back up.
In 2008, I was teaching Photoshop at Tri-Community Photo in Covina, California. One of the other instructors and I started doing photo walks with some of the students on the weekends. As they got more popular, we put up a simple web page called Faded & Blurred that had details about the upcoming walks. It pretty quickly evolved into a full-blown site, complete with a blog, spotlights on some of our favorite photographers, and a podcast called Q&A@F&B, which was a series of long-form conversations with photographers who were willing to sit down with me for an hour and talk about their work. In addition to getting to talk with photographers like John Keatley, David duChemin, and Ibarionex Perello, I also spoke with Bill Wadman for the first time. Bill and I hit it off straight away, and in 2012, when he was thinking about doing a weekly photography podcast, he started auditioning potential co-hosts. He reached out to me and asked if I’d be interested. I said sure, and my audition ended up being the first episode of OTP. For the next 6 years and 325 episodes, my Tuesday mornings were spent recording the show, with me in Rancho Cucamonga, California—at least to start—and Bill in Brooklyn, New York.
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The artist Richard Serra died recently, and I know he’s considered a big deal in the art world, but honestly I’ve never really gotten what all the hype is about. I suppose I can appreciate the scale and the forms of some of the work in the same way that I can appreciate the architecture of Frank Gehry, but overall, it just never really grabbed me. Anyway, one of the posts that came up in my feed contained a quote by him that goes:
“Art for the most part, is about concentration, solitude and determination. It's really not about other people's needs and assumptions. I'm not interested in the notion that art serves something. Art is useless, not useful.”
LINKSConversation with an Artist: Richard Serra
Richard Serra - Talk with Charlie Rose (2001)
Richard Serra on his Drawing (2011)
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After recording last week’s episode of On Taking Pictures, Bill sent me a link to a video that’s both fascinating and deeply disturbing, called “AI vs Artists: The Biggest Art Heist in History.” The video presents some of the grim facts around how images, including the 5.85 billion uncurated images in the LAION-5B dataset, are being illegally scraped and used to generate derivative work. The dataset was initially intended for research but has since been made available commercially and has been used to train AI models, including MidJourney and Stable Diffusion. While it does contain images from the public domain, it also contains millions of copyrighted images, as well as explicit content. As they say in the video, no consent was obtained, nor were artists given the opportunity to opt in or opt out—and this is really at the core of why so many artists whose work has been stolen are so upset.
LINKS
Juxtapoz article
Wolfe von Lenkiewicz
AI algorithms
Discussion on Threads
Gagosian
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About a week ago, I jumped back into using Photoshop for the first time since 2018 and I’ve got to tell you, it was kind of like putting on a favorite pair of jeans. Yes, the interface has changed a little and a bunch of terrific new tools have been added—especially Object Select, which I’ll come back to in a minute. But even after such a long hiatus, it was still so familiar that straight away it got me thinking about why I stopped using it, and in a broader sense, about some of the decisions we make around the tools we use.
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I started this Iteration on February 29th—Leap Day—and for me it was a good day, which, frankly, I really needed. In the last Iteration, I talked about how difficult 2023 was for me and in the week or so since I shared it a lot has happened. Probably the biggest thing is that I’ve started going to therapy. I’ve danced around it for a long time and I think it just got to a point where I could no longer keep pretending that everything was okay—that I was okay— and that whatever was “wrong” with me, I could either fix it or just keep pushing it down. Neither of which is true, of course.
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I’m not going to bury the lede—2023 was not a great year for me, especially financially. In fact, I think it was one of the worst years I’ve had since I became a solo creative, and for the most part, it was nobody’s fault but mine. One of my favorite movies is High Fidelity (get the book here) and in it, there’s a scene where Rob (played by John Cusack) is going through a particularly frustrating time and says, “I’m sick of the sight of this place. Some days I'm afraid I'll go berserk, throw the "Country A through K" rack out on the street and go work at a Virgin Megastore and never come back.” I can definitely relate to that and it’s kind of where I was at the end of 2022. But I thought I would give it one more year to see whether I could come up with some new ideas and new work and maybe figure out a way to navigate the changing landscape of trying to eke out at least a partial living by being creative. And I know that phrase “being creative” is pretty loaded and it means different things to different people. For me, by and large it means painting, writing, and podcasting, or some combination of the three. Photography is in there somewhere too, but I’m still not really sure where.
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Today is February 5th and it would have been my dad’s 83rd birthday. I normally mark the day by posting a simple message like “I miss you, Dad” on Instagram or Twitter, when Twitter was still a thing and I was still on it. Today, I want to do something a little different and tell you a story. My dad could be tough and for a big part of my adolescent life, we butted heads. A lot. At one point, it got pretty bad and we actually didn’t talk for a while. It seemed like we were often at odds with one another about something, but maybe that’s just how I need to remember it. When he got sick, we got another chance to get good and let all of the things that once seemed so important just melt away. As heartbreaking as it was to see him deteriorate like he did, I really am grateful for the time that it allowed us to spend together. We managed to get to a place where we respected each other, not just as men, but as father and son. We spent a lot of time on the front porch—often in silence. We watched a lot of westerns and we talked about some of the things that went unspoken for decades. It wasn’t perfect, but it was good. I was holding his hand when he died in 2013 and while I was extraordinarily sad, when he took his last breath I was also grateful. He had fought as hard as he could for as long as he could, but now his pain was over and he could finally rest.
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A couple weeks ago, I finally bought a set of wireless mics. I had been wanting and maybe even needing a set for a long time as a way to record the random conversations I seem to have with people out in the world on any given day. I’d been looking at them for a while, but I saw a review that Curtis Judd did—who was one of my favorite audio YouTubers—and I thought, “I'm just gonna get these. They'll be fine.” I had been going back-and-forth between the Røde Wireless Go IIs and the DJI Mics and then saw these Hollylands and thought, “You know what? I'm just gonna get them. The reviews are great (but specifically because I trusted Curtis).” So I bought them and they were just packaged so well and the design of the packaging was so well thought out—and borderline meticulous—that I decided I needed to do a video about it and talk about why those kinds of details are important—at least important to me.
LINKSMy video “unboxing” of the Hollyland Lark Max mics
Hollyland Lark Max - 2-Person Wireless Microphone
Curtis Judd - Hollyland Lark Max Review
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If you’ve spent any time around me at all, you know that I have opinions—lots of them—and I have since I was a kid. Sometimes when I would offer my unsolicited thoughts on various things, my mom would respond with “Oh, there he is…my little critic.” The thing is it’s not just criticism. Not always, anyway. More often than I generally care to admit, I find myself feeling personally offended, either by the design or functionality of a product or service or by someone—whether I know them or not—who simply doesn’t do something the way I think that it should be done. And to be clear, it’s not that I think that I’m better as much as I think that the way I do certain things is. I’m not right all the time and I have no problem admitting that. But when I am and I think that you’re not, I’ll happily tell you. I think it’s something I inherited from my dad—or maybe it’s a trait of undiagnosed neurodivergence. Either way, while I think I’ve gotten better about not being so critical (at least publicly), letting go of the behavior can be a mixed bag.
LINKSSean Tucker
The Meaning in the Making
The Man in the Arena
Simon Sinek
Start with Why
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Well here we are again, nearing the end of one more trip around the sun and I for one cannot wait for it to be over. Christmas used to be my favorite time of year, but that was really because of my mom. She would start decorating the house around Thanksgiving, and when I say decorating, I don’t just mean putting up lights—our house looked and smelled like a Hallmark store. Yes, there were lights, but she also had all sorts of ornaments, figurines, and little holiday town squares and villages. She wrapped or swagged garland everywhere she could, displayed her favorite Christmas cards from years past, and sometimes you could barely see the actual Christmas tree because it was absolutely covered with lights, decorations, and tinsel. Lots of tinsel.
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Back in the late 70s, there was a terrific documentary on the BBC called Connections. It was hosted by historian and author James Burke and now that I think about it, I don’t remember whether I watched it on PBS or I borrowed VHS copies of it from my freshman English teacher, Mrs. Copeland who also loaned out copies of Cosmos. And to be clear, I’m talking about the Carl Sagan version, not the Neil Degrasse Tyson version. Regardless, the show was all about tracing the connections between things that on the surface share nothing in common. I found it fascinating and I think it inspired me to start looking deeper at the world around me to try to see how things might be related.
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As we get into this Iteration, I’d like to take a minute to let you know about some changes that I’m working on that will be rolling out in the coming weeks and months. Iterations will still be weekly (mostly), but I’m going to mix up the types of posts I’ll be including and treat it more like an old-school blog. For example, you may have noticed that the Blips have been getting more substantial in terms of the research I do and the number of links I include. They started out as a just few links to things that I saw or found interesting during the previous week and have been evolving into something more comprehensive and hopefully more interesting and inspiring for you. Moving forward, they’ll still be part of their own section on Substack, but I’m going to lose the word “Blip” and the number in the naming convention of the titles to alleviate any potential confusion that comes with having Blip number 47 alongside Iteration number 124. I’m also going to be adding reviews into the mix—and that could mean books, movies, music, or the tools I use (like cameras or my favorite pencils)—so file numbering will be even more unnecessary. As you might expect, they’ll also typically include some sort of backstory and lots of links for you to explore. The more “existential” essays (like last week’s Learn to Love the Process) will continue, but won’t be quite as frequent.
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Over the past few days, the photography world has been buzzing about the “global shutter” on Sony’s new flagship A9 III. I’ve listened to various YouTubers andinfluencers talk about it as if it’s the second coming. They’re saying “it’s the most remarkable camera I’ve ever used” and calling it a “a game changer,” insisting that “it will change photography forever.” But here’s the thing: for 99% of photographers, it won’t change anything. If this is all Greek to you, let me back up a minute and briefly explain what a global shutter is—and I promise that this Iteration is not just about photography.
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They say that one of the best ways to solve a problem—at least a creative one—is actually not to think abut it. After all, how many times have you been doing something like taking a shower or going for a long walk and you find yourself having one of those eureka moments where suddenly the solution to a problem you’ve been wrestling with forever seems so clear? It happens to me a lot and it’s one of the reasons that taking walks in the forest behind our house has become a daily ritual. Trying to be present in something other than active problem solving allows our brains to continue working in the background without us trying to consciously force a solution. The act of stepping away from a problem is called the “incubation period” and it’s been studied for decades. In his book The Art of Thought, Graham Wallas proposed that the creative process is made up of four stages: Preparation (the acquisition of knowledge to some task), Incubation (the background process that occurs when conscious attention is diverted away from the task), Illumination (the moment the creative idea flashes into sight or being), and Verification (when the creative idea is subjected to evaluation)." While there have been dozens of studies documenting and validating the importance and effectiveness of the incubation period, last week I experienced another example of it firsthand.
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As I was working through the recent redesign of my website—which you can read about or listen to in the last Iteration—I started to look at some of the other software I was using to see whether what I was using still made sense for the projects I’ll be doing in the coming year. I think it’s sometimes easy to get into a routine of using tools that are “good enough” that we just don’t look for potentially better options. I know that’s been true for me.
About eight years ago, I ditched Photoshop completely and started using the Affinity suite of Photo, Designer, and Publisher, which by and large have been great. There are a few features I miss, but nothing that’s really kept me from doing the work that I needed to do.
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Last week I did a soft-launch of my newly redesigned website, which in an of itself isn’t all that unique since I’ve resigned my website dozens of times over the years. What is unique—or at least different—is the overall focus of the site and the process I went through putting it together this time around. I started by asking myself a relatively simple question: do I even need a website? The most common answer is “Yes, of course,” which is often followed by “especially because you’re an artist.” But I actually know quite a few “creatives” who don’t have their own websites. Some rely on a strong social media presence, some have gallery representation that drives sales of originals or prints, and others just have a storefront, so that a dedicated personal site isn’t really necessary.
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Next month is the tenth anniversary of my dad’s death, so naturally I’ve been thinking about him a lot. Last year, I completely forgot about it, which I tried to tell myself was actually healthy, but I just ended up feeling guilty about forgetting. If you’ve been following me for a while, or you’re an OTP listener, you know that my relationship with my dad was often difficult, to say the least. But as I’ve been thinking about him lately and how I’ve talked about our relationship in the past, I feel like maybe I’ve been a little incomplete in how I’ve portrayed him. I loved my dad, no matter how close or how far we were in the moment, and the truth is that he’s just as responsible for my creativity and to an extent my curiosity as my mom and my stepmother were.
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Lately, I’ve been thinking a lot about inertia and motion and how it applies to my creative practice. We know that Newton’s First Law of Motion says that an object in motion tends to stay in motion unless some sort of external force acts against it. Conversely, an object at rest will tend to stay at rest. But I would argue that the Fist Law also applies to intangibles like thoughts and ideas. For example, this week has flown by. Actually, the past couple of weeks have and I think it’s because I’ve been working through so many ideas and potential projects—and I’ve been working on them differently than I have in the past, which I think is what’s making all the difference. And to be clear, when I say “working,” sometimes that means just letting an idea go until it needs to be addressed. For some things that means now, but for others, that may mean next year.
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Are you overwhelmed? Do you ever get overwhelmed? Man, I do. All the time. My brain is always on and processing—either trying to process existing ideas or trying to figure out where to put all of the new ones that I haven’t had time to really think about. And it doesn’t stop. It’s all day, every day. There’s always a bunch of potential somethings bouncing around my head. And let me be clear—I love it and I’m grateful for it, but it is overwhelming and exhausting trying to keep track of it all and figure out where to put all of those ideas.
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I’m still not quite 100% myself, but I wanted to share a quick update. Yesterday was day 12 since testing positive for COVID, and it was the first day that I finally tested negative. Both Adrianne and I had very mild cases, especially compared to some of our friends and family members who really had a it bad. I had a temperature of 100.8 for one day and, other than feeling fatigued and brain fogged for the past week or so, that was pretty much it. Adrianne had it a little worse than me, but not much. The most frustrating part was continuing to test positive for days after the symptoms had subsided. And according to the latest from the CDC, you can continue to test positive for 90 days.
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I know I’m a little late on this Iteration and I apologize for that. As you can hear, my voice doesn’t sound the way it normally does and maybe that’s a good thing. Maybe it sounds better.
In the Iteration I was going to do, I was going to talk about finding that thing you live for, that thing that you love, that thing that lights you up. But I have to postpone it because I’m just having a hell of a time stringing two thoughts together. Even going through this right now, I’m live without a net, as it were. I don’t have a script or any outline like I normally would have when I record one of these. For this one, all I have is COVID and apparently have had it since sometime over the weekend—and let me tell you, it is not fun. Don’t listen to all of those stories telling you how great it is and how all the cool kids are getting it. It’s a lie. I’ve been vaxxed and vaxxed again boosted and, you know, while all of that probably means that it’s much less severe and means that the odds of me needing to go the hospital are much less, it still sucks.
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This Iteration was going to be about some of my recent musical explorations into things like VCV Rack and the Arturia MiniFreak (which I may actually end up selling), but instead I’d like to share a recent story with you that sort of blew my mind.
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When I was a kid, one of the things I would look forward to every year was going to the fair. The LA County Fair was massive and in elementary school we always got free tickets—I think they were stapled to our report cards, but I could be wrong. Although I moved around a lot as a kid, it seemed like we never lived very far from the fairgrounds, which are right next to the Pomona Raceway. My dad would take us there to watch the NHRA Winternationals every year and see people like “Big Daddy” Don Garlits and Don “The Snake” Prudhomme drive like bats out of hell down the 1/4 mile. I remember reading that at one point the LA County Fair was the largest county fair in the nation, but I don’t know if that’s still true. That said, to a 10-year-old, it was huge.
QUESTIONS
What’s your favorite part of your creative process?
Do you give that part of your process the time it deserves?
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LINKS
Santa Anita
Montgomery County Agricultural Fair
Maryland State Fair
Olympus EM1 MkII
12-40mm f/2.8 Pro lens
Jerry Uelsmann
Bob Burridge
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Over the weekend, Adrianne and I watched a fantastic new documentary by Anton Corbijn called Squaring the Circle. It’s about Hipgnosis, the legendary design agency in London formed in the late 1960s by Storm Thorgerson and Aubrey Powell, or “Po” to his friends. I knew I was going to love it before I even saw the trailer because so much of their work has been etched into my brain over the past four decades of my life. The work they did for Pink Floyd alone would have made them industry icons, but they also worked with Led Zeppelin, Paul McCartney, T Rex, Yes, Genesis, 10cc, and a ton of other bands over the course of their 15-year run.
LINKSSquaring the Circle (The Story of Hipgnosis) | Official Red Band Trailer | Utopia
Anton Corbijn on Squaring the Circle, Hipgnosis, Album Covers & Kurt Cobain
Category:Album covers by Hipgnosis
Storm Thorgerson | Designing The Impossible
Storm Thorgerson, Pt. 1
Storm Thorgerson, Pt. 2
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I’ve come to the conclusion that I can no longer care what you think about my work. And it’s not that I don’t care about you as an audience, but if I’m worried about you liking what I make while I’m still making it or even in deciding what to make, I’m not putting 100% of myself into it. By not caring what you think, I get to put 100% of my ideas, my skills, and my experience—not to mention effort—into what I’m doing, and ultimately that’s better for everyone.
LINKS
Kate Bush
The Kick Inside22 consecutive dates at the Hammersmith Apollo
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I’ve hesitated to really talk much about AI, mostly because I’ve been on the fence about whether I think it’s got the potential to save us or destroy us, and depending on who and what you read, it seems like it’s 50/50 either way. It’s just too soon to tell and I think these technologies are being adopted so quickly that we haven’t given ourselves enough time to think about the ramifications or the potential. Instead, everyone is rushing to become an armchair expert so they can monetize it into oblivion before they even understand it. Honestly, a lot of the talk around AI feels like a YouTube short that promises to teach you how to make thousands of dollars a month from affiliate marketing and drop shipping. Still, some of the image generation tools are interesting and I’ve been wondering whether or not there’s a place for AI in my creative workflow. I know there are a ton of legal and even moral and ethical questions that I still need to sort out for myself, but for the purposes of this Iteration, I’m going to put those aside and just focus on the tools themselves.
LINKS
Stable Diffusion
MidJourney
MidJourney Timeline
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I know we’re only a little over the halfway mark, but if I could recommend one book as my “must read” of 2023, it would be Rick Rubin’s The Creative Act: A Way of Seeing, despite the fact that I haven’t actually read it from cover to cover. Let me explain. I started to read it from the beginning but within just a few sentences, I knew it was going to be more of a reference book than a “read it once and move on” kind of book. So I just leave it on my desk and whenever I need a creative boost or a little blast of existential insight, I’ll pick it up and flip to a random page and read for a bit. Sometimes I flip to something new, while other times I end up reading something I’ve read before, which I think is a perfectly reasonable solution given the often-esoteric tone of the wisdom contained within it. My mom used to say, “you’re not ready to hear until you’re ready to hear it,” which is really a variation on the adage “when the student is ready, the teacher will appear.” That’s exactly what makes this a book that begs a second (or third or even fourth) reading.
LINKSI Almost Quit, Then I Read Rick Rubin’s Book
The Creative Act: A Way of Being by Rick Rubin
Rick Rubin in conversation with Dr. Rangan Chatterjee
This is my eighth summer living on the East Coast and aside from the heat, I am still not used to the humidity. Actually, I don’t think I ever will be. I spent the first 48 years of my life living in Southern California and starting when I was about 4 until probably my freshman year in college, I spent most of my summers in Arizona, which was hot but not humid. The landscape and the people left an indelible impression on me and though I can’t see myself ever going back—at least to live—I’ll always be more drawn to and more at home in the desolate beauty of Arizona and the American West.
LINKS
152° at Persian Gulf International Airport
Buckskin Mountain State Park
Parker Dam
Parker, Arizona
Lake Havasu
London Bridge
The Spy Who Loved MeWetbike
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I’m going to try something different, so I really don’t know exactly where this Iteration is going to go. I thought I’d just put on some music and write whatever came to mind. At the moment, Dark Star by Crosby, Stills, and Nashis playing in the background, which I love despite not really being a CSN fan. Adrianne found the album at this little record store in DC a few weeks ago that’s across the street from our favorite ice cream shop.
LINKS
My Mixcast 4 long-term update
My Mixcast 4 initial review
David Carson nucollage, vol. 1 review
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This has been sort of a weird week for me. Friday would have been my mom’s 79th birthday and for the past 14 years, not a day has gone by that I don’t think about her. Sometimes only a little, other times, I think about her a lot. I miss our Sunday brunches at Molly’s, though Molly sold the place years ago. I miss her smile, which I can no longer remember without looking at a photograph. Mostly, I miss her optimism and her goodness. I miss her advice and her belief in me and her unwavering faith in something greater than all of us that allowed her to see that people were basically good if we could just get out of our own ways and accept one another for the brilliant beings that she believed us to be. I need that right now.
LINKS
Grand Theft Auto: https://www.rockstargames.com/gta-v
Skyrim: https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim/
Zelda: https://www.zelda.com/
Red Dead Redemption 2: https://www.rockstargames.com/games/reddeadredemption2
On Taking Pictures: http://www.ontakingpictures.com/
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How do you know when it’s time to rethink or refresh your personal brand? It’s something I’ve spent a fair bit of time thinking about lately. But before we dive into that, I think we first need to answer another question and that is what does “personal brand” even mean? According to Gary Vee, “Your personal brand is your reputation.” Another way he put it was, “Your brand is about how someone feels in the moment when they interact with you or your business.” On the other hand, Harvard Business Review says that your brand is not your reputation, which is based how other people see you, but rather how you want people to see you. Reputation is certainly part of it, but it’s not the whole picture.
LINKS
Gary Vee article: https://garyvaynerchuk.com/5-strategies-for-personal-branding-online/
Harvard Business Review article: https://hbr.org/2022/02/whats-the-point-of-a-personal-brand
The Futur: https://thefutur.com/
Rethinking My Website: https://jefferysaddoris.substack.com/p/rethinking-my-website
It's Not About a Watch: https://jefferysaddoris.substack.com/p/its-not-about-a-watch
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Earlier in the week, a post came up in my Twitter feed that stopped me in my tracks before sending me down a rabbit hole that I think I may be in for a while. It was a post about a watch—or at least the possibility of a watch—by a designer named Sebastian Stapelfeldt, who publishes under the name Carl Hauser. It’s a terrific 3D render that looks like something out of one of Syd Mead’s sketchbooks, which is one of the reasons it caught my eye. If that reference doesn't mean anything to you, Syd was an industrial designer and illustrator who is probably best known for his work on Blade Runner and Tron. I think first discovered his work in the late 70s, about the same time that I first saw the work of Frank Frazetta. Both of these guys were huge inspirations, though Syd's influence didn't really show up in my work until the mid-90s.
LINKS
Carl Hauser: https://www.carlhauser.com/
Carl Hauser (Twitter): https://twitter.com/crlhsr
Syd Mead: https://sydmead.com/
Frank Frazetta: https://www.frazettamuseum.com/
Imagine 3D: https://archive.org/details/imagine-3D-for-DOS
MS-DOS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS
Siggraph: https://www.siggraph.org/
3D Studio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autodesk_3ds_Max
Softimage XSI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XOxGqs0Ck8
Maya: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autodesk_Maya
Lightwave: https://www.lightwave3d.com/
Universal Studios: https://www.universalstudios.com/
Blender: https://www.blender.org/
Ton Roosendaal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton_Roosendaal
Blender 1.0: https://www.blendernation.com/2020/08/21/blender-1-0-rises-again/
Blender stories: https://www.blender.org/get-involved/user-stories/
David duChemin: https://davidduchemin.com/
David's post: https://davidduchemin.com/2023/06/having-not-gone-farther-on-regret-creativity/
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As an independent creative, I spend the bulk of my time alone, which means I’m typically in one of my studios in the basement of our house. I have two spaces that have been purpose-built and tweaked over the past few years to fit the different aspects of my creative practice. The analog studio is where I do all of my painting and collage work and the digital studio is where I do everything else that doesn’t involve paint, which means research, writing, design, podcasting, and recently a bit of sound design and music. The studios share a common wall that has a double door so I can move quickly from one to the other depending on what I’m working on in the moment. While there are still a few more tweaks to make, I love these spaces, especially since my previous space (if you can even call it that) was a 4-foot section of counter in the laundry room. That said, it’s still a basement and all of the things that can work in its favor can also work against it, depending on the mental space I’m in. If I’m particularly inspired, being apart from the other goings on in the house is a welcome detachment that can really allow me to focus. But if I’m in the weeds, those feelings of detachment can easily translate into feelings of loneliness and isolation, both of which I tend to struggle with anyway.
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In this Iteration, I want to talk about things, specifically the things in our lives that take on a particular significance because of what they have come to represent and how difficult it can be when we let them go, either by choice or by circumstance.
A few days ago, Adrianne and I bought a new car and to say that it was a challenge would be a bit of an understatement. To be fair, the actual car selection process wasn’t too bad—especially compared to how long it’s taken me in the past (see Iteration 37). But trading in my 2010 Honda Fit proved to be extraordinarily painful—so much so that I had a bit of a meltdown at the dealership and wound up texting Adrianne from the parking lot telling her that I couldn’t go back in and that I just wanted to go home.
LINKS
Iteration 37: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jeffery-saddoris-everything/id1438550795?i=1000422376581
2010 Honda Fit: https://www.edmunds.com/honda/fit/2010/review/
Nikon F2: https://emulsive.org/reviews/camera-reviews/nikon-camera-reviews/the-nikon-f2-an-everyday-camera-for-the-21st-century
William Eggleston: http://egglestonartfoundation.org/
Angels Landing: https://www.nps.gov/zion/planyourvisit/angels-landing-hiking-permits.htm
YashicaMat 124G: https://www.lomography.com/magazine/91134-yashica-mat-124g-a-twin-lens-classic
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I was sitting in my studio the other day, looking at some of the 100+ paintings I’ve done over the past few years and out of the blue I thought to myself, “I hate all of these.” Adrianne walked in a few minutes later and asked what was going on and I said, “I think I hate everything I’ve done.” Adrianne being Adrianne then asked, “Do you really hate it or is it something else?” I didn’t answer immediately, but of course it’s something else, right? It has to be. But that’s how it came out in the moment. To be clear, I don’t love every piece I’ve ever done—I don’t think any artist really does—but I certainly don’t hate every piece either. So what is it that’s really going on?
LINKS
Picasso: https://www.pablopicasso.org/
The New Propaganda: https://projects.jefferysaddoris.com/
Grid Variations: https://projects.jefferysaddoris.com/
Sean Tucker: https://www.seantucker.photography/
Josef Müller-Brockmann: https://www.grapheine.com/en/graphic-design-en/graphic-designer-muller-brockmann-swiss-style
Reid Miles: https://www.udiscovermusic.com/stories/best-blue-note-album-covers/
Robert Rauschenberg: https://www.rauschenbergfoundation.org/
Robert Motherwell: https://www.wikiart.org/en/robert-motherwell
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This is Iteration number 100 and before we dive in, I want to say that this one is a big deal for me, not because it’s number 100—although, yes, that—but more because it’s about what it’s taken for me to get here and what I’ve learned about consistency and my own creative process.
If you’re an artist or maker of some kind and you’re on social media, regardless of the platform, you’ve undoubtedly heard about the importance of consistency. It’s one of the two main things that the algorithm rewards—the other one being time on platform. The problem with platforms is that you either are consistent or you aren’t. There’s typically no space for flux because the algorithm doesn’t care about nuance—it cares about numbers.
LINKS
Iteration 25
On Taking Pictures
Deep Natter
Jerry Seinfeld on Howard Stern
Iteration 97
My Substack
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This Iteration was originally going to be a story that bordered on a rant about trying to buy a new mouse from Amazon that went a little sideways. I’ll share some of the details in a bit, but the short version is that it took three attempts to get it right and I’m still not totally convinced that there isn’t some shady merchandise being sold as “real” by the world’s largest retailer. The best part of the thing was the title—I was going to call it “The Tale of the Mouse.” Clever, right? But as I’ve been thinking about it for the past few days, I think it’s really about something bigger and I think it’s something that nearly all of us can relate to—and that is how and why we buy the things we do.
LINKS
Musgrave Pencils
Logitech MX Master
Logitech M720
Logitech M720 (Best Buy)
Keychron
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In this episode, without knowing it, Sean and I each posted something about AI this week and we thought it might be fun to sit down and compare notes. We also talk about the growing problem of loneliness that exists on both sides of the Atlantic and a few of the things we’ve each been thinking about to help deal with it.
LINKSPhotography and the Rise of AI
Prompt. View. Repeat.Mali Davies Photography
Let’s Create - The Photography Show
Bowling Alone
Seattle Coffee Company
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Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: @seantuck
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers.
You don’t have to look far to know that AI is everywhere and it doesn’t seem to be going away anytime soon. It’s in the news and on social media. It’s what your colleagues are talking about when you’re at work and what your friends are talking about when you’re not. And no matter what you do for a living or for recreation, it seems like AI is going to either disrupt it completely or at least affect it somehow.
I’ve been following the development of some of the more popular AI platforms from the wings for a while now. I’ve tried ChatGPT, and I recently did an experiment with Midjourney and Stable Diffusion to see how they would handle prototyping ideas for a personal project I’m working on. Even though the results weren’t exactly what I wanted, they got me thinking about what I did want in a different way and ultimately gave me some new things to think about and iterate on in my sketchbook. While I can absolutely see the potential power of AI, I can also see some of the potential cost—and that’s what concerns me.
LINKS
Microsoft Designer - Stunning designs in a flash
AI Art Generator – Adobe Firefly
DALL·E 2
Midjourney
Stable Diffusion Online
ChatGPT
Rick Beato on AI
Generative AI Has an Intellectual Property Problem
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In 2018 I released a book called Photography by the Letter. It took three years of research, writing, re-writing, designing, and re-designing, and while it wasn’t as financially successful as I had hoped, it was one of the most satisfying projects I’ve ever done. After shopping it around to a number of publishers—all of whom passed on it—we self-published a limited print run and released it simultaneously as an eBook. Opening up the first box of books from the printer and seeing those three years represented as actual objects was a very emotional experience. I sent a copy to Ted Waitt at Rocky Nook, who had been incredibly helpful and supportive while I was writing it. He responded with a lovely email that read, “It is really quite beautifully designed and very well printed. I honestly cannot think of a self-published book that I have seen better production values on. Nicely done!” The book has gotten hundreds of glowing reviews like this, and none of them are wasted on me. As proud as I am of what we accomplished, I remember telling Adrianne that while I would love to write another book, I’d never do another one like Photography by the Letter. The technical nature of the writing was hard, dry, and way outside of my wheelhouse, which is why it took multiple passes to get it right. Still, I loved the process as a whole and have had the idea of writing another book in the back of my head ever since. The question is, which one?
LINKS
Write what you know?
Quentin Tarantino on writing
Brian Eno on ideas
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A little over a year ago, after getting a very disturbing email from my then web host saying that they were closing shop—without including an end date, mind you—I decided to try an experiment with my website. Rather than simply move my existing Wordpress installation to another web host, I built a new site using a platform called Carrd (affiliate link) which, according to the website, is perfect for building “simple, free, fully responsive one-page sites for pretty much anything.” And while that’s mostly true, there are features that allow you to fake displaying multiple pages on a single page and paid features that can add even more functionality. You can also set up subdomains to stand in for additional pages—which is what I’ve done to display multiple bodies of work—and for the past year or so, it’s done exactly what I’ve needed it to do.
LINKS
Carrd (affiliate link)
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In this episode, Maarten Rots joins me from the Netherlands for a terrific conversation talking about a recent salon group show he was in and the importance of saying yes to putting our work out into the world. Plus, I pitch him an idea for a potential new zine project and we even talk a little bit about AI…just a little.
LINKS
Kristopher Matheson
Everything’s a Remix on AI
Brian Eno biography (via Amazon)
John Cage biography (via Amazon)
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Instagram: @maartenrots
March & Rock magazine: https://marchandrock.com
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For years I’ve wanted to do some sort of legacy project that would allow me to explore and somehow acknowledge and maybe even come to terms with my family history. As many of you know, I come from a family of railroad workers. In fact, I’m the first and to my knowledge the only male in three generations of my family not to work for the railroad. At the beginning of 2019, I started laying the groundwork for a project that would not only allow me to lean into my family history but that I could also use as a starting point for something much bigger that could end up being the legacy project that I had been looking for. Unfortunately, COVID shut the world down and because the project really had to be done in person, most of the connections I made up to that point and permissions I had secured became moot. I got really upset about it because I loved the idea and it had taken me a long time to get there. But how I wanted to do it was completely disrupted and since at the time nobody had any idea how long the lockdown would last, I put the whole thing on hold, and it’s been there ever since.
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Last month, we lost Ryuichi Sakamoto, who was an absolute monster of an artist and since hearing the news I’ve been going back and listening to a bunch of his catalog, which is not only massive, but it’s also incredibly diverse.
There are certain artists whose work allows you to see the world differently. If they’re really good, they might even allow you to feel it differently. Ryuichi Sakamoto was one of those artists. He worked across multiple musical genres and he was able to tap into and even affect different aspects of the human experience. I think the first piece of Ryuichi’s music I heard was Forbidden Colors, which is a vocal version of the theme to a film he scored and acted in alongside David Bowie called Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence. It was also the first of what would be decades of brilliant collaborations with former Japan frontman David Sylvian. A friend in college had reintroduced me to David, who I was familiar with from Japan, but it was his solo record Secrets of the Beehive, which featured Forbidden Colors as a bonus track, that introduced me to Ryuichi and I’ve been a fan ever since.
LINKSYellow Magic Orchestra
Brandon Stosuy
Documentary about the piano that was damaged by the 2011 tsunami
asyncAsia
Roger Dean
Tales From Topographic OceansHugh Syme
Storm Thorgerson
Mick Rock
Eric Meola
Hipgnosis
Reid Miles
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If you’ve been following me for a while, you know that I’m a big fan of trains and have been since I was a kid. My dad was a railroad man for the Southern Pacific, as were his two brothers, my grandfather, and his father before him. So you might say that trains are in my blood. I remember my dad sometimes taking me to work with him and I would get to ride on the caboose while he did his shift. Of course this was back when trains still had cabooses, which they phased out in the early 80s. My dad really wanted me to go into the family business and he even set up an interview where basically all I had to do was sign some papers and I would have been in. But when I got to the interview, I couldn’t get out of my car. I could see the trajectory of the life that would mean and it just wasn’t the life I wanted. When I told my dad about it, he was furious with me. And understandably so. He took my response to mean that I thought I was too good for the life that was good enough for three generations of the men in our family. But it wasn’t that at all. It wasn’t that the life wasn’t good enough for me, it was that the life just wasn’t right for me. I wanted something different, not better, and he just couldn’t understand that at the time. All this to say, I still love trains and will occasionally even go out of my way to see one, but my love absolutely pales in comparison to someone I’ve been following on Instagram for the last couple of months.
LINKSFrancis Bourgeois
Joe Jonas
Louis Theroux
Elizabeth Gilbert
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In the last Iteration, I talked about how seeing the Philip Guston show at the National Gallery left me feeling a little envious of such a strong personal story, something that my own work just didn’t have. I talked to Sean about it over the weekend and shared some of what I had been feeling and he was quick to disagree saying that he thought my work was very personal. He said that in his opinion, my work is a reflection of how I see and experience the world. To him, all of my anxieties, my fears, even some of my childhood traumas are all right there on the canvas. “I know you don’t see it,” he said, “but what could be more personal than that?”
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On Friday I went down to the National Gallery of Art and man I came home in a funk. Usually, I come back super charged up and wildly inspired and just ready to get back into the studio, but Friday was not one of those days. I went down to have lunch with my friend Michelle and after lunch we walked through the Philip Guston show that just opened. I had never heard of Guston before and seeing his work was a very dramatic experience. So much so that after Michelle had leave to get back to work, I ended up going through the show again and taking a little more time on some of the pieces that really resonated with me the first time through. Before you enter the actual show, there’s a short video playing on a loop that gives a little background on Guston’s life—specifically his childhood as a Jewish immigrant in California, where the persecution of Jews and Blacks by the KKK caused massive trauma that would stay with him for the rest of his life and feature heavily in his art. On top of that, three days after his tenth birthday, his father hanged himself in the shed outside their house and Guston was the one who discovered the body. As a means of processing his childhood trauma, he taught himself to draw and at 14, he started to paint.
LINKS
National Gallery of Art
Philip Guston Now
Philip Guston - Wikipedia
The Guston Foundation
Stedelijk Museum
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A few days ago, I read a quote by the great art critic and author Jerry Saltz that goes, “Do not ask what a work of art means. Ask what a work of art does to you. Art is not a thing, or a noun. Art is a verb. Art is something that does something to you.” I’ve been thinking about the quote ever since and how it really came to me at the perfect time. First of all, I’d already come around to thinking about art as a verb, which I mentioned in a previous Iteration. But the other reason that the quote really resonated is that I’m getting ready to (finally) put my paintings out in the world and I’m thinking about value and worth—specifically financial value and worth.
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For the past several months, Adrianne and Sylvia and I have been watching Fringe, which is terrific show and was one of those shows that I never missed an episode of when it first aired. One of the cool things about rewatching it now is that it’s been long enough that I’ve forgotten a lot of the smaller plot points so that in many ways it feels like I’m seeing it for the first time. If you’re unfamiliar with Fringe, it’s a sci-fi show that originally came out in 2008 and was created by JJ Abrams, who also did Alias, Lost, Star Trek, and a ton of other things. Fringe centers around a special division of the FBI that investigates all sorts of paranormal phenomenon—think of it as The X-Files meets The Twilight Zone. It’s one of those shows that you find yourself talking about after watching an episode, which I absolutely used to do with friends when it first came out and it’s what Adrianne and Sylvia and I still do now.
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I want to let you know that this is the last regular episode with Sean and me for the foreseeable future. There will be more episodes of Deep Natter in the future with a variety of different co-hosts sitting in, like Jon Wilkening from the last episode, and I’m sure there will be more with Sean, I just can’t say when. We have been talking about this behind the scenes for a while now and both of us think that it makes sense to take a break while we each pursue other projects. I think when you listen to the episode, you’ll understand why.
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers.
A couple days ago I finished the last—at least for now—of a series of paintings I’ve been calling Cell Damage. I’ve posted a few of them on Instagram and over the past several days I’ve been doing an informal post mortem and really looking at them as a body of work to try to determine what worked, what didn’t, and why in each piece. I tend to think of my work in series, rather than as individual paintings, so when I finish a series—or at least get to a point that I want to take a break—I like to look at the whole thing and try to pick out a theme or a narrative or maybe just a technique that I’d like to take in a different direction. In that way, I think that all of my work is connected, though it may not be obvious at first.
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“Sometimes disengaging is the best way to engage.” That’s a quote from Rick Rubin’s new book, The Creative Act: A Way of Being, which I can’t recommend highly enough. Before I actually sat down and started reading it as a book, I would flip to a random page and read just what was on that page—and I actually think that with this particular book, that’s a perfectly acceptable way to approach it. First of all, the chapters are short—some are only a page or two—and between them are little one or two line quotes like the one I just shared and honestly, there have been a ton of these little thoughts and ideas that have sent me down rabbit holes or connected the dots between things that I have already been thinking about.
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This Iteration is a little different. Earlier in the week, I went into DC to visit a friend at the National Gallery and I took a few notes before and after—just a few thoughts that were in my head on the train ride in and out of the city. I love DC and whenever I go into town, regardless of why I’m there, I always come away recharged and inspired and just generally happier. Adrianne says that I should start doing it once a week. Maybe she’s right.
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In this episode, I'm joined by Jon Wilkening who, after a disappointing trip out West, walked away from the creative side of his life to refocus on his family. Now, three years later, the itch to create has started to come back, though he’s not exactly sure what that might look like.
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
"Art used to be in charge of us. You used to buy a whole album not even knowing what songs would be on it. Now, we have everything on demand. At your fingertips. In pieces. You think half the people that are posting quotes from Oscar Wilde have ever read one of his plays? Or posting photos of Audrey Hepburn have actually seen the film that it’s from? Not a chance."
That was an excerpt from a monologue—and it’s just one of several really terrific monologues—from a movie that Adrianne and I watched the other day called Vengeance. I don’t want to give away too much of the movie, but I will say that each of us had some expectations going into it and we couldn’t have been more surprised at how much we ended up enjoying it. In fact, it’s the first movie in quite a while that we’ve talked about multiple times after watching it. The other thing we’ve been talking about is The Last of Us on HBO, but I’ll save that for another time.
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MUSICMusic For Workplaces by Jeffery Saddoris
This month has been incredibly productive for me, both in terms of the painting I’ve been doing in the studio and in the amount of writing I’ve been doing. I’ve got multiple paintings in the works and I’ve started sketching out the framework for an entirely new body of work, which, if I can pull it off, will be different than anything I’ve done before. I feel like I’m still riding the wave of momentum that started building over the last couple months of 2022, after coming to some pretty terrific—and in some cases pretty profound—realizations around my work and where I see myself going over the next year. Looking forward is not something I’ve historically been very good at. Looking back, on the other hand, is something I do really well—often to pick at the scabs of some imagined shortcomings where I think I’ve failed myself or others. I just can’t think about 3 or 5 or 10 years out like some people do, especially since I’ve spent so much of my life not being able to see a 10 day plan, let alone 10 years.
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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about balance—specifically the balance between work and happiness and doing the work you love versus doing the work that pays the bills. Plus, we talk about stepping outside of our respective comfort zones to produce work that’s just as challenging for us as it may be to an audience.
LINKSParable (Print): Physical Magazine: PARABLE Window Light (vol.1) — Sean Tucker Photography
Parable (PDF + Audio): Digital Magazine: PARABLE Window Light (PDF + Audio) — Sean Tucker Photography
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
Before we get started, I’d like to ask you a few questions. There are no wrong answers here, I’d just like to get you thinking about them because they’re part of what has inspired this particular Iteration.
- Do you believe that you should ever compromise when making your art?
- Are you the only audience that matters when it comes to your art?
- Is there a difference between art and product? If so, should the approach to making those two different things be different?
While you’re thinking about the answers for yourself, I’ll share my answers to each of the questions. And keep in mind, these answers are just for me and your mileage may vary. I’m actually going to answer these in reverse, and I think by the end you’ll understand why.
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In this episode, Maarten Rots joins me from a village in the south of Spain where he’s been working on photos for the next issue of his magazine March & Rock. He’s also been reflecting on a decade as a photographer and we talk about some of the changes in how he approaches his work and what he gets out of it.
LINKShttps://www.andalucia.org/en/genalguacil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puente_Nuevo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marbella
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Towns_of_Andalusia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estepona
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Júzcar
https://www.andalucia.org/en/genalguacil-cultural-tourism-museo-de-arte-contemporaneo-fernando-centeno
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March & Rock magazine: March & Rock magazine
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
One of the first books I remember reading was The Outsiders by SE Hinton. Just to be clear — The Outsiders wasn’t the first book I ever read; not by a long shot. Even as a child, I had a pretty good sized library, which included classics from Dr. Seuss, Maurice Sendak, and Margaret and H.A. Rey. But The Outsiders was different. It was the first book I can remember that really resonated with me and made me think about language. In fact, it may be the book that began my love affair with the written word.
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MUSICMusic For Workplaces by Jeffery Saddoris
I’ve been listening to a lot more music lately—and not just in the background while I’m doing something else, but in the foreground as its own activity.
Growing up, my mom always had music playing in the house. She was a huge Motown fan, so I grew up listening to Diana Ross and the Supremes, Stevie Wonder, The Jackson 5, and way too many others to mention. She and my dad were also big Elvis Presley fans. I think my dad sort of wanted to be Elvis, which probably wasn’t all that uncommon for men in the late ‘60s. My mom and her friend Carol actually used to wait outside Elvis’ house in Brentwood, hoping to catch a glimpse of him coming or going. Although they never saw him there, they did get the chance to go to a party he hosted in 1969 at the International Hotel in Vegas, but that’s another story.
LINKS
Ulla Straus
Billow Observatory
Lisa Bella Donna
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Last week, I sat down for a conversation with Bill Wadman that was released in this feed as well as the On Taking Pictures feed, which hadn’t been updated since 2018. The response to the episode was, well, unexpected to say the least. We’ve gotten a ton of feedback and I can’t tell you how much we appreciate it. We don’t really know how often these conversations will happen moving forward, but it’s always good to sit down will Bill and just hit the record button and see where we end up.
What I do know is that this is part two of the conversation from last week that started with Bill talking about whether or not he was going to return his new Fuji GFX 100. In this conversation we’re talking about media, materials, and an incident involving some Ikea shelving that leads us down a rabbit hole around legacy and perspective.
LINKS
OTP Episode Archive
Ikea IDÅSEN shelving
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MUSICEyes This Way by Bill Wadman (w/ Andrea Mann)
Adrianne and I were out walking Cooper earlier and I asked her whether there was a single event that made her 2022 memorable. She thought about it for a moment as we walked and said, “Honestly, I can’t think of anything. Can you?” I tried to scrub through the previous twelve months in my mind and I drew a blank too. Nothing stood out. I mean, there are a ton of things that came to mind, like another year of Covid, another year of humans failing the environment, Congress, the Supreme Court, Brexit, China, Russia, Ukraine, Twitter. I could go on, but none of the things I would come up with feel very personal. They affect all of us in one form or another. When we got back to the house, Adrianne asked if she could read me a poem that one of her friends sent her. It’s an anonymous poem that was on the Plague Poems Twitter feed.
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MUSICMusic For Workplaces by Jeffery Saddoris
In 2012, Bill Wadman and I recorded the first episode of On Taking Pictures and for the next 324 weeks, we never missed an episode. Even though Bill and I don’t talk every week like we used to, whenever we do, it’s like picking up the conversation where we left off. If you’ve never listened to an episode of OTP, consider this a teaser for the 325 episodes you have ahead of you. OTP changed my life for the better and I always love getting to sit down with Bill, regardless of whether or not we hit the record button. But it’s often a lot more fun when we do because we get to share the conversations with you.
LINKSOTP Episode Archive
Michael Fremer
Wilson Watt Puppy speakers
Fuji 32-64 f/4 zoom
Fuji GFX100s
Johnny Carson Carnac the Magnificent
Bill’s GFX100s playback exposure issue
Pentax 645z
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MUSICEyes This Way by Bill Wadman (w/ Andrea Mann)
The other day, Paramount Pictures put up a ten-minute mini-documentary showing some of the preparation and training that Tom Cruise and the production crew went through to perform just one of the insane stunts from the next installment of Mission: Impossible. I say just one because I’m sure that the film is loaded with them. I mean, it’s a Tom Cruise movie, so there can’t be just one, right? There might be one that everyone talks about, like hanging off of the side of an Airbus as it takes off, or flying a helicopter through a 360-degree corkscrew dive, or performing 106 HALO jumps with a broken ankle just to get three shots, or…well, you get the idea. To say the man is focused is an understatement. Whether you love him or hate him, when it comes to leaving it all in the frame, I can’t think of another filmmaker more dedicated to the craft of making movies and entertaining audiences than Tom Cruise—and he’s been doing it for decades.
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MUSICMusic For Workplaces by Jeffery Saddoris
Before we get started, I want to let you know that we’re making some changes to the show. In addition to bringing back Process Driven, these conversations with Sean will go to monthly, rather than twice a month and my goal is to bring in a different co-host for at least one additional episode per month. All of the episodes will still be part of my main podcast feed, which is now called Jeffery Saddoris: Almost Everything since I’ve got some things in the works that will not be a part of the main feed. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to reach out. In this last episode of 2022, we’re talking about the year ahead and some of the changes each of us want to make, both in terms of what we do and how we do it.
LINKSRichard Mosse
Maria Lax
Stefan Sagmeister - Made You Look
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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This is the sound of me writing. Specifically, it’s the sound of me writing this Iteration. I’m using a Slate Gray Pilot Prera fountain pen with a medium nib, loaded with my favorite ink: Namiki IC-100 in blue/black. While I typically sketch and jot down ideas on paper, I do most of my actual writing in an app called Bear, which I’ve used for a number of years. But for the past several weeks, I’ve been going back and forth on getting a new iPad to replace my aging second-generation iPad Mini along with an Apple Pencil so that I could potentially retain the feeling of analog writing on a digital device. What I found is that while the mechanics of writing on the iPad might be the same, the feel isn’t even close—and that’s where it falls apart for me.
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MUSICMusic For Workplaces by Jeffery Saddoris
For several years in a row starting when I was in junior high, my dad used to take me to the Point Mugu Naval Air Show. Military aviation was something we had in common and the Point Mugu show was always terrific. That was the show I first saw the F-14, the F-15 (which, at the time was the only jet that could actually accelerate on a vertical climb), the F-16, and even the SR-71, which is still my favorite aircraft of all time. Anyway, one particular year—and this might have been around 1979 or 1980, as we walked around the show, we overheard people talking about the Harrier, which neither one of us had ever heard of.
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In this episode, we’re picking up at the tail end of a conversation Sean and I were having about money and value and how that relates to art and it reminded Sean of an interview he was listening to with Steven Fry, which helps to set the tone for the rest of the show. Pay particular attention to the beautiful bit of wisdom Sean drops at about the 30-minute mark.
LINKSDiary of a CEO: https://stevenbartlett.com/the-diary-of-a-ceo-podcast/
The Judge: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1872194/
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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The other day, I was sitting in our sunroom watching a video interview with Simon Sinek, who I absolutely love. If you aren’t familiar with Simon’s work, there are a ton of terrific videos on his YouTube channel—I might start with Why is Your Origin Story or Be the Idiot—and I can’t recommend his book, Start With Why, highly enough. It’s a deceptively simple question that I think many of us have a hard time answering when it comes to talking about the things we make or want to make. Anyway, I was watching this video and in it Simon was telling a story about Phil Knight, the co-founder of Nike. Basically, using running as a metaphor, Phil was illustrating the meaning behind their famous “JUST DO IT" slogan and how it has nothing to do with winning and everything to do with trying. As Simon said, “when Nike is at their best, they celebrate the ones who do, not the ones who win.” When the video finished, Adrianne, who was sitting at her computer across the room, asked, "do you know about the knowing-doing gap?” “No,” I responded. “What’s that?” She spent the next few minutes explaining it to me and encouraged me to go do some reading about it online, which I did and, wow, what an eye opener.
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MUSICMusic For Workplaces by Jeffery Saddoris
Over the past month or so, I’ve been seeing a lot of Quentin Tarantino clips pop up in my YouTube feed because about a month ago, I clicked on a video of Quentin being interviewed by Charlie Rose. When it finished, the algorithm showed me another, which I also clicked on. Since the algorithm got what it wanted, it started showing me more clips and occasionally I would click, and here we are a month or so later with me having watched about a dozen clips and interviews with Quentin Tarantino. Full disclosure, I like some of Tarantino’s movies, but it’s his approach to making movies that I find fascinating. Recently he was quoted as saying that Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was his best movie, to which someone on Twitter almost immediately replied “He’s wrong. It was Pulp Fiction.” I can’t say I disagree. But regardless of what you or I think of any of his movies, he makes exactly what he wants to see and if we don’t like it, that’s on us, not him. He was very clear about that fact in one of the interviews I watched. The interviewer asked him whether he had an audience in mind when he made his movies. Almost without skipping a beat, Quentin responded, “Yeah, me. I’m the audience.”
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In this episode, we’re talking about making the work that means the most to us as the maker and how sometimes, we need to take a step back in order to see it. We also talk about a terrific new documentary about the visual effects wizards at Industrial Light & Magic.
LINKSTom Jones Tiny Desk Concert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qfw6pon9tA
Joshua Jackson Modern Paradox: https://www.joshkjack.com/modern-paradox
David Carson (TED Talk): https://www.ted.com/talks/david_carson_design_and_discovery
Chris Ashworth: https://ashworth.work
Ray Gun magazine: https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/ray-gun-music-style-magazine/
Light and Magic: https://disneyplusoriginals.disney.com/show/light-and-magic
Young Sherlock Holmes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOsxXi-tu_U
Water tendril for Abyss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAFIUuFRkBA
John Carpenter's The Thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ftmr17M-a4
Matte paintings in Star Wars https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/01/the-amazing-matte-paintings-from-star-warsand-their-creators/
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist
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When we moved into our house in 2016, I told Adrianne how much I couldn’t wait to convert two of the downstairs spaces into studios. “Day one,” I told her. As is often the case with home projects, things don’t always go to plan and day one is now year six and the spaces, while functional, still aren’t done.
LINKS
https://blogstatic.io/
https://transistor.fm/
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In this episode, we’re continuing to talk about living a creative life without allowing the algorithm dictate what you see and, more importantly, what you make. We also talk about the often repetitive nature of storytelling in cinema and cite a few exceptions.
LINKSCasey Neistat
AIAIAI Headphones
Adam Savage - Golden Book of Amun-Ra
Propstore Auction
The Mummy (Trailer)
Amazon Rings of Power
Nerd of the Rings
Illustrated Silmarillion
The Peripheral (IMDb)
Under the Banner of Heaven (IMDb)
Marc Maron Andrew Garfield
Scandinavian Dramas (IMDb)
Joseph Campbell
The Revenant
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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The other day, for the first five or so minutes of one of our daily live walk and talks though the forest, I spoke what may have been the most coherent and compelling rant-slash-sermon I’ve ever done but, for some reason, my mic wasn’t working on my phone and none of it went out to the listeners.
LINKS
Making Waves
The Sound of 007
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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about the importance of finding your own creative voice and producing the work you want to see in the world, regardless of what you think an audience wants to see from you.
LINKSRadiolab
This American Life
Serial
Adnan Syed is Free
My paintings
Marshall Mathers
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about what we can do when it’s time to take a step back to regroup and/or refocus, either on our own or with the help of a professional. Plus, this is the last weekly episode of Deep Natter for a while as each of us takes time to get other projects underway.
LINKSIzotope RX10
The OG App on the App Store
Ad-free Instagram client ‘OG App’ taken down, and not by Meta
10 Reasons Vero is Slapping Instagram (w/ Peter McKinnon)
Vero is Worse Than Instagram
Sean Tucker: Artists Should be Competitive
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You can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about what we can do when it’s time to take a step back to regroup and/or refocus, either on our own or with the help of a professional. Plus, this is the last weekly episode of Deep Natter for a while as each of us takes time to get other projects underway.
LINKSIzotope RX10
The OG App on the App Store
Ad-free Instagram client ‘OG App’ taken down, and not by Meta
10 Reasons Vero is Slapping Instagram (w/ Peter McKinnon)
Vero is Worse Than Instagram
Sean Tucker: Artists Should be Competitive
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
You can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.
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SUPPORTLeave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.
MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist
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Full disclosure, there are parts of this episode where Sean and I get a little heavy. There are simply so many things going on in the world that it can sometimes feel overwhelming, leaving us really struggling with what to do and wondering which way to turn. We also talk about the renewed interest in Vero as a potential alternative to Instagram for photographers, especially in light of some of the recent changes on Instagram that prioritize reels over images. I think it’s an interesting conversation all around and I hope you enjoy it.
LINKSZencastr
Riverside.fm
Ted Gioia
Kenny Gioia
Samuel Pepys Diary
The Rest is Politics podcast
Elon Musk’s Neuralink
Ken Follet
Ben Horne YouTube
Vero
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
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YouTube: Sean Tucker
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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Full disclosure, there are parts of this episode where Sean and I get a little heavy. There are simply so many things going on in the world that it can sometimes feel overwhelming, leaving us really struggling with what to do and wondering which way to turn. We also talk about the renewed interest in Vero as a potential alternative to Instagram for photographers, especially in light of some of the recent changes on Instagram that prioritize reels over images. I think it’s an interesting conversation all around and I hope you enjoy it.
LINKSZencastr
Riverside.fm
Ted Gioia
Kenny Gioia
Samuel Pepys Diary
The Rest is Politics podcast
Elon Musk’s Neuralink
Ken Follet
Ben Horne YouTube
Vero
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
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You can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist
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Full disclosure, there are parts of this episode where Sean and I get a little heavy. There are simply so many things going on in the world that it can sometimes feel overwhelming, leaving us really struggling with what to do and wondering which way to turn. We also talk about the renewed interest in Vero as a potential alternative to Instagram for photographers, especially in light of some of the recent changes on Instagram that prioritize reels over images. I think it’s an interesting conversation all around and I hope you enjoy it.
LINKSZencastr
Riverside.fm
Ted Gioia
Kenny Gioia
Samuel Pepys Diary
The Rest is Politics podcast
Elon Musk’s Neuralink
Ken Follet
Ben Horne YouTube
Vero
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
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You can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist
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Full disclosure, there are parts of this episode where Sean and I get a little heavy. There are simply so many things going on in the world that it can sometimes feel overwhelming, leaving us really struggling with what to do and wondering which way to turn. We also talk about the renewed interest in Vero as a potential alternative to Instagram for photographers, especially in light of some of the recent changes on Instagram that prioritize reels over images. I think it’s an interesting conversation all around and I hope you enjoy it.
LINKSZencastr
Riverside.fm
Ted Gioia
Kenny Gioia
Samuel Pepys Diary
The Rest is Politics podcast
Elon Musk’s Neuralink
Ken Follet
Ben Horne YouTube
Vero
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
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You can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist
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Full disclosure, there are parts of this episode where Sean and I get a little heavy. There are simply so many things going on in the world that it can sometimes feel overwhelming, leaving us really struggling with what to do and wondering which way to turn. We also talk about the renewed interest in Vero as a potential alternative to Instagram for photographers, especially in light of some of the recent changes on Instagram that prioritize reels over images. I think it’s an interesting conversation all around and I hope you enjoy it.
LINKSZencastr
Riverside.fm
Ted Gioia
Kenny Gioia
Samuel Pepys Diary
The Rest is Politics podcast
Elon Musk’s Neuralink
Ken Follet
Ben Horne YouTube
Vero
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
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You can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist
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Full disclosure, there are parts of this episode where Sean and I get a little heavy. There are simply so many things going on in the world that it can sometimes feel overwhelming, leaving us really struggling with what to do and wondering which way to turn. We also talk about the renewed interest in Vero as a potential alternative to Instagram for photographers, especially in light of some of the recent changes on Instagram that prioritize reels over images. I think it’s an interesting conversation all around and I hope you enjoy it.
LINKSZencastr
Riverside.fm
Ted Gioia
Kenny Gioia
Samuel Pepys Diary
The Rest is Politics podcast
Elon Musk’s Neuralink
Ken Follet
Ben Horne YouTube
Vero
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
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Being creative is hard. Really hard. Actually, let me rephrase that. Being creative isn’t so bad. In fact, if I’m honest about it, the being comes pretty easily for me. As my wife and most of my friends will attest, I have ideas all the time, sometimes great ideas. The ideas themselves aren’t the problem. It’s what to do with them that’s the problem. The doing is where I get stuck, specifically on the business side of the doing. LINKSBen Proudfoot (Twitter)
The Greatest Chef in the World
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Being creative is hard. Really hard. Actually, let me rephrase that. Being creative isn’t so bad. In fact, if I’m honest about it, the being comes pretty easily for me. As my wife and most of my friends will attest, I have ideas all the time, sometimes great ideas. The ideas themselves aren’t the problem. It’s what to do with them that’s the problem. The doing is where I get stuck, specifically on the business side of the doing. LINKSBen Proudfoot (Twitter)
The Greatest Chef in the World
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Being creative is hard. Really hard. Actually, let me rephrase that. Being creative isn’t so bad. In fact, if I’m honest about it, the being comes pretty easily for me. As my wife and most of my friends will attest, I have ideas all the time, sometimes great ideas. The ideas themselves aren’t the problem. It’s what to do with them that’s the problem. The doing is where I get stuck, specifically on the business side of the doing. LINKSBen Proudfoot (Twitter)
The Greatest Chef in the World
CONNECT WITH MEWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
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Being creative is hard. Really hard. Actually, let me rephrase that. Being creative isn’t so bad. In fact, if I’m honest about it, the being comes pretty easily for me. As my wife and most of my friends will attest, I have ideas all the time, sometimes great ideas. The ideas themselves aren’t the problem. It’s what to do with them that’s the problem. The doing is where I get stuck, specifically on the business side of the doing. LINKSBen Proudfoot (Twitter)
The Greatest Chef in the World
CONNECT WITH MEWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
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Failure is something that virtually every creative has faced at some point. In this episode, Sean and I unpack some of the differences between real and perceived failure, and some ways we can respond to each of them without simply giving up. We also talk about the importance of trusting our skills and abilities, especially when we might feel like we’re in over our heads.
LINKSDavid Bowie - China Girl
Spielberg documentary
The Fablemans
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
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Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about pivoting when a project just isn’t taking off or going in the direction we want it to. Sean also shares some thoughts on revisiting and possibly even updating a past project, inspired in part by conversations he’s had with people in his photographic community.
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
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YouTube: Sean Tucker
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In this episode, Sean and I geek out a little over lighting and talk a bit about how shallow depth of field can often be the low hanging fruit in photography. We also talk about a few examples of our favorite film editing that refuses to simply hold the audience by the hand to explain everything that’s happening in the narrative.
LINKS24mm: Focal Length Series
35mm: Focal Length Series
50mm: Focal Length Series
85mm: Focal Length Series
Baz Luhrmann’s Elvis
Edge of Tomorrow
Pharrell Williams - Freedom
13 Minutes to the Moon
Iteration 65: When the Teacher Disappears
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode, Sean and I geek out a little over lighting and talk a bit about how shallow depth of field can often be the low hanging fruit in photography. We also talk about a few examples of our favorite film editing that refuses to simply hold the audience by the hand to explain everything that’s happening in the narrative.
LINKS24mm: Focal Length Series
35mm: Focal Length Series
50mm: Focal Length Series
85mm: Focal Length Series
Baz Luhrmann’s Elvis
Edge of Tomorrow
Pharrell Williams - Freedom
13 Minutes to the Moon
Iteration 65: When the Teacher Disappears
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
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In this episode, Sean and I geek out a little over lighting and talk a bit about how shallow depth of field can often be the low hanging fruit in photography. We also talk about a few examples of our favorite film editing that refuses to simply hold the audience by the hand to explain everything that’s happening in the narrative.
LINKS24mm: Focal Length Series
35mm: Focal Length Series
50mm: Focal Length Series
85mm: Focal Length Series
Baz Luhrmann’s Elvis
Edge of Tomorrow
Pharrell Williams - Freedom
13 Minutes to the Moon
Iteration 65: When the Teacher Disappears
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
You can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode, Sean and I geek out a little over lighting and talk a bit about how shallow depth of field can often be the low hanging fruit in photography. We also talk about a few examples of our favorite film editing that refuses to simply hold the audience by the hand to explain everything that’s happening in the narrative.
LINKS24mm: Focal Length Series
35mm: Focal Length Series
50mm: Focal Length Series
85mm: Focal Length Series
Baz Luhrmann’s Elvis
Edge of Tomorrow
Pharrell Williams - Freedom
13 Minutes to the Moon
Iteration 65: When the Teacher Disappears
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode, on the back of Sean’s recent meetup in London, we’re talking about the social energy it often requires for introverts to engage with other people and the toll simply being out in the world can sometimes take. We also talk about the importance of producing work that allows an audience to meet and engage with both the maker and the work where they are.
LINKSThe Warhol Diaries
Stuart Waplington
Deep Natter w/Ben Horne
Simon BaxterOfficial site of Stephen Fry
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In this episode, on the back of Sean’s recent meetup in London, we’re talking about the social energy it often requires for introverts to engage with other people and the toll simply being out in the world can sometimes take. We also talk about the importance of producing work that allows an audience to meet and engage with both the maker and the work where they are.
LINKSThe Warhol Diaries
Stuart Waplington
Deep Natter w/Ben Horne
Simon BaxterOfficial site of Stephen Fry
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode, on the back of Sean’s recent meetup in London, we’re talking about the social energy it often requires for introverts to engage with other people and the toll simply being out in the world can sometimes take. We also talk about the importance of producing work that allows an audience to meet and engage with both the maker and the work where they are.
LINKSThe Warhol Diaries
Stuart Waplington
Deep Natter w/Ben Horne
Simon BaxterOfficial site of Stephen Fry
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode, on the back of Sean’s recent meetup in London, we’re talking about the social energy it often requires for introverts to engage with other people and the toll simply being out in the world can sometimes take. We also talk about the importance of producing work that allows an audience to meet and engage with both the maker and the work where they are.
LINKSThe Warhol Diaries
Stuart Waplington
Deep Natter w/Ben Horne
Simon BaxterOfficial site of Stephen Fry
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode, I’m joined by large format landscape photographer Ben Horne and we’re talking about some of the challenges and considerations around creating products for an audience and why print still and maybe always will be better than looking at work on a screen.
LINKSDaniel Milnor: https://shifter.media
Tyndell: https://www.tyndellphotographic.com
Andrew Baruffi: https://www.andrewbaruffiphoto.com
Mixam: https://mixam.co.uk
Daido Tokyo: https://www.moriyamadaido.com/en/bibliography/
CONNECT WITH BENWebsite: https://benhorne.com
Twitter: @benhorne
Instagram: @benhorne
YouTube: Ben Horne
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Last week, I took the train into DC to visit the National Gallery of Art, which is by far one of my favorite places in the city. Regardless of the show or exhibition, I always come home energized and inspired. Sometimes, I’ll even go down just to sit in the “Rothko Room” for an hour — and I know the official name is Tower 1 of the East Building, but I think Rothko Room sounds much more poetic. On this particular trip, I was there to see The Double, a show that a friend who works at the gallery called “life changing” — which is saying something considering she’s one of the top paper conservators in the world and has seen some pretty incredible work over the course of her career. The show really is fantastic and features work by some of my favorite artists, including Frank Stella and Robert Rauschenberg; and it begins with a pair of American flags by Jasper Johns displayed opposite Double America by Glenn Ligon.
LINKS
National Gallery of Art
Rothko Room
The DoubleDouble AmericaRothko: The Color Field PaintingsEpisode 59 of Deep Natter
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Last week, I took the train into DC to visit the National Gallery of Art, which is by far one of my favorite places in the city. Regardless of the show or exhibition, I always come home energized and inspired. Sometimes, I’ll even go down just to sit in the “Rothko Room” for an hour — and I know the official name is Tower 1 of the East Building, but I think Rothko Room sounds much more poetic. On this particular trip, I was there to see The Double, a show that a friend who works at the gallery called “life changing” — which is saying something considering she’s one of the top paper conservators in the world and has seen some pretty incredible work over the course of her career. The show really is fantastic and features work by some of my favorite artists, including Frank Stella and Robert Rauschenberg; and it begins with a pair of American flags by Jasper Johns displayed opposite Double America by Glenn Ligon.
LINKS
National Gallery of Art
Rothko Room
The DoubleDouble AmericaRothko: The Color Field PaintingsEpisode 59 of Deep Natter
CONNECT WITH MEWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
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In this episode, Sean finds out he’s got scammers posing as him online and we have a fascinating conversation about a new AI called MidJourney that has artists and photographers scrambling to figure out how and why to use it.
LINKSKitboga
Jim Browning
Scott Detwiler
MidJourney AI
Crow images
Hateful Eight 70mm
Roger Deakins Digital vs Film
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
You can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode, Sean gives me some valuable advice for starting my own YouTube channel, which leads into a terrific discussion around the importance of identifying what motivates us to make. Plus, we gush a little about Justin Hawkins.
LINKSShot Deck
Joey L
Annie Leibovitz photographing Keith Richards
Simon Baxter
Joe Cornish
MidJourney
Justin Hawkins Rides Again
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
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YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode, Friend of the Show Maarten Rots joins me from his mobile studio in the Netherlands to talk about how a space can have an affect on what kind of work we produce in it. We also talk about the difficulty in breaking out of creative habits and the challenge of when to take our work in a different direction.
CONNECT WITH MAARTENWebsite: https://www.maartenrots.nl
March & Rock magazine: March & Rock magazine
Instagram: @maartenrots
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
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Substack: https://jefferysaddoris.substack.com
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The other day, a friend of mine texted me a link to a podcast, along with a single sentence that read, “If I could be a small fraction of the photographer Sally Mann is, it would really be something.” Now, this friend is a terrific photographer but, like so many of us, he sometimes gets stuck in the rut of comparison. I get it. I really do. Sally Mann is an iconic photographer, but one of the most challenging—and I think harmful—things we can do to ourselves as artists is to unreasonably compare ourselves and our work to others.
Question:Do you compare yourself or your work to others? If so, how does it affect the work you make?
LINKS
Sally Mann : https://www.sallymann.com/
Robert Rauschenberg: https://www.wikiart.org/en/robert-rauschenberg
David Carson: http://www.davidcarsondesign.com/
Shepard Fairey: https://obeygiant.com/
Bastille: https://www.bastillebastille.com/
Quarter Past Midnight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1VzzNbfPaM
John Dos Passos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dos_Passos
Nick Hornby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Hornby
The Paris Review recently posted (or, maybe re-posted) a fantastic interview with the great James Baldwin. In it, he talks about what inspired him to became a writer, why he left America for Paris, and some of his inspirations. If you aren’t familiar with James Baldwin, I recommend his novel The Fire Next Time or I Am Not Your Negro, which is a documentary based on his unfinished novel, Remember This House.
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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about how some of the evolutions in technology will impact the way we make art and, in some cases, blur the line of creativity between humans and machines. We also trade links to some of the things each of us has found interesting over the past week or so.
LINKSDjo - Official Website
Justin Hawkins Rides Again
Guess the Lighting (via FStoppers)
Yousuf Karsh portrait of Hemingway
George Hurrell
Audrey Hepburn by Jack Cardiff
Platon portrait of President Clinton
Baumgartner Restoration
Raul Cantu
Joshua Davis Studios
Welcome to Processing!
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
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MUSICHigh Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode, Sean and I have an honest and, at times, revealing discussion around how comparing our work to others can often lead to creative paralysis. We also talk about the importance of finding an accountability buddy who can give us the support and feedback we need—whether it’s positive or negative—that can really help us move forward.
LINKSDalton Campbell on Process Driven
Alex Webb: The Suffering of Light
Gregory Crewdson Substack
Fan Ho - via Independent Photographer
Alec Soth Masterclass on Magnum
Practicing the Presence of God by Brother Lawrence
CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
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We’re a little all over the place in this episode, from Kate Bush and Stranger Things to Top Gun: Maverick, to the importance of the creative journey and how sharing the what and the how often yields greater fruit than simply playing our processes close to the vest.
LINKSHenry Thomas’ ET Audition - YouTube
Alexander Shaia
Maria Lax
Maria Lax on Process Driven
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For the past several months, I found myself feeling more and more overwhelmed by my own expectations around the work I was producing. I started feeling the weight of some of the narratives in the work—greed, power, corruption, the failure of capitalism—a realization prompted in part by a conversation with my stepmother who, when looking at a recent painting of mine simply responded, “Wow. That’s really dark, honey.” Being so close to the work hadn’t really allowed me to see it for what it was becoming, but taking a step back pulled it into very sharp focus. The subject matter, as well as the supporting research required to make it, was really starting to get to me.
LINKS
Station Eleven on HBO Max
Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel
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Do you ever get the feeling that the world is falling apart? Me too, but in this episode, Sean and I discuss how feelings aren’t facts and just because the bad stuff is often easier to believe doesn’t make it true. Plus, we talk about expectations and how needing to know the outcome of a project often keeps us from ever beginning.
LINKSRichard Rohr — Growing Up Men | The On Being Project
Sapiens by Yuval Harari
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In this episode, Sean is back and shares some of his thoughts and takeaways from his recent creative retreat in Tuscany. Also, I finally finished The Last of Us 2, which we’ve wanted to talk about literally for years. I think it’s safe to say that for each of us, not only was it an incredible gaming experience, but also an example of how great storytelling and well-paced narrative can transcend mediums.
LINKSThe Meaning in the Making
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Last week, I was joined by Maarten Rots for a terrific conversation around his approach to creativity. As is often the case when talking about the creative process, there’s always more to unpack so I asked Maarten if he’d be willing to come back to continue the conversation. In this episode, while in some ways we’re picking up where we left off, we also go in some different directions, specifically around giving ourselves permission to play and being okay when a project goes somewhere we never intended.
LINKSDo the Work! by Steven Pressfield
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This is episode 50 of Deep Natter and today we’ve got a little treat for you. If you’re a regular listener, you’ve undoubtedly heard the name Maarten Rots. He’s someone that Sean and I have mentioned a number of times on the show, usually in reference to how creative he is. Back in 2020, Sean even did a video about him He’s an artist in every sense of the word and in this episode, Maarten and I are talking about his approach to creativity which really centers around self-care and wellness. It’s a terrific conversation that I’m sure you’re going to enjoy.
LINKSDoes Every Photograph have to Tell a Story? (feat. Maarten Rots)
The Practice by Seth Godin
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One of the most difficult things about being a freelance creative is that you’re basically always on the clock. Sure, you can wait for inspiration to strike, but in my experience, you’ll end up waiting more than making. As Chuck Close famously said, “Inspiration is for amateurs. The rest of us just show up and get to work.” While I understand what he’s saying, and may even agree with it to an extent, sometimes it’s not that easy. I think there’s a middle ground where instead of simply waiting for inspiration to strike, we can think about the purpose and intention we want to bring to our work before embarking on the uncertain journey of making it.
LINKS
Maarten Rots
The Practiceby Seth Godin
Creativity, Inc.by Ed Catmull
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Last week, I was talking to Maarten Rots—who you’ve heard us mention several times on the show—and I was asking him how he manages to stay so creative. His answer not only surprised me, but it inspired me to adopt a similar approach to my own creativity in an experiment for the month of June. Talking it through with Sean launched us into a terrific discussion around making and self-care and, what he calls, “turning down the bullying boss.”
LINKSThe Meaning in the Making
Carl Jung
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A few days ago, I came across a post that painted a pretty grim portrait of our collective futures—and here’s the thing…I wasn’t surprised by it at all. If I’m being honest, it’s something that I often feel anyway. When I brought it up to Sean, he was quick to point out that the way we feel is often just that, a feeling, not a fact. In this especially deep natter, we unpack happiness, negativity bias, and why for many of us, the bad stuff is often easier to believe.
LINKSIs Happiness a Choice?
Vice article: We’re Doomed
Steven Pinker: Enlightenment Now
Viktor Frankl: Man’s Search for Meaning
Negativity bias
Rick Hanson (velcro/teflon)
Confirmation bias
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I was texting with one of my oldest friends recently after she got back from a trip to Italy and at one point in the conversation, she asked whether I was happy. “I’m grateful, but I don’t think I’m happy,” I responded. “And maybe that’s just the way I’m wired. I’m not generally unhappy either, although there are moments of each. It’s just not consistent.” There were a few moments of onscreen silence and she came back with, “Maybe don’t ask yourself if you’re happy (and neither will I—sorry!) and just be. Did you ever read Siddhartha?”
LINKSSiddhartha
Enneagram
The Book of Joy: Lasting Happiness in a Changing World
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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about moving forward on new projects and how for each of us, the success of those projects relies heavily not on simple tricks but in a deeper connection to technique and narrative. We also talk about dealing with the perceived failure anytime we venture too far outside of our creative comfort zones.
LINKSMasterclass Werner Herzog
Process Driven: Jack Lowe (Part One)
Process Driven: Jack Lowe (Part Two)
Joey L.
Disney Propaganda
Looney Tunes Propaganda
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In this episode, Sean and I are using a discussion around the visual effects of The Batman as a springboard to talk about tools. We also unpack some of the differences in how we approach the research and selection process and how for each of us, a big part of any purchase revolves around worth and the patterns of our parents.
LINKSEwan McGregor and the green screen lizard
The Making Of The Batman | The Batman | HBO Max
Oblivion Featurette: The Sky Tower
Creating Dramatic Self Portraits (feat. Fiona Lark)
Street Photography with Film: Kodak Tri-X (feat. Mavis CW)
Creating Mood and Mystery in your Street Photography (feat. Joshua K Jackson)
The 3 Best Pro-Mist Filters for Creating Dreamy Cinematic Looks
Landscape & Woodland Photography by Simon Baxter
Peter McKinnon Variable ND Filter by PolarPro
RetroSupply Co – Digital Art Brushes & Textures for Illustrators
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After receiving an email from my web host informing me that they would be closing down and I was to remove my files and secure hosting elsewhere “ASAP” (no closure date was given), I went into a bit of a panic.
QUESTION
Are there recurring distractions—creative or otherwise—that you can easily resolve or take out of your path that might give you more time or better focus?
A FEW EXAMPLES
1. Remove distracting apps from your phone.
2. Schedule time for ideation or creative thinking.
3. Consider whether you can establish a new habit or pattern to take a regular/daily but unimportant decision off your plate.
LINKSCarrd
Iterations on Substack
Photography by the Letter
Attention!: The Power of Simple Decisions in a Distracted World
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I few nights ago, I got to go see Jacob Collier, who I was introduced to by Sean. If you’ve never heard of him or heard his music, he’s an absolute genius who is able to play pop, jazz, classical, you name it, and his fans include Quincy Jones, Herbie Hancock, and Hans Zimmer. In this episode, we’re talking about not just Jacob and his music, but some of the things we can take from him and apply to our own art making. Plus, as we teased in the last episode, we’re talking about some of our favorite album cover art.
LINKSBehind the Mac: Skywalker Sound
Jacob Collier | Home
Hideaway - Jacob Collier
Jacob Collier’s Harmonizer
The Room Where it Happens
The Harpejji
Hugh Syme Studio
Reid Miles
Storm Studios Design
Roger Dean
Vaughan Oliver
Mouse Studios
David Smith
The Making of Born & Raised
Destroyer | KISS Wiki | Fandom
Cey Adams | Visual Artist
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In this episode, we’re talking about changing up the how and the why of what we do creatively by getting away from chasing likes and follows and putting more energy into creating community and engagement. Plus, a voice message from a listener inspires a conversation around a specific kind of art.
LINKSDaniel Milnor
Frank Maddocks
BBQ Interview Series - Kevin’s BBQ Joints on Apple Podcasts
Photography by the Letter
The Midnight Miracle on Luminary
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Let me ask you something. Do process and technique really matter? I mean in the grand scheme of making art, does it matter what tools or what techniques an artist uses to create their work as long as the end product is compelling or pleasing to look at or moves us in some way? Well, in this episode, that’s exactly what Sean and I are talking about.
LINKSTo Edit or Not to Edit Your Photography?
Faking It: Manipulated Photography Before Photoshop
William Notman
Cottingley Fairies
Fan Ho
Jerry Uelsmann
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Terms like “icon” and “legend” get thrown around pretty casually these days, but in the case of photographer Joe McNally, they are not only absolutely appropriate but also well-deserved. He’s shot for some of the most prestigious magazines and clients in the world, including TIME, Newsweek, LIFE, Sports Illustrated, New York, and National Geographic. His work has earned him dozens of awards, including the first Alfred Eisenstaedt Award for Journalistic Impact. He’s a best-selling author and has recently released his newest book The Real Deal: Field Notes From the Life of a Working Photographer. He’s also humble, funny, and tells terrific stories and I am so grateful to have had the chance to sit down with him for a bit. Here’s my conversation with photographer, director, author, storyteller, and Nikon Ambassador, Joe McNally.
LINKSSports Illustrated
Time
Newsweek
National Geographic
Gregory Heisler
Monroe Gallery Santa Fe
Emory Kristof
Nikon D1x
Nikon Z9
Gordon Parks Foundation (Instagram)
Sally Mann: Collodion and the Angel of Uncertainty
W. Eugene Smith - Nurse, Midwife
W. Eugene Smith - Country Doctor
W. Eugene Smith - Spanish Village
Larry Burrows - The Flight of Yankee Papa 13
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MUSICPlease Listen Carefully by Jahzzar
Normalize by Stanley Gurvich
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How would you describe yourself? What are you interested in, not in terms of taking pictures or painting or writing, but what subjects really light you up? That’s what Sean and I are talking about in this episode. Plus, we dive a little deeper into the Enneagram and take a look at how we’re wired, and whether or not there’s anything we can do about it.
LINKSEnneagram
Visual Acoustics (via IMDb)
A new Perspective by Donald Byrd (via Discogs)
The Cover Art of Blue Note Records
Maurice Binder (via Art of the Title)
Mastery by Robert Greene
The Book of Joy
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This episode might seem like a bit of a departure, but I don’t really think that it is. Sean and I started out talking about the Morning Pages challenge from last week’s episode, which then led us down a rabbit hole into a larger discussion around science and God and how the search for truth is really at the core of both of them. I think it was a terrific conversation and I hope you enjoy it.
LINKS
Enneagram
Myers & Briggs
Ricky Gervais and Stephen Colbert on God
Rob Bell
Richard Rohr
Brian McLaren - A Generous Orthodoxy
Donald Miller - Blue Like Jazz
NT Wright - Simply Jesus
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Recently, the closing of my former web host inspired Sean and I to take a step back from our respective websites — and it’s allowed each of us to see the work we do and, maybe more interestingly, the work we share in a different light. Also, Sean reveals an exciting new direction that his life will be taking in the near future.
LINKS
Carrd
Andy Adams
CJ Chilvers
Squarespace Wells template
Sean’s retreat in June
Morning pages
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In this episode, Sean and I are discussing the role of the personal website in an age of dwindling attention spans and the rise of social media. Is the Squarespace site or the Wordpress blog still as important and relevant as it once was or have people left the websites behind in favor of platforms that are seen more as virtual communities of like minded visitors?
LINKS
Medium
Substack
Ghost
Carrd
MKBHD
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In this episode, what happens when one of your favorite artists puts out work that you don’t really like? Do you dismiss it as a creative misstep or do you try to look at it from a different perspective, trusting that they knew exactly what they wanted to release and not “getting it” is on you, not them?
LINKS
Nerd Writer
Neale James (Photography Daily)
Wong Notes podcast John Mayer
John Mayer
Yebba covering The Age of Worry
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In this episode, Sean and I talk about expectations around the things we make and the imaginary bars we set for ourselves which are often not only beyond our control but, in the grand scheme of things, they’re just not accurate measures of our worth. Plus how would you react if your next project was a monster success?
LINKS
Tascam Mixcast 4 Review
Dan Baker documentary
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In this episode, a conversation about gear leads to a discussion around some of the challenges of working with brands or services while still maintaining your creative integrity. We also talk about some of the musicians who have recently sold their back catalogs for enormous sums of money and where NFTs might fit into all of this.
LINKS
Sony ZV1 (techradar)
Ricoh GR IIIx
Samuel Lintaro
Sean’s four images (IG)
James Veitch
Filmic Pro
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In this episode, we’re talking about control and fear, both in terms of how they are related to one an other and how they can individually and collectively keep us from putting out new work.
LINKS
Tascam Mixcast 4
Sean’s Fiona Lark Video
Patrice O’Neal
The War of Art
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In this episode, a discussion around birthdays leads to a deeper dive into how limitations can often take our work into unexpected directions. We also talk about mindfulness and Sean offers some powerful advice on how we can be more present not just in our work, but also in our day-to-day lives.
LINKS
Dan Baker
Magnum - Alec Soth
Eckhart Tolle - The Power of Now
Julia Cameron - Morning pages
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One of the themes we keep coming back to on this show is the idea of being seen or heard, and I think for both Sean and myself, that desire is core to who we are as humans. I think that’s one of the reasons social media has become such a big part of the human experience. In this episode, we’re talking about getting ideas out in the world even if it means letting go of them. We also dive a little deeper into what a healthier social media platform might look like, and Sean shares how context is the key to giving better feedback.
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A couple weeks ago, we asked what you’d like to see in a new photo community and in this episode we’re talking about some of your responses and sharing a few of our own. We also dip back into an ongoing discussion around real life creative communities and Sean shares the story of a recent evening he spent with a group of creatives in York at a Pechakucha event.
LINKS
Flickr
100ASA
500px
Fotoblur on Issuu
Sip & Develop
Pechakucha
York Creatives
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In this episode, Sean and I talk about some of the differences in the way we approach creative projects. We also talk about a recent email from Steven Pressfield who suggests that the fear of success has nothing to do with success itself, but in instead all about acceptance.
LINKS
Studs Terkel Archive
Zequenz notebooks
Steven Pressfield’s Writing Wednesdays
The Courage to be Disliked by Ichiro Kishimi
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A new piece of gear for my podcast studio sparks a discussion around control, consistency, and getting outside of our comfort zones in the work we produce. We also talk about what kinds of features and, maybe more importantly, what kind of culture we’d like to see from a new photo sharing platform.
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In this episode, we’re talking some of the ways Covid has changed how we view, experience, and interact with art — specifically the collective or shared experience that can occur seeing movies, music, and other forms of art. We also talk about significant influencers in our lives and the importance of looking for creative inspiration outside of our normal sources — an example of which was a terrific collaboration between Brian Eno and David Byrne.
LINKS
Where Good Ideas Come From (TED Talk)
Where Good Ideas Come From (Amazon)
Exaptation
Archaeopteryx
Brian Eno & David Byrne – My Life in the Bush of Ghosts (via Pitchfork)
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In this episode, we’re talking about the importance of physical spaces and how they can influence how and even what we make. We also take the plunge into talking a little about NFTs, which hopefully will inspire not only listener interaction, but also more conversations in the future.
LINKS
Damascus Station
Secrets & Spies Podcast
The Prosperity Gospel
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If you were an On Taking Pictures listener, you probably knowhow my conversations with Bill Wadman go. If this is your first one, you’re in for a treat. As is often the case when we talk, the conversation follows more than a few rabbit holes, from how podcasting has changed since we started OTP in 2012, to watching the Beatles demystifying creativity, to how it feels to see home movies of our parents who were taken from us way too soon, and a bunch more. It’s another terrific conversation and I hope you enjoy it.
LINKS
The Rest is History
Dominion by Tom Holland
The Beatles Get Back
No Such Thing as a Fish
The Hedonic Treadmill (Wikipedia)
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Five to One by Steve Poloni
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In this episode, Sean and I talk a bit about the past year and what we’re each looking forward to in 2022, which is deeper meaning and connection in the work we produce. For Sean, that means getting back to portraiture, both as a maker and as an educator. For me, it means recording more conversations and signal boosting interesting stories, regardless of whether or not those stories fall under the category of Creativity.
LINKS
Stephen Fry
Amaran 60d LED lights
Start with Why
The War of Art
The Artists Way
The Meaning in the Making
Kevin Kelley’s 1000 true fans
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In this episode, we talk a about collaboration and some of the difficulties around bringing in another pair of eyes or another set of hands to help bring our vision to life. And an email from friend of the show Maarten Rots sparks a conversation about the importance of objects and the things we hold dear.
LINKS
Daniel Milnor
Maarten Rots
Ton Grote
Lee John Phillips
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In this episode, we get our very first voice memo from a listener and it’s a terrific question around something that I think most, if not all, of us have struggled with at one point or another, and that’s imposter syndrome. It’s a big question and I hope we tackle at least part of it in a way that resonates with you.
LINKS
Dunning-Kruger Effect (Wikipedia)
Dunning-Kruger Effect (Verywell Mind)
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I want to take just a minute to thank you — for listening, yes, but especially since episode 19 so many of you have written in to share some of the things that you are going through, and that’s really why we put these out – in the hope that they will connect and resonate with you and let you know that you aren’t alone.
I’d also like to thank you for the outpouring of support since I added the donate button to my website. I can’t tell you how much it means to me and one of the unexpected responses is the burst of creative energy I’m feeling on the back of it. It inspires me to want to do more of what I’m already doing, so thank you.
This episode started with me asking Sean about how he edits his videos and turned into a larger conversation about how connecting with an audience is such a key component to why we do what we do.
LINKS
Pete Holmes
Ibarionex
Neale James
The Beatles – Get Back
Radiolab
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Normalize by Stanley Gurvich
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In this episode, we begin with a conversation around aesthetics in art and how aesthetics sometimes gets overlooked or even dismissed in favor of narrative. We also talk about some of the tolls the pandemic has taken on creativity and how for so many people it seems to have been the catalyst for massive change in their lives.
LINKS
Sally Mann – Vinculum
Maarten Rots w/Sean Tucker
Fan Ho
Ray Metzger (via Getty)
Start With Why
Dorothy Simpson Krause
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In this episode, we’re talking about the importance of ritual in making and how various rituals — both conscious and subconscious — appear in our lives. We also talk about the value of creating the mental space for the actual doing and how carving out quiet time can help our creativity to find its way into the world.
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Welcome to Deep Natter. This week, we’re talking about recognizing our own good, seeing patterns in the creative chaos of work that we make, and some absolutely beautiful thoughts from Sean around connectivity and meaning.
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MUSIC
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Last week, we released a show that seems to be resonating with quite a few of you. In fact, we’ve received more feedback on that episode than any other episode we’ve done. I think it’s because so many of us are in the same place with trying to figure out where what we make fits, how to get it out there in front of people, and if we’re lucky, make a little money from it. This week is sort of a continuation of last week’s conversation, but we begin with a little chat about gear.
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This episode wasn’t meant to be an episode. It started as one of our pre-show chats — Sean and I just talking before we jumped into what we had actually planned to talk about, which now completely escapes me. But as it’s happened so many times before when we talk, we went off on a tangent, and this time it was a deep one around worth and value and the often paralyzing fear of showing ourselves to the world through the things we make.
LINKS
Halston (Netflix): https://www.netflix.com/title/80245103
Halston Documentary (Prime Video): https://www.amazon.com/Halston-Tavi-Gevinson/dp/B08CS6D1ZN
Obey Giant: https://obeygiant.com/
Andy Warhol's Marilyn Diptych: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu9Bm8aw_lI
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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about output, not in terms of what we produce, but how the work I’ve recently dipped my toes into the world of synthesizers, something I’ve been interested in for years but never really pursued. In this episode, Sean and I talk about the importance of pursuing creative interests outside of your “main” pursuits for no other purpose but to, as Sean puts it, always be a beginner at something. We also talk about Tinker Toys, a band called Snarky Puppy, what a good guy Jason Momoa seems to be and a whole lot more.
LINKS
VCV Rack
MicroFreak
Harold Budd
Tangerine Dream
PaprTape
David Carson
Soma Lyra 8
Tinker Toys
Dave Matthews Band #41
Snarky Puppy
Lukas Nelson
Jason Momoa ET clip
Jason Momoa Human Recreational Services
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One of the things I love about talking to Bill Wadman is that even when we don’t talk for a while, the banterand chemistry that was the heart of On Taking Pictures for more than 300 episodes is right there regardless of what we’re talking about. It’s been that way since the first episode and nearly a decade later, it’s still fun to see where we end up.
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Five to One by Steve Poloni
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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about output, not in terms of what we produce, but how the work we make is presented to an audience. For example, are you only sharing your work online, or do you also make prints. Maybe you make photobooks or show your work in galleries. How our work appears out in the world can have a dramatic effect on how compelling it is to a viewer. We also talk about the new Bond film, No Time To Die — specifically the score and how brilliantly Hans Zimmer took one of the most recognizable pieces of music in cinema and made it his own.
LINKS
Genesis Imaging
Hans Zimmer recording No Time to Die
Hanz Zimmer on Interstellar
Mad Max: Black and Chrome
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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about meeting our heroes and how the outcome of those meetings can often affect how we are able to see and connect with the work they make. We also talk about the importance of finding that thing or maybe multiple things that light you up and you do simply for the fun or the joy of it.
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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about a photo essay that raised some interesting questions for each of us, such as how do you respond to an artist’s newer work when it doesn’t hit you the same way their earlier work did? Have they changed or have you? Or is it some of each? And how much should the context of the work matter to how it lands with a viewer?
LINKS
Alec Soth’s Lost in Translation
At Eternity’s Gate
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A few episodes back, Sean and I were talking about social media and Sean mentioned that Ben Horne, who is a terrific large format landscape photographer I spoke to on Process Driven 41, had left Twitter and Instagram and was just focusing on the community he had on YouTube. I reached out to Ben to see if he’d like to come on the show to talk about why he did it and how it’s affected him, both personally and professionally.
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In this episode of Deep Natter, Sean and I are continuing a previous discussion about finding our why around the things we make. Sometimes, it’s easy to lose our way and we end up needing to make a few tweaks or even a hard reset to get us back in the groove.
LINKS
Primordial (Jeff Lemire)
Gideon Falls
Sweet Tooth (Netflix)
Sweet Tooth (Comic)
Monsters (Gareth Edwards)
El Mariachi (Robert Rodriguez)
Midnight Miracle
Process Driven 37 with Jack Lowe
Serial
S-Town
13 Minutes to the Moon
Blackout
Fake Famous on HBO
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High Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode of Deep Natter, one of Sean’s Instagram accounts got hacked, which has us talking about to what degree we’re comfortable relying on social media platforms as the main place to share our work and connect with an audience. Plus, a new HBO Documentary about social media sparks a chat about a growing number of influencers who want little more than for social media to make them famous, even if it’s not real.
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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about owning the things we make. What I mean by that is that we stand behind our art and put our voice, our process, and ourselves first, before we worry about packaging it, branding it, and marketing it to an audience.
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This is actually episode 10.5 or “10 Take Two” of Deep Natter, since we had a little bit of a power outage situation and had to record this week’s show a second time. It actually worked out for the best though, since it gave Sean and me time to think about the subject matter a little more and dive just a bit deeper into discussing it.
LINKS
My Life as a Failed Artist (via Vulture)
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Sean is going to be doing a new project with one of his oldest friends, so in this episode we’re talking about podcasting, both from the side of the listener and also from the perspective of the creator. Plus, Sean shares a bit of the beauty and the complexity of his early life growing up in South Africa.
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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about collaboration finding your voice and to help us illustrate some of this, we’re going to be talking about a terrific HBO documentary from 2017 called Spielberg. And while the film is ostensibly about Spielberg and became one of the greatest directors of all time, largely pulling from his own life experiences, it’s also about the group of filmmakers who came up around him pushing him and each other to go further and be better at the craft they loved.
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Spielberg
Spielberg on Prime Video
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Sean Tucker has just released a new book called The Meaning in the Making. Over twelve chapters, using stories from his own life, as well as references from literature, art, philosophy, and religion, Sean attempts to understand and explain “the why and how behind our human need to create.” I’ve been lucky enough to hear little snippets here and there during the course of its creation, but Sean and I have never really talked about it as a complete piece of work until now. In this conversation, I’m talking to Sean about the process behind writing the book and we begin with what I thought was the most logical and maybe even obvious question: why write a book at all, and why did it have to be this one?
LINKS
The Meaning in The Making
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Vibradrone by Ankori & Ramon
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In this episode, Sean Tucker and I are talking about some of the challenges of bringing focus back from our various social media platforms to our own websites, which in many ways are the only places we have online that allow us to really curate how our work is presented to an audience. We also talk about how much we miss communities and how easy it has become to simply retreat into creative isolation.
The Talented Mr. Ripley
Phantom Thread
Robin Williams’ speech in Good Will Hunting
Werner Herzog Masterclass
The Peregrine
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High Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode, we’re talking about chasing objective good in art making and selling out to please an audience versus making strategic choices to keep an audience engaged with the work we make. We also share a few things you might want to check out to help level up your inspiration.
LINKS
The Rewatchables Podcast
The Game
The Revanent
Barry Lyndon
Shot Deck
National Gallery of Art
Making the Cut
The New Propaganda, vol. 1
Dorothy Simpson Krause
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High Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode, Sean talks about a recent trip to London where he may have had his most productive day of photography ever, which is a pretty bold statement. We also talk about the importance of inspirational friends as well as our shared appreciation for the work of Richard Avedon, Don McCullin, and Sally Mann.
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The other day I was on the phone with Bill Wadman and it didn’t take long before Bill asked “wait, should we be rolling tape on this?” When you’ve recorded 1000 or so hours with someone, the answer is usually yes. I just wish we had been rolling from the beginning, because when Bill called, he asked what I was doing and I said that I was listening to Steve Perry. Without missing a beat, Bill launched into the opening bars of Oh Sherrie and we both started cracking up. Here's the rest of the conversation.
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Five to One by Steve Poloni
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Brooke Shaden is one of a select few artists who manages to consistently create work that is so visceral and resonates so deeply that it makes me want to step into the picture so I can inhabit that world, even for a moment. Her work is sometimes haunting, sometimes dark, sometimes disturbing, but always interesting and challenging enough, both conceptually and technically, that I’ve been a fan for years and am always eager to see what she comes up with next. I’ve wanted to talk to her for a long time and I’m so grateful that we could make this…
Brooke Shaden is one of a select few artists who manages to consistently create work that is so visceral and resonates so deeply that it makes me want to step into the picture so I can inhabit that world, even for a moment. Her work is sometimes haunting, sometimes dark, sometimes disturbing, but always interesting and challenging enough, both conceptually and technically, that I’ve been a fan for years and am always eager to see what she comes up with next. I’ve wanted to talk to her for a long time and I’m so grateful that we could make this happen.
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MUSIC
Normalize by Stanley Gurvich
Please Listen Carefully by Jahzzar (CC BY-SA 4.0)
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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about the idea of revisiting older work. Some people find value in looking back over what they’ve done, while others never do and instead are always looking to what comes next. While Sean and I have a few similarities around it, there are definitely some differences in how each of us relates to our previous bodies of work.
LINKS
Talking Funny (Jerry Seinfeld, Chris Rock, Ricky Gervais, and Louis CK)
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High Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode of Deep Natter, Sean Tucker and I are talking about perfection. They say that practice makes perfect, but I think as makers, deep down most of us know that perfect really doesn’t exist. Good? Sure. Great? Maybe, occasionally. But perfect? Not in my experience. So why do we keep chasing it? Well, that’s exactly what Sean and I are going to talk about and it all starts with a quote by one of Sean’s favorite authors, Richard Rohr.
LINKS
Richard Rohr – Another Name for Everything
Ram Dass – Be Here Now
They’ll Love Me When I’m Dead
The Last Picture Show
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High Line by Duffmusiq
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In this episode of Deep Natter, we're talking about effort, specifically whether and how and to what degree effort is connected to the value of the things we make. To help illustrate how effort can affect or influence the end product, we refer to a couple terrific films by Werner Herzog. If you would like to listen to these conversations live or participate with a question or comment, join us on the Clubhouse app Tuesdays at 2pm Eastern.
LINKS
Love languages by Gary Chapman
Heart of Darkness
Fitzcrraldo
Conquest of the Useless: Reflections from the Making of Fitzcarraldo
Burden of Dreams
Aguirre Wrath of God
Bert Kreisher and Casey Neistet
Casey Neistat
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MUSIC
High Line by Duffmusiq
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In this debut episode of Deep Natter, Sean and I are talking about long-term projects and curating our own work. Each of us have been circling a personal project for years and as luck would have it, coming out of a global pandemic was just the catalyst we needed to stop thinking and start doing. We also talk about the importance of making the things you want to see in the world, rather than worrying about how they might be received by an audience and Sean shares one of his favorite recent books.
LINKS
A Guide to the Good Life by William B. Irvine
Happy by Derren Brown
Photo Work by Sasha Wolfe
David Bowie on never playing to the gallery
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Website: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker
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MUSIC
High Line by Duffmusiq
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Lately I seem to be having more and more conversations with people who have really started taking a long look back on their lives to try to determine to what degree anything they’ve done matters and whether or not it will keep mattering after they’ve gone. For many of them, these musings revolve around a major accomplishment or a specific body of work that was somehow more, for lack of a better word, than most — if not all — of the other things that they have done. Many have even used the term “calling” to describe it. Personally, I’ve not experienced that, at least not in the way that it’s been described to me. I think my life has been different in that I’ve done a bunch of smaller things that, when looked at together, form something that is greater and much more fulfilling that the sum of its parts. I was talking about this with Jack Lowe who you might remember from episodes 37 and 38 of Process Driven and we thought that it might be a perfect topic for another chance to record. So get comfortable, because for the next hour or so, we’re talking about the importance of legacy, connecting with people, and a really wonderful story that involves Jack piloting a 42-ton lifeboat in the North Atlantic and a Rottweiler called Bear.
LINKS
JR: https://www.jr-art.net/
JR Visages, Villages: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/may/19/visages-villages-review-agnes-varda-jr-documentary-cannes-2017
Chris Hadfield – Hero to Zero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvZj05jaCuk
Chris Hadfield – An Astronaut’s Guide to Life on Earth… : https://www.amazon.com/Astronauts-Guide-Life-Earth-Determination/dp/0316253030/https://www.pomonaartscolony.com
MUSIC
City by Anthony Vega
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I think one of the things that made Father Bill Moore so important to me was the fact that he was one of a small group of non-family members and non-friends to say that I had talent as a painter and that I had something to say with my work and he was one of an even smaller group of people who I would consider a mentor in my life. This is probably something for another time, but I don’t think you can seek out a mentor — not intentionally and not with any real specificity in terms of who that person will be. That’s the way I feel about all of the mentors in my life. I never sought them out, but somehow our paths crossed and my life was made better for it. And hopefully theirs were too.
SHOW NOTES
Father Bill Moore – https://frbillmoore.com/
The Father Bill Moore Foundation – https://fatherbill.art
The dA Center for the Arts – https://www.dacenter.org
Pomona Arts Colony – https://www.pomonaartscolony.com
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Reconciled by Sean Williams
The Wrong Way by Jahzzar (CC BY-SA 4.0)
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I think Ben Horne and I first talked about recording together in 2018, not long after I was introduced to his work. But as John Lennon famously said, “Life is what happens when you’re making other plans” and for one reason or another, we just couldn’t get our schedules in sync, but I am so grateful that we were able to circle back around and make this happen. I am a huge fan of Ben’s work. I think one of his superpowers as a landscape photographer is capturing the quiet drama of big places — subjects and scenes that most…
I think Ben Horne and I first talked about recording together in 2018, not long after I was introduced to his work. But as John Lennon famously said, “Life is what happens when you’re making other plans” and for one reason or another, we just couldn’t get our schedules in sync, but I am so grateful that we were able to circle back around and make this happen. I am a huge fan of Ben’s work. I think one of his superpowers as a photographer is capturing the quiet drama of big places — subjects and scenes that most of us would simply ignore if we even noticed them at all. It’s beautiful work and I’m happy to finally connect with Ben to talk about it.
LINKS
Zion National Park
Yosemite National Park
Death Valley National Park
Colorado Plateau Film Reveal
Ben’s Portfolio Box Set
CONNECT WITH BEN
Website: https://www.benhorne.com
Twitter: @BenHorne
Instagram: @benhornephoto
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Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
MUSIC
Normalize by Stanley Gurvich
What Have We Lost by David James Terry
Please Listen Carefully by Jahzzar (CC BY-SA 4.0)
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While I’ve never really done one myself — not intentionally anyway — I am fascinated by long-term creative projects. I find the whole idea of intentionally and purposefully immersing yourself in something you know is going to take years to realize both inspiring and a little terrifying. But I guess if you find the right project, the challenges, obstacles and accidents both happy and unhappy make the journey of bringing whatever it is to life that much more rewarding. Marc Wilson is a photographer in the UK who has completed two such projects back to back. From 2010 to 2014,…
While I’ve never really done one myself — not intentionally anyway — I am fascinated by long-term creative projects. I find the whole idea of intentionally and purposefully immersing yourself in something you know is going to take years to realize both inspiring and a little terrifying. But I guess if you find the right project, the challenges, obstacles and accidents both happy and unhappy make the journey of bringing whatever it is to life that much more rewarding.
Marc Wilson is a photographer in the UK who has completed two such projects back to back. From 2010 to 2014, he produced a body of work called The Last Stand which, in his words “aims to reflect the histories and stories military conflict and the memories held in the landscape itself.” In 2015, after releasing the body of work as a book, he began work on his next project, A Wounded Landscape – bearing witness to the Holocaust, which is based around 22 Holocaust survivor stories. The six-year project, culminating in a 750-page book, was made at more than 160 locations and is told through more than 350 photographs, as well as transcripts of conversations, research and sound. I am so grateful for the opportunity to talk about this powerful and important body of work.
LINKS
Kickstarter for A Wounded Landscape – bearing witness to the Holocaust
CONNECT WITH MARC
Website: https://www.marcwilson.co.uk/
Twitter: @marcwilsonphoto
Instagram: @marcwilsonphoto
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MUSIC
Normalize by Stanley Gurvich
Mysa by Laurel Violet
Please Listen Carefully by Jahzzar (CC BY-SA 4.0)
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In the middle of 2019, Netflix launched a show called Blown Away, which is a competition show for glass artists. The promos looked terrific and I think Adrianne and I were hooked from pretty much the first episode. We binged the whole season and it became our go to recommendation for our Netflix-watching friends. I even reached out to Alex Rosenberg, one of the contestants on the show, who I sat down with for an episode of Process Driven. Fast forward to the beginning of this year when Netflix finally released season two of Blown Away and for the next…
In the middle of 2019, Netflix launched a show called Blown Away, which is a competition show for glass artists. The promos looked terrific and I think Adrianne and I were hooked from pretty much the first episode. We binged the whole season and it became sort of our go to recommendation for our Netflix-watching friends. I even reached out to Alex Rosenberg, one of the contestants on the show, who I sat down with for an episode of Process Driven.
Fast forward to the beginning of this year when Netflix finally released season two of Blown Away and for the next ten episodes, Adrianne and I were right back in the hot shop with a new group of artists. And just like with season one, I know I wanted to talk to one of the contestants and I knew exactly who I wanted it to be. Both Adrianne and I were fans of Elliot Walker straight away. There was just something about his demeanor in the shop, not to mention that we absolutely loved what he made on the show. I really resonated with his approach to the materials, and the sense of humor he brought to the pieces he was making. I also really connected with how he spoke about his partner Bethany, who is not only his girlfriend, but also his assistant, his muse, and the curator of their gallery, Blowfish Glass.
And just so you know, this conversation does contain spoilers. So if you haven’t seen season two, consider yourself warned.
LINKS
Blown Away on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/80215147
Blown Away on IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9908860/?ref_=ttep_ep_tt
Alexander Rosenberg on Process Driven: https://jefferysaddoris.com/everything/processdriven-28/
CONNECT WITH ELLIOT AND BETHANY
Gallery: https://www.blowfishglassart.com
Website: http://ewalkerglassart.co.uk
Instagram (Elliot): @ewalkerglassart
Instagram (Bethany): @bethjadewood
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Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
MUSIC
Reconciled by Sean Williams
Normalize by Stanley Gurvich
Please Listen Carefully by Jahzzar (CC BY-SA 4.0)
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As many of you know, I currently produce three different podcasts, each with a different format and purpose. Process Driven is a deep dive conversation with a single artist to talk about what they do and why they do it. In Between is a conversation with a recurring group of co-hosts around a single topic or theme. Iterations is my audio journal — it’s shorter than the other two shows and it’s just me offering up thoughts or reflections around what I’ve recently been thinking about or trying to work through. As I said, each of these shows offers a different listening experience, but in many ways I see them as part of the same larger, ongoing conversation. As you might expect, each of the three shows has its own feed and if you want all of them, until last year you had to subscribe to all three individually. But early in 2020 I looked a little deeper at how people were listening to podcasts, and what I found was that most people don’t listen to every episode of every podcast they subscribe to. I know I don’t. Instead, they create playlists — cherry picking episodes from within a given show or even across multiple shows, which is exactly why I created my “Everything” feed. Listeners could now get all three shows, along with any one-off conversations or any future shows in one feed instead of multiples and they could just add episodes of my shows into the playlists they were already making.
My plan from the beginning was to ultimately deprecate the individual show feeds and JUST have Everything. I even confirmed it again in an episode I put out in January called “Setting the Intention for 2021.” But the more I think about it and the more Adrianne and I talk about it, the more I’m questioning whether killing off the individual feeds is the best way forward.
On the one hand, I can see where if you were unfamiliar with my shows — both past and present — and you went to my website for the first time, you might be a little confused seeing three different shows that, at least on the surface, all seem to deal with creativity and the creative process in one form or another.
On the other, maybe you are familiar with the me and my back catalog but you just aren’t interested in my monologues or random conversations and you only want to hear my conversations with other creatives deep diving their process.
Either way, having only a single feed for all that I do — despite my intentions behind it — might not be what you want as a listener. And one thing that I have learned from Adrianne is to meet people where they are, which means that if you are really only into one show, I don’t want to risk losing you as a listener because I’m forcing you to subscribe to shows that don’t really interest you. That doesn’t serve either of us.
Look, I would love it if everyone listened to everything I released – and maybe that’s a goal I can shoot for – but I need to earn it. So, for now, I’m going to keep all of the individual feeds active and keep trying to meet you where you are.
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Music in this episode
Funk It Up by Steve Poloni
In the Clouds by Be Still the Earth
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In Process Driven 37, I had part one of this two-part conversation with Documentarist, Jack Lowe. And while you don’t need to have listened to part one to enjoy this conversation, I invite you to go back and listen to it if you haven’t. Among other things, we talked about the origins of Jack’s Lifeboat Station Project, which has him traveling to all 238 lifeboat stations around the UK in his mobile darkroom Neena to make photographs with his 12×10 inch wet plate camera. In this conversation, we talk about some of the motivations for the project and the supportive…
In Process Driven 37, I had part one of this two part conversation with Documentarist, Jack Lowe. And while you don’t need to have listened to part one to enjoy this conversation, I invite you to go back and listen to it if you haven’t. Among other things, we talked about the origins of Jack’s Lifeboat Station Project, which has him traveling to all 238 lifeboat stations around the UK in his mobile darkroom Neena to make photographs with his 12×10 inch wet plate camera. In this conversation, we talk about some of the motivations for the project and the supportive community that has grown around it, as well as what Jack hopes people will take away from the body of work as a whole. And just as we did in part one, we go down a few rabbit holes and, of course, talk a bit more about The Life Aquatic.
LINKS
The Life Aquatic
Part One of this conversation
CONNECT WITH JACK
Website: https://lifeboatstationproject.com
Twitter: @ProjectLifeboat
MUSIC
Reconciled by Sean Williams
Normalize by Stanley Gurvich
Please Listen Carefully by Jahzzar (CC BY-SA 4.0)
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At the beginning of the year, I released an episode called Setting the Intention for 2021, and one of the things I talked about was how I wanted to make some changes to my shows, both in who I approach to record with and in how I actually produce and edit the episodes, for example using music and sound effects to enhance the ambience or atmosphere of an episode when it’s appropriate and serves the story. The first person I met on the back of all of this was Jack Lowe and I can’t really even tell you where I…
At the beginning of the year, I released an episode called Setting the Intention for 2021, and one of the things I talked about was how I wanted to make some changes to my shows, both in who I approach to record with and in how I actually produce and edit the episodes, for example using music and sound effects to enhance the ambience or atmosphere of an episode when it’s appropriate and serves the story.
The first person I met on the back of all of this was Jack Lowe and I can’t really even tell you where I first heard his name or saw photos from his Lifeboat Station Project – most likely it was something that popped up on Twitter which over the past several months has become a terrific way for me to discover new work and connect with interesting people. Regardless, once I dove into a bit of Jack’s work, I knew I wanted to talk to him.
LINKS
Ambient Isolation: https://www.ambientisolation.com
Matthew George Tuckey: @MGTuckey
Jack’s Dawn Chorus: https://m.soundcloud.com/mrjacklowe/sets/dawn-chorus
Daniel Meadows: https://www.photobus.co.uk
Anthony Hopkins’ “Be bold…”: https://twitter.com/AnthonyHopkins/status/1344008299490861056
JACK'S FIELD RECORDING KIT
MixPre-3 II: https://www.sounddevices.com/mixpre/
DPA 6060 Spaced Stereo Pair: https://www.dpamicrophones.com
Audio-Technica M40X: https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/ath-m40x
CONNECT WITH JACK
Website: https://lifeboatstationproject.com
Twitter: @ProjectLifeboat
MUSIC
Reconciled by Sean Williams
Normalize by Stanley Gurvich
Please Listen Carefully by Jahzzar (CC BY-SA 4.0)
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One of the hardest things about being an artist — beyond the actual making of the art — is deciding how to value the work we make. For many of us — and I’m putting myself squarely in the middle on this — the art I make is very personal, even though visually it may not seem like it. And, if I’m being honest, it’s not just the art, but the design, the podcasts, the books, basically anything that I’m applying any sort of purposeful effort into is personal. And isn’t that the way it should be? I know this might be a corny reference but saying that just now reminded me of a movie with Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan called you’ve got mail. Meg plays Kathleen, the owner of this little book shop in New York and Tom plays Joe, the owner of a big box book chain that ends up forcing Kathleen to close her shop, which coincidentally belonged to her mother. Anyway, at one point in the movie Joe apologizes to Kathleen for driving her out of business, saying that it was nothing personal. Kathleen, says something like “What is that supposed to mean? All that means is that it wasn't personal to you. But it was personal to me. And what's so wrong with being personal, anyway? Whatever else anything is, it oughta begin by being personal.” And that’s pretty much how I feel about the things that I make. The things I make are personal, they’re not just products. And all of this is part of a recent conversation with Jon Wilkening that began with a deceptively simple question.
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Reconciled by Sean Williams
Faster featuring Helios Armor by Skygaze
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Like many of you, I could not be happier to finally be rid of the raging dumpster fire that was 2020. I know the next year will be anything but easy, but I am cautiously optimistic that 2021 will be filled with new possibilities and chances to do things a little differently than last year. I started doing yoga about a month ago and Adrianne reminded me that there’s a concept in yoga about setting an intention at the beginning of a practice and while I’m not a fan of resolutions per se, I wanted to share a few things…
Like many of you, I could not be happier to finally be rid of the raging dumpster fire that was 2020. I know the next year will be anything but easy, but I am cautiously optimistic that 2021 will be filled with new possibilities and chances to do things a little differently than last year.
I started doing yoga about a month ago and Adrianne reminded me that there’s a concept in yoga about setting an intention at the beginning of a practice and while I’m not a fan of resolutions per se, I wanted to share a few things today that I’ve been thinking about for a while as a way of setting my intentions for the year ahead.
To that end, I want to let you know about some of the changes that I’m making both personally and professionally moving forward.
Let’s start with my shows. Early in 2020 I created a new feed called “Jeffery Saddoris: Everything” as a way for you to get everything I release, including Process Driven, In Between, Iterations, and any sort of one-off conversation, like the recent chat with Bill Wadman, all in one place. The response to that feed has been terrific – in fact subscriptions to the individual feeds have dropped off considerably as subscriptions to Everything have increased. It’s not one to one, but it’s enough that I’m going to deprecate the individual show feeds so that moving forward, I will only be publishing new episodes to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything. If you’re already subscribed to Everything, great. You will continue to get all of the episodes that I release, which should be not only easier to manage under just one feed but also more frequent since I don’t have to try to figure out where a particular conversation fits. If you are subscribed to one or more of the individual show feeds, please subscribe to Everything so you don’t miss anything moving forward.
And I want you to know that I’ve thought about this quite a bit. I know there are some of you who might only want to listen to Process Driven and this move might initially feel like kind of a bummer. But, I think the way we listen to podcasts has changed, partially because there are so many. I know it’s definitely changed for me over the last few years. I subscribe to dozens of shows and only a very few do I listen to every episode. Instead, I simply create playlists of the episodes that look interesting to me, and the trends show that I’m not in the minority here.
One of the things I’ve struggled with for quite a while is monetizing the work I do – and that goes for all of the work I do, from design work for clients to selling my paintings to whether or not to run ads on my podcasts. And without getting too deep into it here, it all revolves around self-worth and how I assign or ascribe value to the work I do. But I think I’ve come up with a solution that Adrianne and I have been talking about for a while now. A few days ago I tweeted a Venn Diagram with creativity on one side and philanthropy on the other and that place in the middle of those two things is where I want to be. So the solution we’ve come up with is that we’re going to donate the majority of any revenue that my creative endeavors generate into arts education and related non-profits. We’ll have details on the actual organizations soon, but the big picture is that this allows me to value the work I do in a way other than what it can do for me. It actually becomes more valuable in that the worth of it directly helps more than just me. I’m incredibly excited about it and again more details are forthcoming but that’s the big picture.
I think that’s enough for the moment. As I said, I’ll have more details around all of this in the coming weeks. If you have questions or comments, you can find me on Twitter or Instagram @jefferysaddoris or you can email
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If you were an On Taking Pictures listener, you know how all over the place some of the conversations with Bill Wadman and me tended to get and this one is no exception. We talk a little about gear, a little about process and a little about whatever tangent we happen to feel like following. In other words, just a normal chat between friends who have literally hundreds of hours of recorded conversations behind them.
SHOW NOTES
Sound Devices MixPre - https://www.sounddevices.com/mixpre/
RØDECaster Pro - https://www.rode.com/rodecasterpro/
Apple Big Sur - https://www.apple.com/macos/big-sur/
Gary Yost - http://www.garyyost.com
Oculus - https://www.oculus.com/
CONNECT
Connect with Bill: Website | Instagram | Twitter
Connect with me on Instagram and Twitter @jefferysaddoris or on my website at jefferysaddoris.com. If you’ve got questions or feedback, email me at talkback@jefferysaddoris.com.
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Five to One by Steve Poloni
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I was talking to Sean Tucker the other day and I don’t remember what prompted it, but he asked me whether I’d seen some of the recent work our friend Maarten Rots was sharing on Instagram. I told him that I had and that it was terrific. “But do you know how he’s doing it?” Sean gave me a brief description of what was going on in the pictures and after going back and looking at Maarten’s feed again, I realized because his work flows together so beautifully, the “how” of the more recent pictures didn’t raise any sort of flag. It just didn’t register, so I reached out to Maarten to ask him about it and when he sent me a few behind the scenes shots of his setup, the photos took on a different meaning and I knew there had to be an interesting story about how he got there.
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There are only a handful of photographers whose work is instantly recognizable and fewer still who have become a genre unto themselves. I was first introduced to the pictures of Gregory Crewdson through a body of work called Beneath the Roses. I felt instantly connected to that world he so meticulously crafted and I’ve been a huge admirer of his work ever since. In 2016, I had the opportunity to sit down with Gregory for a conversation about his body of work called Cathedral of the Pines. It was a terrific experience for me, not just because Gregory is one…
There are only a handful of photographers whose work is instantly recognizable and fewer still who have become a genre unto themselves. I was first introduced to the pictures of Gregory Crewdson through a body of work called Beneath the Roses. I felt instantly connected to that world he so meticulously crafted and I’ve been a huge admirer of his work ever since.
In 2016, I had the opportunity to sit down with Gregory for a conversation about his body of work called Cathedral of the Pines. It was a terrific experience for me, not just because Gregory is one of my favorite photographers, but because it provided a glimpse behind the curtain to a photographic world that I find both moving and familiar. In 2018, Gregory began making photographs for his newest body of work. An Eclipse of Moths continues his exploration of themes like brokenness and isolation as well as a profound connection to light and the encroachment of the natural world. To some that world may seem bleak, especially on first glance — but a deeper look will reveal a narrative that is hopeful and rich with possibility.
As we sat down to talk about An Eclipse of Moths, I began by asking him about the geography he revisits again and again and whether his pictures could be made anywhere else or is the place he now calls home a necessary part of his expression as an artist.
LINKS
An Eclipse of Moths (with music by Jeff Tweedy) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYhGYZCc_hk
An Eclipse of Moths (Aperture book) - https://aperture.org/books/gregory-crewdson-an-eclipse-of-moths/
Process Driven 05: Gregory Crewdson - https://jefferysaddoris.com/everything/processdriven-05/
CNN Arts Feature - https://www.cnn.com/style/article/gregory-crewdson-photography-eclipse-of-moths/index.html
IMAGE DETAILS
GREGORY CREWDSON
Funerary Back Lot, 2018 - 2019
Digital Pigment Print
56 1/4 x 94 7/8 inches / 142.9 x 241 cm (unframed)
Edition of 4, with 2 APs
© Gregory Crewdson. Courtesy Gagosian
CONNECT WITH GREGORY
Website: https://gagosian.com/artists/gregory-crewdson/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/crewdsonstudio
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crewdsonstudio/
MUSIC
Please Listen Carefully (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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A few months ago I was out on a morning walk with Adrianne and got a call from a familiar voice. Since then we’ve spoken a few times and thought why not roll tape on one and see where it goes. Today seemed as good a day as any to do just that. Here’s a brand new conversation between me and Bill Wadman.
SHOW NOTES
Beetlejuice - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094721/
Schitt's Creek - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3526078/
Ted Lasso - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10986410/
Films to be Buried With - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/films-to-be-buried-with-with-brett-goldstein/id1408585620
Hackers - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113243/
A History of Pictures: From the Cave to the Computer Screen - https://amzn.to/2GpqCK2
Depeche Mode by Anton Corbijn - https://bit.ly/3kVmnop
Obey Giant - https://obeygiant.com/
Rocky 4 Training Montage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_9FyTiq3SA
Burt Young - https://burtyoungofficial.com/
Connect with Bill: Website | Instagram | Twitter
Music in this episode:
Five to One by Steve Poloni
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Episode six. Reflections on the life of Eddie Van Halen and three ways our paths crossed. Patrick Shipstad shares some stories from his former life in the music business and Adrianne calls in with some thoughts and observations around what motivates and energizes us to create and how tweaking our workflow can improve our results.
SHOW NOTES
Jacob Collier - There are a ton of great links out there shining a light on Jacob's brilliance, but these two are good places to start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWRqI... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPLCk...
Martini Ranch - Reach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkz0L...
Attention! The Power of Simple Decisions in a Distracted World by Rob Hatch - https://amz.run/3ghO
Music in this episode:
Chunky Monkey by Shtriker Big Band
Good by Above Envy
On the Way by Ian Post
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If you’re listening to this show, or any of my shows really, chances are you are a maker of some sort. And if you are, I bet on at least a few occasions over the past several months, you’ve had one of those days. The days where at best it’s hard to stay focused on the making and at worst you’re asking yourself why the fuck you should even get out of bed. And you know what? Either way, it’s okay. I know that when I’m in that place it’s really hard to hear it let alone believe it, but I’m gonna say it again, so listen closely. It’s okay. It’s okay that you haven’t created your magnum opus in the midst of a global pandemic. It’s okay that the myriad of natural and man-made dumpster fires burning around the world are pulling your focus and attention away from taking pictures or making paintings or writing that novel. It’s okay.
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SHOW NOTES
On Taking Pictures 43: Artistic Monkhood - https://5by5.tv/otp/43
SADDORIS LIVE - https://youtube.com/jefferysaddoris
Process Driven 25: Ondřej Vachek - https://jefferysaddoris.com/everything/processdriven-25/
Fleetwood Mac: Rumors - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumours_(album)
Jackson Pollock - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Pollock
Vivian Maier - http://www.vivianmaier.com/
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Music in this episode: The Wrong Way (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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In this episode, I start things off with a couple stories about my various connections to Eddie Van Halen, which started back when I was a kid and continued through college and into an unexpected job in Hollywood. My friend Patrick (http://www.patrickshipstad.com/) calls in to talk about how his work as a portrait photographer has changed under quarantine. He also shares some stories about his friend Taylor Negron, who he first met on the set of Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Matt from Denver calls in to talk about process versus results in his own creative practice and how a career change has forced him to make some decisions about how and where creativity fits into his life.
Music in this episode:
Bored by Jahzzar (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Effects of Elevation by Revolution Void (CC BY 3.0)
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In this episode, we're talking about the importance of backing up your work, and some of the ways what we do as creative professionals has changed during lockdown.
SHOW NOTES
Digging Deep with Robert Plant - https://lnk.to/RPDiggingDeepPodcast
The Honeydrippers - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Honeydrippers
PhotoWork with Sasha Wolf - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/photowork-with-sasha-wolf/id1523742299
Richard Boutwell - http://www.richardboutwell.com/
Scully & Osterman Studio - http://www.collodion.org/
Fred Levy (The Black Dogs Project) - https://www.fredlevyart.com/index/G00007N.NR0KFZ5I/thumbs
Process Driven 25: Ondřej Vachek - https://jefferysaddoris.com/everything/processdriven-25/
Music in this episode:
Low Force by Daniel Birch (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Hold On by Vienna Ditto (CC BY 4.0)
Time by Pedro Santiago (CC BY 4.0)
Realize by Ian Sutherland (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Waveshift by Gorowski (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0)
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I don’t remember how it came up but I was talking to Sean Tucker a while back and we ended up talking about different photographers that we had found recently and he asked me whether I’d seen the work of Maria Lax. Maria is a Finnish photographer based in London who had published a book called Some Kind of Heavenly Fire. Honestly the title alone was enough to pique my interest but what I found beyond it was a fantastic set of images that were inspired by a book her grandfather wrote documenting a series of encounters with UFOs…
I don’t remember how it came up but I was talking to Sean Tucker a while back and we ended up talking about different photographers that we had found recently and he asked me whether I’d seen the work of Maria Lax. Maria is a Finnish photographer based in London who had published a book called Some Kind of Heavenly Fire. Honestly the title alone was enough to pique my interest but what I found beyond it was a fantastic set of images that were inspired by a book her grandfather wrote documenting a series of encounters with UFOs by the locals of the small Finnish town where she grew up. I’ve always had a fascination with UFOs so I was interested straight away and the work beautifully straddles the line between reality and possibility. Maria takes a little X-Files, a bit of Twin Peaks, and maybe even a dash of Todd Hido and turns it into something uniquely her own —and that combination of style and vision is there in both her personal and her commercial work, which is no easy feat.
I’d like to thank Tom Booth Woodger at Setanta Books for not only arranging an introduction to Maria but also for providing me a copy of her wonderful book Some Kind of Heavenly Fire.
LINKS
Some Kind of Heavenly Fire
Setanta Books
CONNECT WITH MARIA
Website: https://www.maria-lax.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/maria_lax_/
MUSIC
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The third episode of my livestream call-in show. As I try to solidify the direction of a some new projects (including this one), a couple of terrific books are really helping me to think about where those "aha!" moments come from and how creativity works.
SHOW NOTES
Organizing Genius by Warren Bennis and Patricia Ward Biederman http://bit.ly/OrganizingGeniusAbeBooks
Where Good Ideas Come From by Steven Johnson http://bit.ly/GoodIdeasAbeBooks
Brian Eno On Genius, And “Scenius” https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/07/09/brian-eno-on-genius-and-scenius/
Austin Kleon - Further notes on scenius https://austinkleon.com/2017/05/12/scenius/
**The book links above are not affiliate links and I don't make anything from them. I'm directing you to Abe Books, rather than Amazon, because it gives you the opportunity to help smaller booksellers and get great deals on new and used books. I use them myself and can't recommend them enough.
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Music in this episode:
Urban Slanging by Paolo Pavan (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)
No Control by Jahzzar (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Nonconceptual by Drake Stafford (CC BY 4.0)
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In this episode, we continue to talk about music — how we relate to bands and how we listen to them. Adrianne shares a powerful story around how her father's "come to Jesus moment" affected his relationship with music and with her. We also talk about experiences around live music both from an audience perspective and as a member of the crew.
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Music in this episode:
"Just Give It Time" by Pierce Murphy (CC BY 4.0)
"Time Flux" by Revolution Void (CC BY 3.0)
"Secret Geometric States" by Kevin Bryce (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0)
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I spend a lot of time thinking about materials and objects as they relate to art and art making and I spend a fair bit of time talking about it with Jon. In this conversation, we’re talking about some of our first memories of art and of objects that we somehow recognized as “special.” We also talk about the how the contrast between the refinement of Europe and the chaos of India in Jon’s childhood contributed to and maybe even directly informed the type of work he produces decades later.
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Growing up, I can’t remember not having a radio in one form or another. The first one I remember was a big walnut console with a turn table and a television that we had in our house in either San Dimas or Azusa — that part’s a little fuzzy but it had to be the early 70s. I also remember a little Panasonic clock radio my mom had on her night stand — and this was probably when I was in third or fourth grade — and the main reason I remember it is because it had those little black and white flippy numbers. I got my first stereo in junior high — I don’t remember which year — but I do remember that the first record I ever got was Robin Williams Reality… What a Concept.
As I got older and started listening to the radio more often, I started to recognize the DJs in addition to the music. The first one I remember was probably Wolfman Jack because he was just such a character. Because we were in LA, there were a ton of DJs to listen to — Rick Dees on KIIS FM, Richard Blade and Rodney Bingenheimer on KROQ, Mark and Brian on KLOS, and of course The Dr. Demento Show, which think was on KMET. Howard Stern was in there too, but honestly I was never really a huge fan. I like him much better now, especially because he’s a really terrific interviewer. Oh, and there was also Joe Frank on KCRW but, honestly, we could spend hours on him, so I think I’ll save that one. Feel free to ask me about it if you’re curious.
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"Noite de Novembro" by Himalayha (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)
"After the Border" by InSpectr (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)
"Imagery Intelligence" by Metre (CC BY-NC-ND 4.0)
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If you’ve listened to any of my shows before, you know that I spend a fair bit of time talking about creativity, both in the literal and in the abstract. I’m fascinated by how and why we create. Why for some, the need to express who they — we — are is as important to the human experience as taking a breath. Questions around creativity inform many of the conversations I have — whether or not I’m rolling tape — what I read and even some of the things I watch. For example, this morning I watched a TED Talk by Ethan Hawke. Now, I wouldn’t call myself a FAN of Ethan Hawke, per se, although I’ve seen Gattaca a half-dozen times and he was great in Training Day with Denzel Washington. Anyway, like I said, I’m not a huge fan but I do have massive respect for the choices he makes as an artist. I mean, just scanning through his filmography reminds you of some of the often unexpected and occasionally brilliant left turns he’s made in his career. And whether or not a project did well at the box office or was acclaimed by the critics, he seems to get something out of everything he does and watching this TED Talk sort of reaffirmed that notion and it might even give you something to think about as you try to go deeper into your own creative process and self-expression as an artist and frankly as a human. At one point in the talk , he says, “To express ourselves we have to know ourselves. What do you love? And if you get close to what you love who you are is revealed to you and it expands.”
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SHOW NOTES
Give Yourself Permission to be Creative | Ethan Hawke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRS9Gek4V5Q
David Bowie on why you should never play to the gallery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNbnef_eXBM
David Bowie - Blackstar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kszLwBaC4Sw
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When I was a kid, my mom used to say that if the house ever caught fire, the one thing she would grab before anything else was the box of family photos that she kept in her closet, which I’m sure was common for many of us before analog became digital. For my mom, those photos were the things — the objects —that she held most dear, more than jewelry or money or a favorite piece of clothing. They anchored her to specific memories and feelings and because of that were more or less irreplaceable. Objects have meaning and more importantly value, and to what degree we value the objects in our lives is different for all of us.
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At the end of May, I decided to take a break from social media so I could focus on making without the constant background noise that seemed to be sucking the life out the urge to create anything. It was a self-imposed blackout that I hoped would allow at least some of the creative light back in. Inspired by a recent documentary, I decided to work on a series of 12 paintings simultaneously rather than a single piece, and within a couple weeks I had completed twelve new pieces of work. Seeing them spread out on the bench was like fuel to keep going, so I set a fairly ambitious goal: to create 53 new paintings — including the first twelve — by my 53rd birthday on July 21st. Well, my birthday was yesterday and at about 4 o’clock, I put the final brushstrokes of black edging on the last piece, which was actually piece number 54. A week or so ago, when I still wasn’t quite sure I’d make the goal, I sat down with Jon to talk about the project.
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There’s something about wet plate photography that I can’t get out of my head. Maybe it’s the process, maybe it’s the unpredictable nature of it – Sally Mann calls it “the angel of uncertainty.” Or maybe it’s the permanence of the objects themselves. When you look at a plate by Matthew Brady or Timothy O’Sullivan, for a moment you’re no longer part of the present. And I would argue that that sense of timelessness is one of the reasons a handful of modern photographers still choose to embrace the 170-year-old process. In 2018 there was a Sally Mann show at…
There’s something about wet plate photography that I can’t get out of my head. Maybe it’s the process, maybe it’s the unpredictable nature of it - Sally Mann calls it “the angel of uncertainty.” Or maybe it’s the permanence of the objects themselves. When you look at an image by Matthew Brady or Timothy O’Sullivan, for a moment you’re no longer part of the present. And I would argue that that sense of timelessness is one of the reasons a handful of modern photographers still choose to embrace the 170-year-old process.
In 2018 there was a Sally Mann show at the National Gallery called A Thousand Crossings. It is by far my favorite show I’ve ever seen since I've been in DC and, in fact, I went back to see it about a half-dozen times. While I love her entire body of work, it was the wet plate work—both plates and prints—that I found myself gravitating to the most. Far from the pristine edge-to-edge sharpness of modern photos, they exude life, inexorably binding them to the maker.
A couple weeks ago, I got an email form Shane Balkowitsch, a wet plate photographer from Bismarck, North Dakota who began shooting wet plate after seeing a plate of a motorcycle. Something about it refused to let go and he reached out to the photographer to ask about the image and the process behind it. 45 days later, he made his first wet plate—an image of his brother. That was 2012. Today, more than 3500 plates later, Shane’s work is in collections including the State Historical Society of North Dakota and the National Portrait Gallery. His ongoing project photographing Native Americans and helping to preserve their culture has earned him the name “Shadow Catcher.”
LINKS
Northern Plains Native Americans: A Modern Wet Plate Perspective - https://amzn.to/31SEIvU
Balkowitsch (Documentary) - https://amzn.to/3gBAOvx
State Historical Society of North Dakota - https://www.history.nd.gov/archives/manuscripts/inventory/2014-P-025.html
Sally Mann: A Thousand Crossings - https://www.nga.gov/exhibitions/2018/sally-mann-a-thousand-crossings.html
CONNECT WITH SHANE
Website: http://sharoncol.balkowitsch.com/wetplate.htm
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/balkowitsch
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/balkowitsch
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Last week, I decided to take a much needed break from social media. There’s just too much going on in the world that pulls my focus away from the areas of my life that really warrant - and frankly need - that focus - specifically my family and my art. In my final Instagram post before the break, I wrote that I wasn’t who I wanted to be lately followed by a list of distractions that to a lesser or greater extent contribute to it. After seeing the post, Jon reached out and asked if I’d like to talk about it.
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David Goggins - https://davidgoggins.com/
Elizabeth Gilbert's TED Talk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86x-u-tz0MA
Jocko Willink - https://jockopodcast.com/
Cal Newport - Deep Work*
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What happens next? That’s the question isn’t it? It’s something I get asked a lot, especially lately, both from friends and from strangers. I wish I had an answer but honestly I’m still spending a fair bit of time struggling to answer “what now?” I’m sure most of you are thinking about it too and maybe you even have an answer. Eventually, we’ll all have to think about it. What happens when we can go outside — without a mask — to grab dinner with family and friends, go to the movies, see a baseball game and just get back to something resembling normal? But, what does normal even look like in the wake of this?
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If you’re a gamer—and even if you’re not—the tech demo for Unreal Engine 5 running on the PS5 is pretty damn impressive. The level of detail that’s possible is just incredible and in many ways it’s a quantum leap over the already impressive Unreal Engine 4, which in addition to being used to power AAA games was also used to create the virtual environments on Disney’s The Mandelorian.
PS5 Unreal Engine 5 Tech Demo - YouTube
CNN posted a terrific piece highlighting a site called Trailblazers of Light, which celebrates women in photojournalism. More than 500 photojournalists are featured on the site, from Frances Benjamin Johnston who began working as a freelance photographer in the 1890s to Linsey Addario, a Pulitzer Prize-winning photojournalist whose work has been featured in The New York Times, National Geographic, TIME magazine. It’s a fascinating resource.
Home - Trailblazers of Light
And finally, I don’t know a lot about musicology or music theory, but I know enough to be able to recognize what a musical monster Jacob Collier is. His latest video All I Need is an homage to 70s Stevie Wonder funktastic goodness. The melodies that he comes up with continuously amaze me. If you want more after watching the video for All I Need, check out the Tiny Desk Concert from last year.
Jacob Collier: All I Need (with Mahalia & Ty Dolla $ign) - YouTube
Jacob Collier: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert - YouTube
Music in this episode: The Wrong Way (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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As much as I love working with acrylics in my paintings, because many of them are literally dozens of layers of pigment, collage, found objects, and thick layers of acrylic medium, it can take weeks to finish a single piece just waiting for layers to dry. A few years ago, I began looking into using encaustic, which offers the ability to create work with a similar aesthetic to my acrylic work in a fraction of the time. In doing the research, I came across the work of Lisa Pressman. Lisa is a fabulous artist from New Jersey who works…
As much as I love working with acrylics in my paintings, because many of them are literally dozens of layers of pigment, collage, found objects, and thick layers of acrylic medium, it can take weeks to finish a single piece just waiting for layers to dry. A few years ago, I began looking into using encaustic, which offers the ability to create work with a similar aesthetic to my acrylic work in a fraction of the time. In doing the research, I came across the work of Lisa Pressman. Lisa is a fabulous artist from New Jersey who works in both encaustic and oils and has been exhibiting her work for nearly four decades. In addition to making her own work, she inspires others to start their own artistic journey through her workshops and one on one mentoring. Lisa and I have spoken a few times and I’m so grateful that we were finally able to hit the record button.
LINKS
https://elizabethmurrayart.org
https://rbleckner.com/
http://www.gregoryamenoff.com
https://www.terrywinters.org
https://www.wikiart.org/en/philip-guston
https://www.wikiart.org/en/joan-mitchell
http://www.bettycuninghamgallery.com/artists/estate-of-jake-berthot-1939-2014
https://www.moca.org/exhibition/kerry-james-marshall-mastry
https://www.hanshofmann.org
http://www.aliceneel.com/
CONNECT WITH LISA
Website: http://www.lisapressman.net
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisapressmanart/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/LPressman
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LisaPressmanWorkshopsAndClasses/
MUSIC
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Back in January, I came across a terrific piece of writing by author Paul Jarvis. One part of it in particular really spoke to some of the things I’ve wrestled with over the years — loving what you do, following your passion, and the costly obsession that often goes along with each of those things. I ended up subscribing to Paul’s newsletter and regardless of whether you’re a full-time creative, an enthusiastic amateur or someone in the middle just trying to live a more creative or interesting life, there are so many valuable insights and observations that it’s quickly become one of my favorite weekly reads. I shared the piece with Jon and while he wasn’t familiar with it, he had actually spoken to Paul before. Since Jon is just as big a fan of rabbit holes as I am, I thought it might be fun to unpack it a little.
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LINKS
Paul Jarvis - https://pjrvs.com
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Do you know the Serenity prayer? Even if you don’t know it by name, you’ve likely heard it. It goes:
“God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference.”
Originally written as part of a sermon in the 1930s by theologian Reinhold Niebuhr, the Serenity prayer has been adopted by a number of twelve-step programs, most notably Alcoholics Anonymous.
Regardless of whether or not you are religious or part of a twelve-step program, the core of the Serenity prayer - change and acceptance - are ideas that virtually everyone struggles with at one point or another. I know I do.
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LINKSRegina Gimenez
The Price of Everything
Under the (Ray) Gun: Chris Ashworth
Music in this episode: The Wrong Way (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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Several years ago when I wasn’t really sure what direction my life was taking, one of the ideas I kept coming back to was getting a Volkswagen Westfalia van and just driving around the country, allowing the universe to put interesting people and experiences in my path rather than trying to follow a specific plan. I hadn’t started podcasting yet, nor had I picked up my paint brushes again, so the “what I would be doing to actually support myself” aspect of it was pretty nebulous. Still, I loved the idea and for years it was a running joke between my friend Jude and me. Whenever one of us was dealing with some sort of personal or existential challenge, the other would respond with “well, you could always get a Westfalia van and just drive around.”
For Dutch photographer Maarten Rots and his wife Anne, the dream of van life has become a reality. For 6 to 8 months a year, they trade their home in the Netherlands for a Ford Transit camper van and travel throughout Europe, often without a fixed destination. For Maarten, this way of traveling almost by instinct has proven to be the catalyst for some of his most compelling work both as an itinerant solo artist and as a collaborator with other artists he meets along the way.
While I know the reality of it is not always as romantic as the way we see it from a distance, I can’t say I’m not just a little envious. In this conversation, I caught up with Maarten in Portugal where he was preparing a pop-up exhibit of his work, appropriately titled In Transit, at a local gallery.
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You can find Maarten on Instagram @maartenrots, or on his website at https://maartenrots.nl. Also, be sure to check out his magazine March & Rock.
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Music in this episode: Take Me Higher (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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This might be one of the most process driven episodes of Process Driven yet. I’ve known Karl Taylor for more than a decade. I was introduced to his work by my friend Patrick in the form of a DVD of Karl‘s Photography Master Class. What struck me straight away was Karl‘s enthusiasm for photography – that and his encyclopedic knowledge of the medium. 12 years after its initial release, Karl has created a brand new remastered version of his original introduction to photography built on a decade of learning and refining what was already an incredible understanding of both the art and science of photography. In this conversation we talk about some of the things he’s learned over the past 10 years, including a deep-dive into the biology of how we see and process images.
CONNECT WITH KARL
Website: https://karltaylor.com
Platform: https://karltayloreducation.com
Instagram: https://instagram.com/karltaylorphotography
MUSIC
Please Listen Carefully (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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“Light is almost like some sort of magical quantity that I get to work with — and I’m fascinated by it.” This might be one of the most process-driven episodes of Process Driven yet. I’ve known Karl Taylor for more than a decade. I was introduced to his work by my friend Patrick in the form of a DVD of Karl‘s Photography Master Class. What struck me straight away was Karl‘s enthusiasm for photography – that and his encyclopedic knowledge of the medium. 12 years after its initial release, Karl has created a brand new remastered version of his original…
“The best way to be in the moment behind the camera is to be in the moment in life.” When I saw the work of photographer Ryan Struck, particularly his surf and lifestyle photography, I knew I wanted to talk to him. From the first photo, it was obvious that Ryan wasn’t just an outsider simply documenting this lifestyle, he was living it and I bet he had an interesting story to tell. Turns out, whether he’s self-funding a documentary about the community surrounding an all-female surf competition, or photographing abandoned televisions on the streets, interesting stories don’t just fuel…
When I saw the work of photographer Ryan Struck, particularly his surf and lifestyle photography, I knew I wanted to talk to him. From the first photo, it was obvious that Ryan wasn’t just an outsider simply documenting this lifestyle, he was living it and I bet he had an interesting story to tell. Turns out, whether he’s self-funding a documentary about the community surrounding an all-female surf competition, or photographing abandoned televisions on the streets, interesting stories don’t just fuel his photography, they fuel his life.
LINKS
Tofino
Queen of the Peak
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Website: https://ryanstruck.com/
Instagram: @ryanstruck
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Please Listen Carefully (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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A couple weeks ago, I got a text from my friend Sean who had just gotten out of the cinema seeing 1917, the new World War I epic from director Sam Mendes. The text simply read “so good.” I remember seeing the trailer for the film months ago and thinking that it looked incredible. But most of recent the buzz about the film seemed to center around the idea that it was all shot in one continuous take. In fact, the first plot keyword you’ll see in the IMDB listing for the film is “one take.” You’ll also read it or a variation of it in virtually every review of the film. The problem is it’s not true. 1917 was filmed to appear as one continuous shot, which it is a remarkable achievement on a film of this scale, but that doesn’t make it any more true. When I got the “so good” text from Sean, I remember asking him whether the one shot thing worked or if it came off as more of a gimmick. “I don’t know,” he responded. “I have mixed feelings I think.” Now that we’ve both seen it and had a chance to think about it, I thought it might be fun to talk about it. As you’ll hear, and as is often the case when Sean and I talk, the conversation went down a number of rabbit holes, which is one of the reasons I love talking to him.
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LINKS1917 on IMDB - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8579674/
Roger Deakins Filmography - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005683/
Making a Murderer - https://www.netflix.com/title/80000770
Don’t Fk with Cats - https://www.netflix.com/title/81031373
Cartel Land - https://www.amazon.com/Cartel-Land-Dr-Jose-Mireles/dp/B078SDYF83/
Kelly Slater 24/7 - https://www.hbo.com/specials/247-kelly-slater
Werner Herzog Masterclass - https://www.masterclass.com/classes/werner-herzog-teaches-filmmaking
Of Walking in Ice - https://www.amazon.com/Walking-Ice-Munich-Paris-November-14-December/dp/0816697329/
CONNECTYou can find Sean on Instagram @seantuck, or on his website at https://www.seantucker.photography. Also, be sure to check out his YouTube channel, where he has just released a brand new video called “Balancing Your Photography with a Busy Life.”
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The recent death of Rush drummer Neil Peart hit me like a ton of bricks. While I consider myself a visual artist, I can’t think of a single painter, or sculptor, or photographer whose death has or even would affect me as dramatically as Neil’s has and I can’t really reconcile why that is. It’s just not a simple answer. I’ve been a Rush fan since 1982, but as I’ve said before, it wasn’t the music that grabbed me initially, but the lyrics. Yes, the musicianship was superb, but the themes and the language that Neil used to explore those themes was unlike anything I’d ever heard or more to the point read before. There was also the timing of it all – that time in my life when who I was or was becoming had not yet solidified and I was still malleable and curious and full of wonder. All of this has gotten me thinking about the ways and degrees that others inspire us throughout our lives and I thought it might be interesting to spend some time unpacking it a little with Jon Wilkening, who always helps take the conversations in directions I wouldn’t have thought of.
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LINKSRush: Beyond the Lighted Stage
The Joe Rogan Podcast
Tim Ferriss
Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable
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Music in this episode: Take Me Higher (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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I have a question for you, and the answer depends at least partly on the primary perspective you take – either as an audience member or a maker — when you think about how to answer. It centers around effort in art-making and to what degree the visibility of that effort affects how we connect to the work, both as the artist and as a viewer. Again, the answer is entirely subjective, but it’s something I’d like to continue to explore in multiple conversations over time. But before we get to that, we’re talking about culling our creativity — letting go of some of the distractions both literal and metaphorical and keeping — and really leaning into — the things that continue to challenge and inspire us to make.
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Music in this episode: Take Me Higher (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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In the last Iteration I talked about the importance of giving yourself little victories in the work that you do — tiny wins that you can finish in a day or two that can often re-energize you or jumpstart your creative momentum on larger, more time-consuming projects. In this episode, I want to share a couple of examples of little wins that I’ve given myself in the last week. You may have noticed — or you may not have, and that’s okay too — but I’ve given the cover art for each of my three current podcasts a slight redesign. They still have a similar feel to the previous versions, but they all work together a bit better and feel more on point with my overall design aesthetic if that makes sense. I’ve also made some tweaks to my website — nothing really major, but I’ve tweaked the fonts and the color palette so there’s a bit more visual cohesion between the design of the show covers and the site.
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LINKSMy Blue Note playlist on Spotify
Orba by Artiphon
Dark and Stormy icebox cake
Music in this episode: The Wrong Way (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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We’re getting close to the end of the year and if you’re like me, you’re already looking ahead to 2020 – maybe you have been for a while – trying to come up with some great new project or maybe multiple projects that will make the next year better than this one.
I love the idea of big projects and in fact I’ve already started laying the groundwork for what’s looking more and more like the biggest solo project of my career – but while I’m more excited about it than I’ve been about anything in a while, I’m also terrified that I won’t be able to pull it off or that it will end up being less than what I think it could or should be. Big projects are great when you finish them but, man, they can be a slog. And typically the bigger the project, the more we hope or expect from it in terms of response once we actually do finish it.
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LINKShttps://www.charliecliftphotography.com
The Beastie Boys book
David Hurn Documentary on BBC Two
Music in this episode: The Wrong Way (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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“So much goes into it and I’m finding even for myself the stuff I’m learning or the stuff that’s changing who I am isn’t necessarily reflected visually in the final image.”
One of the first photographers I reached out to when I started recording conversations and podcasting was John Keatley. I was introduced to his work by my friend Kevin and what struck me straight away was how seamlessly John’s commercial work fit with his conceptual photographs. Though each body of work is distinct, John’s eye for detail and his love of ambiguity runs through all of it. While we don’t talk often, when we do I find that the conversations stick with me and often they inform the way I think about my own work as well as the work of others. He’s recently entered the world of fine art photography with a project called UNIFORM that centers around his personal exploration of identity and, as he puts it, “a deep need to be seen.” In addition to a series of limited edition prints, UNIFORM is available as a book, John’s first in fact, and that’s where we begin in this episode.
LINKS
To purchase a copy of the UNIFORM book, visit https://www.johnkeatley.com. For pricing and availability on UNIFORM prints, email studio@johnkeatley.com.
The Jim Morrison contact sheet that John mentioned was taken by Joel Brodsky and featured in a show called CONTACT at the Fahey/Klein Gallery. See the image at http://www.faheykleingallery.com/exhibitions/contact#5.
CONNECT WITH JOHN
Website: https://www.johnkeatley.com
Instagram: @johnkeatley
Twitter: @johnkeatley
MUSIC
Please Listen Carefully (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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My dad and I never really did a lot together when I was growing up. I mean, yes I spent summers with him and my stepmother Linda in Arizona but it was always with a group of people – and don’t get me wrong, it was a terrific way to spend the summer. But rarely was it ever just the two of us.
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LINKSCharmolipi: joy making sorrow – Full FIlm
An Intimate Look Inside The Art Studio Of Scott Avett
Color Grading Netflix’s Mindhunter
Music in this episode: The Wrong Way (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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“Because I had really poor depth perception, everything in my world flattened into two dimensions. I struggle to incorporate depth into my work because that’s not how I engage with what I see.” — Jo Mackby
If you listen to any of my other shows—particularly Iteration 52—you know that earlier this year I had surgery on my eyes to correct a condition called Strabismus. About a month ago, I got an email from a listener and a photographer who recently had a similar surgery although I’ve since learned that her condition was much more dramatic than mine. I’ve never met anyone else with the same condition, let alone had the surgery to correct it. I responded to her email and asked if she would be willing to have a conversation about how her experience compared to my own, specifically around how it shaped her approach to art, both as a viewer and as a maker.
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CONNECTYou can find Jo on Instagram @jomackby or on her website at jomackby.com
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Music in this episode: Take Me Higher (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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In 2020, I’m launching a brand new show that will be my most ambitious project to date. A Day’s Work is a podcast about how we spend our time when we’re not with family and friends. Inspired by the landmark work of Studs Terkel, I’m having conversations with everyday people and going beyond the small talk to really explore the deceptively simple question: “So, what do you do?”
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I hope you’ll join me for the next chapter in my podcasting journey. I can’t wait to share this with you.
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Music in this episode: Algorithms (Chad Crouch) / CC BY-SA 3.0
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The tormented artist. You’ve heard the term — hell you may even be one yourself. I know I was. For years, I was absolutely convinced that if my art wasn’t the albatross around my neck, that I was somehow unworthy of the title. Why is that? Why do so many of us feel at one point or another that the suffering is necessary — that it’s somehow inexorably linked to the intrinsic value of what we make? That’s exactly what we’re talking about in this episode and it all begins with a Nine Inch Nails concert in 1990.
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CONNECTI’d love to hear from you. Email me at talkback@jefferysaddoris.com or connect with me on Instagram or Twitter @jefferysaddoris.
You can find Jon on Instagram @jonwilkening or on his website at jonwilkening.com.
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I got an email a couple weeks ago from a listener asking if I had any advice for finding a mentor. Now, while I have been incredibly fortunate to have had – and frankly still have – some amazing people in my life who have in one way or another taken on the role of a mentor, I can’t say that it’s ever been intentional in the sense that I want to connect with this person or that person so they can be my mentor. In my experience, mentors find their way into my life at just the right moment – and it may only be for a moment. Here’s a piece of a conversation with my friend and not so occasional mentor, Jon Wilkening.
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Music in this episode: Brain Power (Mela) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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Earlier this week, Adrianne and I watched the first episode of the new season of Abstract on the Netflix . For those of you who haven’t seen it, Abstract is a fantastic show about art and design. It follows roughly the same format as something like Chef’s Table — which is also an excellent show — where each episode profiles a specific artist or designer. Last season included Tinker Hatfield, Paula Scher, and Platon among others and this season starts out with someone who I’ve never heard of by name though I have seen his work. Olafur Eliasson is an artist and architect whose large scale works are focused and really dependent on the user or viewer’s experience of them. Many of his works center around light — specifically, the effects and manipulation of light. For example, one of his earlier pieces is called “Beauty” and it was his attempt to create a rainbow by lighting a gentle waterfall of very fine mist. The effect was such that no two people experience exactly the same rainbow, since the color and intensity are based entirely on your viewing angle relative to the mist.
“This is a space totally dependent on you being there,” Olafur says. “When you leave the exhibition, and there’s no-one in the room, there’s also no art.” This idea is really core to Olafur’s art — the Why of his art, if you will. Each piece he makes is a sort of challenge. As he puts it, “do I trust my own eyes and my own capacity to engage in the world?” His work is completely dependent on the spectator. It’s a collaboration –maybe even a conversation – between him as the artist and us as the viewer. Even his episode of Abstract is a collaboration, beginning with Olafur breaking the fourth wall and speaking directly to the camera — to us — as he presents the conditions of our collaboration.
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LINKSAbstract: The Art of Design
https://olafureliasson.net
Music in this episode: The Wrong Way (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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“We are all unique in the way we see things — the worst thing is to copy. The best thing is to be who you are.”
As I sat down to write the intro to this episode of Process Driven, I struggled a little trying to come up with words that would convey some of my thoughts and feelings about the work of photographer Olga Karlovac. I then realized that the words had already been written by Koci Hernandez in his beautiful foreword for Olga’s latest book, the disarray.
“You’re about to embark on upon a fantastic journey. It’s one of boundless time and space and it’s compressed with the pages of the book you now hold. I only wish I could experience again, for the first time, the disarray — visual poetry as a master work.
Let me assure you, the sign posts on your journey will be stunningly clear and mysteriously opaque, filled with blurry lines, half made worlds and the formless. Olga wouldn’t have it any other way. Don’t be fooled by what you think you see, because dancing within these pages is an unbound energy — an energy that at once can overwhelm the spirit and set eyes ablaze in wonder. You have been warned.”
That’s an excerpt of the foreword from the disarray.
CONNECT WITH OLGA
Website: https://www.olga-karlovac-photography.com/
Instagram: @olga.karlovac
Facebook: @olga.karlovac
MUSIC
Please Listen Carefully (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0
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Adrianne and I were in the car the other day — I don’t remember where we were going but I do remember that we were listening to Classic Vinyl on XM because we both really dig Meg Griffin. The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys by Traffic came on and whatever conversation we were in the middle of stopped and we just listened to this incredible song written by Steve Winwood and Jim Capaldi. If you’ve never heard the track, it’s basically a twelve minute jam that ebbs and flows in dynamics and complexity with a 24-year-old Winwood singing over the top of it. The musicianship is fantastic and listening to it got us talking about creative complexity and how looking at or listening to something that is artistically or technically just out of our reach can be wildly inspiring, both as a fan and as a maker.
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LINKSThe Low Spark of High Heeled Boys (YouTube)
Robert Rauschenberg
Mark Rothko
Cy Twombly
Echo in the Canyon
Brian Eno
Pet Sounds
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Lately, I’ve been thinking a lot about art – specifically, what really counts as art? Is the art the thing that we make? Or, is in the doing? The making itself. Or is art in the reaction to work — the results of the doing? Or, is it something else entirely that is personal to each of us? I really don’t know. Historically, I have been very hesitant to call the things I make art, regardless of the discipline or media. It just feels like that’s a label that someone else should choose to apply or not to the work that I do. I’m okay referring to myself as artistic, because in my head that’s a value that somehow that feels tied more to the process — to the making — and not the end product. Regardless, I called Jon up to see if he’d be up for wrestling with it for an hour or so.
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CONNECTI’d love to hear from you. Email me at talkback@jefferysaddoris.com or connect with me on Instagram @jefferysaddoris.
You can find Jon on Instagram @jonwilkening or on his website at jonwilkening.com.
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A couple weeks ago, I had a terrific conversation with an artist whose work I’ve admired for years. And while it was a treat to get to talk to someone who has inspired me for decades, the work was only a small part of the conversation. Instead, we just talked. We connected straight away and what was meant to be a quick phone call just to say hello ahead of a potential episode of Process Driven ended up being a two hour conversation about everything from family and our respective childhoods to love, loss, Studio 54, JK Rowling, and even musings on the nature of art. On more than one occasion, and typically after a particularly interesting exchange, one of us would comment, “man, we should be recording this.” But instead we chose to just keep enjoying the experience — a one-off conversation between nascent friends.
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LINKSThis month, a brand new record from John Coltrane comes out. Blue World was recorded with Coltrane’s Classic Quartet in 1964 between Crescent and A Love Supreme. Ahead of the September 27th launch, Universal has released a gorgeous video that really captures the look and feel of some of the iconic Reid Miles covers.
One of my favorite recent television shows is called The Boys, which is adapted from the comic by Garth Ennis, a monster in comics who also created Preacher and wrote The Punisher, Hellblazer and a bunch of other books. His latest project is a six-issue series called SARA, which tells the story of seven female snipers who find themselves caught up in a deadly struggle against an evil German invader. The series has been called a masterclass in comics storytelling and one of the finest works of his career.
Robert Frank died Monday at the age of 94. He was one of the most influential photographers in the game and his book The Americans inspired almost every other famous photographer you could think of. If you’ve ever considered pursuing photography he’s a photographer whose work you’ll definitely want to know.
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“I used to think art with a capital ‘A’ had to be about these big ideas. I started finding work that was really playful and finding that quality in myself.”
Have you ever sat down to watch something on Netflix only to spend whatever time you set aside just trying to find something to watch? It’s amazing how often I find myself in that exact situation.
A few months ago, Adrianne and I were scanning though the myriad of options, and a promo for a show called Blown Away popped up. If you haven’t seen it, Blown Away is a competition show that centers around glass blowing. Ten glass artists competed for a $60,000 prize package which includes a residency at the Corning Museum of Glass. We didn’t really know what to expect but both of us were hooked from the first episode and binged the entire season in less than a week. The show is shot in a way that allows the glass to be the star and while each of the artists on the show were interesting in their own ways, there were two who really stood out for us both in skill and technique and in how they approached their craft, one of whom is a visual artist and glass blowing instructor from Philadelphia named Alexander Rosenberg.
One of the reasons I reached out to Alex was that I loved the way he interpreted each of the challenges on the show. In the few times we’ve talked on the phone, I’ve learned what incredible passion he has for the material, the respect he has for those who have come before him, and the profound sense of joy he gets from sharing his love of glass with his students.
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Website: https://www.alexanderrosenberg.net/
Instagram: @rosenbergalexander
Twitter: @Thetoast77
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A week or so ago, I was talking to my friend Gareth about how frustrated I was in not feeling like I had a clear and consistent creative voice. It’s not uncommon for me to feel overwhelmed and frankly paralyzed by the number of options I have and unable to get out of my own way to take action on any of them. “You need to talk to Vari,” he said. “Like today. Don’t put it off. I’m going to tell her you’ll be calling.” Gareth’s partner Vari Longmuir wears quite a few hats – one of them being that of creative coach, helping people just like me — and maybe you — to fail forward and to overcome the obstacles we create and get back into that flow state of making. I reached out to her and asked her if she’d be willing to talk about some of this with me and I’m so glad she said yes. It’s a terrific conversation about figuring out what living a creative life looks like to you and unapologetically striving for balance, happiness and success doing what you love.
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Are you happy? If not, why do you think that is? For a lot of people who make things and share what they make online — myself included — we have a tendency to abdicate our happiness to the fickle whim of the mob. Not enough likes, or hearts, or dollars can send us careening into a creative tailspin, questioning what we do and even who we are. If this sounds familiar to you, hopefully this conversation with Jon Wilkening will help you find your way back to making first and foremost for the joy of it, and not simply for the return.
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Last week, I asked a deceptively simple question on Instagram: What are some of your fears around creativity? Dozens of responses came in ranging from fear of running out of creative gas, to being judged by an audience to not being seen or heard at all. Your responses reinforced how much I miss interacting with an engaged community around making art.
I’ve been noodling around what to do about it for quite a while and I think I have something that may be interesting, but it doesn’t work without you. In a nutshell, I want to hear from you. I want to hear what interests you, what inspires you, even what you’re struggling with. Chances are, whatever you’re going through — the good or the bad — someone else out there is going through something similar and by sharing these things with one another, maybe we can help each other to become better artists and maybe even better people. By sharing something with me on this new endeavor you’re giving me permission to share it with everyone — and maybe even to reach out to you to have a deeper conversation about it. I don’t know if this will be a few random one-off episodes or whether it wants or needs to be a new show, but regardless, I think there’s something there and I’d love to see where it goes.
So if you’d like to participate, and I hope you will, reach out to me at talkback@jefferysaddoris.com and let me know what’s on your mind. I think everyone has a great story to tell. Let’s work on telling yours.
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Not too long ago, I was having a conversation with David duChemin about subject as it relates to photography — specifically, some of the differences between photographs of a subject, versus photographs about a subject. It can feel like a tricky distinction but moving from one to the other can really elevate the work that you produce.
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LINKSDaniel Rozin is an artist and professor at NYU who builds incredible mechanical mirrors out of materials like metal, wood, and even trash that respond to the viewer’s movements.
This year marks the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 mission to the moon and to mark the occasion, NASA has completely restored mission control at Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas to exactly how it was in 1969, down to period coffee mugs, ashtrays, rotary phones, and carpet to recreate it as accurately as possible. Johnson Space Center director Mark Geyer said “I’m thrilled this facility will be open for the public to view. It is my hope that it will serve as inspiration for generations to come.”
NPR posted a fascinating article about a team of scientists from the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute who are investigating the amount of micro plastics in the Deep Ocean. According to chief scientist Kyle Van Houten, data suggests that there’s actually more plastic in the Deep Ocean than there is in the giant floating patches on the surface, which is pretty staggering.
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I had something else planned for this episode, but I got a little surprise in the mail and decided to go in a different direction. On Wednesday of last week, as I went to take Cooper on his ten o’ clock walk, I noticed a big padded envelope on the front porch with the words “UNSOLICITED GIFT” written on the outside. Now, I can be a little strange about gifts, even the ones I know are coming, so when one just shows up anonymously I sometimes don’t know how to react. Fortunately, Adrianne was working from home that day and was able to offer some sage advice that wasn’t as obvious as it probably should have been as I stood there staring at the package. “Well,” she said, “the only way you’re gonna know what it is is to open it.” Right. Inside, wrapped in newspaper, was the gift itself and an envelope that contained a card. I’ll get to the what in a moment, but first I want to address the why, because without the why, the what isn’t nearly as meaningful.
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LINKSHere’s a terrific article from The New York Times Magazine called The Day the Music Burned, which tells the story of the 2008 Universal fire that destroyed the original analog and multitrack recordings of nearly a half million songs, some dating back to the 1940s.
I’ve just picked up Adam Savage’s new book, Every Tool’s a Hammer and one of the reasons I did is because I read an article on Wired that featured an excerpt from the book all about the power of making lists and how Adam’s list making life changed when he started working at Industrial Light & Magic.
In an article on Witness, Lewis Bush addresses “why there is such a poverty of theory about storytelling in photography compared to other fields, and why there is so little precision about the terms and techniques we use. Why, for example, are so few photographers able to differentiate between such fundamentally different things as story and narrative.” It’s a fascinating read that definitely has me thinking about the type of work I’d like to produce moving forward.
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As many of you know, three weeks ago today I had surgery on my eyes to correct a muscle imbalance and while the physical recovery has been fairly uneventful, the emotional and existential healing has been incredibly profound. The condition is called Strabismus and basically what happens is that the eyes don’t focus or track together. Let me explain…In the center of the retina, there’s an area called the macula which is basically the functional center of the retina where straight ahead images are processed. Within the macula is a spot called the fovea where the cones are at their highest concentration and it’s here where the image is meant to focus at its sharpest. In most people, if the eyes are tracking together, those two sharp images are combined to create binocular vision. In my case, my right eye was off axis—it was turned in—so the image didn’t focus on the fovea and when my brain tried to combine the two images, since they didn’t match up, I didn’t have binocular vision. Think of it like this—if my left eye was looking straight ahead, my right eye would be looking about 20-30 degrees off axis to the left. My brain would then try to combine those images into one, but since they didn’t match up, it would leave me with this somewhat fragmented almost double exposure type of view and would finally just give up and basically disregard the image data from my right eye. There are a number of different types of Strabismus, depending on what the eyes are doing. When one or both eyes converge in, it’s called esotropia. If the eyes point out, it’s called exotropia, and if they are misaligned vertically it’s called hypertropia. Bottom line, I was cross-eyed and for most of my life, it was a constant gut punch to my self-esteem and self-image.
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I’ve always tried to be honest with you about what’s been going on with me—from the deaths of my parents, to my struggles with depression, to what led me to ultimately leave California for the East Coast. Today I want to share something that I haven’t really talked about but is something that has affected me for years and in many ways been at the core of some my darkest days.
You won’t find a mention of this on Instagram or Twitter, but I wanted to share it with those of you who subscribe to Everything since you have been so supportive and generous with your time and with your ears.
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Let’s talk about inspiration-specifically what to do when you can’t seem to find any. Generally, there seems to be two schools of thought around it. In one camp are those who more or less wait for inspiration to strike, which is sort of in line with the Greeks who believed that inspiration was basically an unconscious blast of creativity, either from the muses or directly from the Gods. To be fair, I actually know more than a few artists who insist that their particular muses drive much of their creative work. For example, my friend Gareth has his muse Melissa—and while the work he does with other models is terrific, there is just something, oh, I don’t know…special about the work he does with Melissa. Muses in one form or another have inspired art, music, film, and poetry for thousands of years, so who am I to question their validity. In the other camp are those more in line with Chuck Close who famously said “Inspiration is for amateurs; the rest of us just show up and get to work.” Now, I understand what Chuck is saying, and on some level I agree with him. The work isn’t going to make itself and at some point, you need to stop the navel gazing, roll up your sleeves and do something—whether or not you’re comfortable calling it work and really regardless of whether it’s even good.
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LINKSHuck magazine posted a fascinating article—it’s the story of Adrian Street, an androgynous and incredibly flamboyant wrestler who inspired Marc Bolan, David Bowie, and Bob Dylan.
An interesting article on The New York Times that suggests that the music we loved as teenagers tends to be the music we still love as adults.
Check out the Instagram feed of Jude Allen, a San Francisco based travel and landscape photographer who recently returned from Japan with a stunning body of work.
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Lately, I’ve been thinking about our connection to objects and how, at least for some of us, certain objects can represent a specific time in our lives or evoke a particular state of mind or, in the case of artists, inform the type of work we are able to produce. Painters often have a favorite brush or two — I still use a couple that I’ve had since 1988. Magnum photographer Elliott Erwitt used the same Leica M3 for decades and in 1963 Cormac McCarthy spent $50 on a Lettera 32 Olivetti manual typewriter that he used to write The Road, No Country for Old Men, All the Pretty Horses, and seven other novels. Objects can become more than the raw materials used to create them. They are somehow imbued with hope, with possibility, and something greater than ourselves. On Monday, we were reminded just how much one object can mean to so many.
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LINKSKenneth Clark’s landmark documentary Civilisation is a thirteen part series produced in 1969 for the BBC that looks at the history of Western art, architecture and philosophy since the Dark Ages.
Here’s a fascinating interview with Martin Gran about what it means to be a holistic designer and the idea of looking beyond aesthetics into the deeper meaning of design and how collaboration often results in stronger work.
Vice takes a look at seven photographers who are rewriting street photography’s rigid rules through clever shooting techniques, staged scenes, and a variety of digital manipulation.
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One of my favorite photo documentaries is Darkness & Light, which is a fantastic look into the mind and work of Richard Avedon. A lot of people know Avedon from his photographs in the American West – bold monochrome portraits set against stark white backgrounds or “that poster.” You know the one – it features a nude Nastassja Kinski lying on a concrete floor entangled with a massive Burmese python. Originally shot for Vogue, the poster went on to sell millions of copies.
Avedon’s career spanned six decades and his work bridged the gap between art and commerce in a way that few others managed to do – either before or since – and yet still he felt dissatisfied with all that he had accomplished as a photographer.
“I’ve never been able to put all I know into a photograph,” he said. “A photograph can be an adjective, a phrase. It can even be a sentence or a paragraph, but it can never be a chapter. So it’s been a lifetime of frustration in terms of expressing myself because of the limitations of the visual image. I believe in it-but it’s limited.”
Avedon has been at or near the the top of my list of favorite photographers for the better part of three decades but honestly it’s still hard for me to articulate why I feel such a connection to his work. There’s an obvious technical mastery of the medium, but I could say the same for dozens of photographers whose work doesn’t hold my interest in the same way or resonate as deeply as that of Avedon. So what is it that makes his work so compelling to me? Does he deserve the accolades and if so, why?
I was talking to my friend Hugh Talman and happened to have my little Zoom H2 with me and asked if we could hit the record button since the odds are pretty good that at least one amazing story will emerge. Hugh recently retired from a 33-year tenure at the Smithsonian Museum of American History, first as a darkroom tech and then as a photographer. Before that, he spent 12 years at the National Archives where he printed many of Matthew Brady’s glass plates from the Civil War as well as the work Timothy O’Sullivan did as part of the Western Survey. His knowledge and experience in all things photographic is staggering and if anyone could answer the question, it would be him.
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One of the struggles in making, regardless of what it is that you make is the tendency to compare ourselves to the artists who inspire us. But what do you do when the work you produce isn’t even close to the work of your creative heroes? Some give up, while others see slight missteps and outright failures as necessary components in the creative process. Disappointment with what we make can be creative fuel. Being creatively off balance can lead us to new ideas and directions that we never could have planned. Our appreciation of the work we do in the wake is often directly proportional to effort we put into it.
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I had a realization recently that the type of photography I was pursuing really didn’t hold much interest for me. I enjoy the process of making pictures, but the subject matter is leaving me feeling disconnected and frankly disappointed with the pictures I was making. I was talking about it with Jon the other day and he asked me how the work I want to create differs from the work I think I should create? It turns out that answering the question wasn’t as easy as I thought because before you decide on the what, you first need to know the why.
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I’ve been frustrated with my own photography for quite a while, and I think that frustration played a big part in the whole “which camera should I buy?” saga. Look, I think I am a good photographer — sometimes maybe even really good — but lately I’ve been having a hard time connecting with the photographs I make. Many of them are interesting from a technical perspective, and I love the experience of seeing the world through a viewfinder and the challenge of finding an interesting composition. But, beyond that, there’s something missing and the work just doesn’t land for me. It doesn’t grab me and I think it has to do with my connection — or specifically the current lack of it — to the subject matter that I photograph.
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LINKSHere’s an amazing behind the scenes look at the stunt driving in Mad Max Fury Road. It’s incredible to see just how much of that movie was done practically, rather than CGI.
From the real to the unreal is the work of 3D artist Josef Bshara whose work is just fantastic. I did a little 3D back in the day in Lightwave and 3DSMax, but nothing as complex or realistic as this.
And I meant to put this in the last episode but it slipped my mind. On Taking Pictures listener Josh Eikenberry has managed to cull six years of OTP show notes into one monster list. So if you want to see what we talked about over the course of 325 episodes, Josh has you covered.
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The other day, a friend of mine sent me a text message asking why I haven’t set up a Patreon for my podcasts.
“Why would I do that?” I asked.
“Asks the person who has wondered how he can get paid for the podcast he puts out,” he replied.
There were a few more exchanges after this, but you get the idea.
This was being asked by one of my closest friends and I know that it was absolutely from a space of love and out of the belief that what I do has value – monetary value – and he wants to see that value acknowledged in dollars. And to be fair, he has a valid point. I do too. But it’s not a simple as if/then – as in if you produce a podcast — or any creative work for that matter — then you’ll get paid for it. There are a lot of moving parts, so to really unpack it, we have to have an honest conversation about podcasting and money.
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LINKSArnaud Sagnier is a terrific collage artist who publishes under the name @Grafikstreet. His work is a mashup of vintage and modern aesthetics and the way he combines source material is just fantastic.
Tom Crouch is a British singer songwriter who I found through a collaboration he did with the band Joseph, who Adrianne and I saw with Dawes and Shovels and Rope a couple months ago. You can find Tom @liminalofficial
Tim Okamura is an incredible painter who blows me away with every new piece. His technique is tight but loose. His subject matter is powerful and he just seems like a super cool guy.
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“With each of the studies we’ve talked about, I’ve had to have the motivation, the passion, the interest, the fascination with the subject and I’ve needed to go out and make those photographs.”
My introduction to the work of Richard Beaven came via a text message from Jon Wilkening, which read simply “you need to talk to this guy” with a link to his Instagram. I think it took all of two images to realize he was right. Richard’s latest project is called All of Us. It’s a beautiful body of work — 275 portraits made over the course of a year in the town of Ghent, New York — that manages to capture not only the soul of the town but also the people who call it home. Richard’s work is centered around connection, both to his subjects and their environments. And whether he’s immersing himself in Trump Country or spending time on small family ranches in rural America, the stories Richard tells through his photographs are in many ways the stories of us all. They are about belonging and being seen for exactly what and who we are.
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Website: http://richardbeaven.com/
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A number of you have asked why I am selling what review after review calls the best APS-C camera on the market today to buy a two-year old Micro 4/3 camera that I’ve already bought and returned once before? Well, it’s complicated, but if you’ll give me a little bit of rope, I’ll promise to try and wrap it up without hanging myself.
What camera should I buy? It’s a question I get asked a lot. And I try to stay pretty consistent with my advice. If you were an On Taking Pictures listener, you know that I could answer the question for everyone but my myself. My search for a new camera became an epic saga and the butt of jokes for years on the show.
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LINKSHere & Now recently posted an interview with climber Alex Honnold and adventure photographer Jimmy Chin and his wife Elizabeth on their Oscar nominated documentary Free Solo, which follows Honnold as he climbs the 3,000 plus foot sheer granite face of El Capitan without any safety ropes to catch him.
Also, if you dig seeing how the special effects in your favorite movies are done, follow movies.effects on Instagram. The feed features side by side photos and before and after clips so you can get a sense of what it takes to bring these big budget fantasies to life.
And this is either really cool or really creepy, depending on your perspective, but Ukranian artist Olga Kamenetskya transforms overly made up toy dolls into hyper realistic looking figurines. According to the article on My Modern Met “Kamenetskaya strips the dolls’ makeup and opts for bushy facial hair, freckles, and even wrinkles in their skin. The results are so lifelike that you’d expect to see these people walking down the street.”
Em1 Mkii vs. PhaseOne IQ3
Josef Müller Brockmann
My paintings
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Kristopher Matheson is one of my favorite people to talk to. Not only is he a terrific photographer, he’s also funny as hell. We don’t talk often, but when we do, I always come away inspired and wanting to dive a little deeper into my own work. Not too long ago, Kristopher started posting images from a series he calls “Behind Glass.” I love pretty much everything Kristopher posts, but there was something about these pictures that really caught my attention. I called him up to ask where the idea came from and since Kristopher is a pretty fastidious journaler, I expected a detailed explanation citing influences and connections to other projects. Instead, he said “I have no idea.” Wait, what now?
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If you’ve listened to In Between before or listened to recent episodes of my other shows Iterations, and Process Driven, you’ve heard me mention my “Jeffery Saddoris: Everything” feed. Over the next several weeks, I’m going to be phasing out the individual show feeds and instead using the Everything feed for, well…everything. If you’re enjoying In Between and Iterations and you’ve been waiting for new episodes of _Process Driven—_which I promise are coming soon—please consider subscribing to Everything so that you don’t miss anything.
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“The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires.”
– William Arthur Ward
I have been drawing as far back as I can remember. My mom used to tell me that I could draw before I could talk. I’ve spoken on previous Iterations about my childhood love of art supply stores, which is still kind of true. All I ever wanted to be as a kid was an animator at Disney and I drew constantly. That changed a bit in high school when I was introduced to photography, but I didn’t stop drawing. In fact, I wanted to go to Art Center College of Design in Pasadena to study photography and illustration. As it happened — and this must have been my sophomore or junior year — Art Center was awarding scholarships for weekend classes, and one of them was being taught by a real Disney animator. All you had to do to be considered was submit a portfolio of your work. I told myself that I didn’t have a shot, and even if I did, there was no way we could afford the $40,000 a year that it cost to go there. On top of that, there was my dad and his repeated “artists are a dime a dozen” speeches echoing in my head. So I didn’t even try. In fact, I went the other way and started making up excuses for why I no longer even wanted to go to Art Center. To borrow from The Book of Pressfield, it was Resistance plain and simple. But my high school art teacher, Mr. Andrew, didn’t agree.
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The new issue of Time magazine which is called The Art of Optimism – 34 people changing how we see our world. The editorial that begins the issue is called “Why art is the antidote for our times” by Director Ava DuVernay and the issue includes articles by Laverne Cox, Bill Gates, and Guillermo del Toro. There’s also a terrific article called “12 Leaders Who Are Shaping the Next Generation of Artists” which features interviews and commentary on where art is at and where it’s going.
Flashbak posted a really great series of photographs of New York taken by Too Papageorge in 1966-67. One of the things that makes them so special — other than capturing New York in a way that many of us have never seen it — is that the photos were all taken on Kodachrome and they just show what an amazing film Kodachrome was – the colors, the shadows – and for many photographers that film stock was what defined their style.
In honor of Black History month, the New York TImes has launched a terrific new project called Overlooked, which begins “Since 1851, The New York Times has published thousands of obituaries: of heads of state, opera singers, the inventor of Stove Top stuffing and of the Slinky. The vast majority chronicled the lives of men, mostly white ones. Now, we’re adding the stories of other remarkable people.” The site is really well done and new obituaries will be added weekly. There’s also a form to allow users to nominate candidates for future entries.
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I want to give you a quick update to some of the changes I’m making to my shows over the next several weeks. If you’ve listened to any of the recent episodes of Iterations, In Between, or Process Driven, you’ve heard me mention my new Everything feed. For those of you who may have missed it, subscribing to the new feed gets you everything I do. Every Iteration, every In Between and every Process Driven. Plus, you’ll also get special one-off conversations and any new show that I happen to do all in one feed that’s available in your favorite podcast app and now also on Spotify. I’m adopting the YouTube model of “subscribe to me, not my show.” What that means is that the individual show feeds are going away as of April 1st, so if you are subscribed to one or more of the individual shows and want to keep getting it or them, please subscribe to Everything so you don’t miss anything.
My goal here is consistency, both for me as a producer and for you as a listener. I want to be able to produce compelling conversations on a regular basis and build a community of listeners that feel like they (you) are a part of them. To that end, if you have an idea for an en episode or feel like you may want to join in on the conversation, send me an email at talkback@jefferysaddoris.com or connect with me on Twitter or Instagram @jefferysaddoris. I’d love to hear what’s on your mind.
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Over the weekend, I took a workshop in encaustic painting. For those of you unfamiliar with the term, it’s basically painting with hot wax and it’s a process that’s been around for literally thousands of years. The are records of the Greeks using it as far back as the 5th century BC. The process involves heating beeswax with damar resin crystals which forms what’s known as “medium.” From there, you add pigment — either oil-based or dry powder — to create whatever color you’re after. What first drew me to the idea of encaustic was how much faster it seemed than the acrylic process I currently use in my paintings. Some of my pieces are 15 or even 20 layers deep and when the gels are applied thick to create the impasto type of textures that I use, it can take hours or even days to dry between layers. So, it’s not unusual for me to take weeks to finish a piece and, if I’m being honest, there have been several instances where I was either bored with the piece or I basically forgot where I wanted to go with it. So the idea of encaustic has been in the back of my head for a while as a potential solution to speeding up my process and as a way to inspire new work.
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Ben Bond is a photographer from Ghana whose latest BTS video is a terrific example of using simple gear well to achieve really superb results. For this shoot, Ben used one light firing into a 120cm octa and a Fuji X-T3 with the 18-55 kit lens. The results are just brilliant.
Journalist and photographer Will Hunt has written a new book called Underground: A Human History of the Worlds Beneath Our Feet in which he explores some of the communities that call the sewers, tunnels, and catacombs beneath cities like New York and Paris home. Will was recently a guest on Fresh Air where he talked a bit about the project.
If you’re looking for creative inspiration, The Metropolitan Museum of Art has added nearly 600 full text books and catalogs to their digital collection that cover art, design and photography, which you view, search, and even download for free.
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In my last Iteration, I was talking about social media, specifically how this year I was looking to refine or even completely redefine how I use it, personally and professionally. One of the biggest challenges for me historically has been consistency, both in terms of what I make and how I share it, and I think the bulk of the challenge comes around just how much I’m trying to do and the fact that when I look at it on paper, I end up almost feeling paralyzed by the weight of my own ideas, and as a response I don’t do anything. Sean Tucker reached out after listening to it and offered some terrific insights on how he uses social media and also some suggestions for how we can use it so it feels more like a tool and less like a distraction.
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If you’ve listened to In Between before or listened to recent episodes of my other shows Iterations, and Process Driven, you’ve heard me mention my Jeffery Saddoris Everything feed. Over the next several weeks, I’m going to be phasing out the individual show feeds and instead using the Everything feed for, well…everything. I’ll be releasing more details about what’s coming in 2019, but the short version is if you’re enjoying In Between and Iterations and you’ve been waiting for new episodes of _Process Driven—_which I promise are coming soon—please consider subscribing to Everything so that you don’t miss anything.
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Earlier this week I put up an image on Instagram with the caption “Time for a reboot.” It’s basically a “glitchy” version of my signature logo that I use as my avatar on Instagram and Twitter. I posted it because I’ve been spending a lot of time thinking about how I use—or in some cases misuse—social media and I’ve come to the conclusion that now is a great time to redefine what I want to get from and what I want to bring to social media.
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A fantastic article was recommended to me by Hugh Brownstone from Three Blind Men and an Elephant, who I had the pleasure of speaking to recently. It’s called The Amateur Spirit by Daniel Boorstin and if you’ll just indulge me, I’d like to share a quote that goes “I have observed that the world has suffered far less from ignorance than from pretensions to knowledge. It is not skeptics or explorers but fanatics and ideologues who menace decency and progress. No agnostic ever burned anyone at the stake or tortured a pagan, a heretic, or an unbeliever.”
Also, if you love super cool fountain pens, or know someone who does (hint, hint) check out Karas Kustoms. They make a line of pens called Stonewashed that feature anodized barrels that look like they’ve been at the bottom of a backpack or the glove compartment of an old truck for years—and I mean that as a compliment. The orange barrel with the tumbled aluminum grip is particularly lovely.
And I finally got to see Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse and all I can say is wow. I am typically not a superhero/comic book movie person, but this flick was fantastic. If it’s still in the theater where you live, go see it.
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I’ve been thinking a lot lately about how photographs influence our memories—not just of people and places, but events in our lives. For example, I have realized that there are memories of certain aspects of my childhood that are rooted not in an actual event but rather in the photographs depicting the event. There are multiple “important” events in my life where the time surrounding the event itself is a complete blur and my “memory” of it only exists because there happens to be a photograph.
So, in this conversation, we’re talking about how memory can often be influenced or even replaced entirely by photographs. We’re also wrestling a bit with a question Sean Tucker asked about whether photography is more about the end product — the image — or more about the process of making it.
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Last week, we were in New Hampshire celebrating Christmas with family. Now, I’ve got to tell you that I love handmade gifts and this year my eleven-year-old niece Anya made me a gift that I absolutely love. It’s a canvas board which, for those of you who may bot know is basically a piece of mat board wrapped in canvas. This particular piece measures 3×9 inches and on it she painted the phrase “My Instrument” with a little camera in between the two words. What I found so amazing about it—besides than the fact that it was completely unexpected—was how much I love the typography, partially because it’s just so different from the way I see. I’m typically more Helvetica or Futura and this is reaching into David Carson territory.
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The MY INStrUment painting that my niece Anya made for me.
Lewis Rossignol is a terrific illustrator from Portland, Maine whose mixed media portraiture is fantastic. In addition to prints, he’s got two books available which I just ordered today and will hopefully be sitting down with him on an upcoming Process Driven to unpack some of his work.
The Art of the Title just posted their picks for their top 10 title sequences for 2018 and there is some really great work in there, particularly the titles for Counterpart and for the new season of Mozart in the Jungle.
And if you’re a fan of minimalistic graphic design—like me—you’ll love some of the prints available at 2046 Print Shop. I’ve got my eye on the General and Special Relativity prints for my new podcast studio.
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I’ve been sitting on something for a while because I didn’t know how or even if I should share it. But, I think it’s important and while I won’t share it in its entirety, I would like to share a portion of it because as I said, I think it’s important — both for me to say and maybe for you to hear. It all centers around a conversation I had with Adrianne that was one of if not the most difficult conversations we’ve ever had. It started with a podcast I was listening to which was a terrific interview with a conflict photojournalist named Giles Penfound. I was telling Adrianne about it and told her that when I was in high school, I thought seriously about becoming a photojournalist—specifically a combat photojournalist after seeing some of the work of Larry Burrows—and that photojournalism was one of the two types of photography that I was most drawn to.
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A British sculptor known as Anna & the Willow makes beautiful large scale outdoor sculptures out of rods of willow, which she then places in the forest near her North Yorkshire studio.
Can art be so beautiful that it makes you ill? According to an article in The Guardian, yes, provided you’re in Florence and looking at Renaissance art. It’s called Stendahl syndrome and apparently there are cases dating back to 1817 and a man is currently recovering from a heart attack in a Florence hospital after gazing at Botticelli’s Birth of Venus.
If you’re a fan of street photography, take a look at In-Sight, a short film by street photographer Nick Turpin, which profiles 10 photographers from the In-Sight collective on why they are drawn to shooting street.
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In the last episode, we talked about how I—and maybe even you—rewrote the memories of childhood so they would fit the narrative we crafted about it as an adult, and what happens when childhood photographs begin to poke holes in the story. We also talked about some of the challenges of monetizing our work to the point where we can actually make a living as an artist.
In this conversation, we’re talking about the ideas of urgent vs important when it comes to the work we make and how social media tends to encourage, and often reward, one over the other.
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One of the things that I enjoyed the most — and miss the most — about doing a weekly podcast like On Taking Pictures is having discussions in between episodes with friends and listeners. Sometimes we would go a little deeper on conversations that were started on the show, other times they would prompt related discussions connected to things going on in our lives. I think the in between moments are what are most interesting to me — connecting broad conversations around a topic to our actual everyday lived experiences. I’m starting to roll tape on some of these conversations and while I’m not entirely sure whether it will become a new show per se, many of you have expressed an interest in hearing more of these types of explorations. With that, here’s In Between.
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As I said in the intro, I’m not entirely sure what this is going to be, but I’d love to hear what you thought of it, and whether or not you’d like to hear more conversations like it. Email me at talkback@jefferysaddoris.com.
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Iteration 37 was called The Myth of the Perfect Thing and in it I chronicled part of my years long search for a new camera to replace or at least complement my Fuji X-Pro1, ultimately leading me to the Olympus EM1 Mkii. A few days after I recorded that episode I actually bought an X-T3 and since I started posting images taken with it, I’ve gotten some emails and messages asking what happened and whether or not my feelings had changed about the Olympus. The short answer is no, but I feel like this deserves a little clarification. The main reason I chose the Olympus was how it felt in the hand, but as I mentioned mentioned in 37, it wasn’t JUST the feel — the performance of the camera is outstanding, and not outstanding for a micro 4/3 camera, just outstanding. Full stop. But something in the back of my head kept me wondering about the new Fuji. If you were ever an On Taking Pictures listener, you heard me repeatedly wax poetic about my love and borderline obsession with my X-Pro1.
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Esquire just released a brutally honest and revealing interview with Bruce Springsteen talking about politics, mental health, and exorcising some of his demons. And if you enjoy the interview and want to learn more about Bruce’s life, I can’t recommend his autobiography Born To Run highly enough, especially the audiobook version. Hearing Bruce tell his own life story — at least for me — was a profoundly moving experience.
Also, Russian director Maxim Zhestkov has created a new short film called Layers, which shows a variety of matte black monoliths being bisected by an invisible force revealing multicolored layered interiors. My description isn’t doing the piece justice—it really is hypnotic.
And finally, Google has created a new augmented-reality app called Vermeer that pulls together images from the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the National Gallery of Art here in DC, the Rijksmuseum, the Louvre, the Frick Collection, and The Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum into a virtual museum of all 36 pieces of Vermeer’s work.
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I woke up the other morning thinking about The Beatles, specifically the dramatic changes their work went through over the course of their career. From what I know of them, they began doing covers of other people’s material – mostly early American rock ‘n’ roll from artists like Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Buddy Holly, and Elvis Presley. Learning the songs of their heroes allowed them to use that material as starting points for their own songs. The early Beatles songs were — at least to me — straight ahead rock ‘n’ roll that became the blueprint for the pop songs of the day. They were simple but catchy, and they were packaged in a way that nobody had ever seen or heard before. As they became better and better musicians, they branched out into more complex arrangements — their songs became more “experimental“ for lack of a better word. Somewhere around Revolver, things started to get really interesting.
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I’m loving the Martin Scorsese Masterclass. I don’t know how long it will last but Masterclass is running a buy one get one special at the moment. So, you can get an all access pass for yourself and one for a friend or family member. I don’t have any sort of affiliation with Masterclass, I just have really been enjoying some of the classes they have available.
Also, a listener sent me a video by a photographer named Jamie Windsor who raises some interesting points around the ethics of street photography. The hinge pin of his argument against street photography centers around whether or not you can accurately represent a culture that you are not a part of. It’s an interesting question and honestly something I need a bit more time with. It may even be worth reaching out to Jamie for a conversation.
And lastly, if you like astronauts and pop culture, you’re going to love the work of painter Scott Listfield. Not only does he have terrific technique, there’s a great sense of both irony and humor to his work.
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There’s a scene in the new remake of A Star is Born that’s been rattling around in my head since I saw the film. It’s the scene where Bradley Cooper’s character Jackson is talking to Lady Gaga’s character Ally about self-expression and finding her voice. Jackson says, “Look, talent comes everywhere, but having something to say and a way to say it so that people listen to it, that’s a whole other bag. And unless you get out there and you try to do it, you’ll never know. That’s just the truth. And if there’s one reason that we’re supposed to be here it’s to say something so that people want to hear it. So you gotta grab it. And you don’t apologize or worry about why they’re listening or how long they’re gonna be listening for. You just tell them what you want to say.”
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8 Artists on Painting is a terrific video which features interviews with artists including Michael Simpson, Cecily Brown, and David Hockney talking about painting and making art, whatever that means.
Painter David Salle talks about joining abstraction and figuration and language and not really knowing where a painting will end up when he begins.
Photographer Troy Colby explores the idea of what a father should be in his long term photo essay, The Fragility of Fatherhood
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When I was a kid, there was a big department store chain called The May Company. It was sort of like a Macy’s and the one nearest our house was at an outdoor mall called the Eastland Center. In the lower level of The May Company, they had an art supply section and whenever I would go there with my mom, she would let me stay there in the art supply section while she went shopping. I still remember the smells of pencils and the oil paints and to this day, the smell of art supplies takes me right back there. They even had little pads of scratch paper so you could try out the different things. So I did. I was in heaven and I would just plop down in the middle of one of the aisles and doodle away until my mom came to get me. Sometimes, she would let me get one of the fancy drawing pencils without an eraser on the end so that I could continue my budding masterpieces at home.
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I read a story on TechCrunch about protections for freelancers in what they call the gig economy. Did you know that last year more than 1 out of 3 people worked as freelancers? That’s nearly 60 million people, and the numbers are growing. It’s a fascinating read.
LA-based photographer Elizabeth Weinberg recently did an AMA with booooooom.com readers and she talks about some of the strategies that worked for her when she was just starting her business. While it’s primarily focused on photography, I think a lot of it applies to illustrators, writers, really anyone trying to establish or grow your business as a freelancer.
Artpil and Maison have released their 30 Under 30 Women Photographers list and there is some stunning work on it and definitely a few I would like to reach out to as potential guests on Process Driven.
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“I want to love taking pictures of whatever it is. It’s making something interesting out of everyday objects that intrigues me.”
Kevin Mullins never planned on being a wedding photographer – or any kind of photographer really. His daily routine was a two and a half hour tube ride each way to an IT job in central London. One one particular ride home, he flipped open a magazine someone had left on the seat to an article about wedding photography. The candid black and white photos struck a chord with Kevin and when he got home to his wife, he told her that’s what he wanted to do. I’ll let Kevin fill in the details, but over the past decade, he has shot hundreds of weddings and he has developed a terrific documentary shooting style that allows him to forget about the obvious or more traditional shot list — the rings, the cake, the dress hanging in a tree or in front of a window — and instead focus on the smaller personal stories that make up the bigger story of the day. The end results are intimate and allow us as viewers of the pictures to feel more like we were part of the goings on, rather than simply watching them from the periphery.
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Website: https://www.kevinmullinsphotography.co.uk
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At the end of 1999, I bought my first new car: a 2000 Chevy Blazer Sport in black, with a dark grey interior. I had never bought a new car before and the purchase process took months. Literally. I think I test drove every car available under $30,000 — multiple times. It got to the point where sales people at several local dealerships knew me by name. As it turned out, the local Chevy dealer was owned by the father of a guy I went to high school with, who ended up making me a great deal on the Blazer — I think in part so I would stop coming in to test drive his cars. Still, I loved that car and drove it for more than a decade before trading it in. When I decided to upgrade to a new mic, I tested more than 20 different mics — condensers, dynamics, even a couple ribbon mics — before landing on the ElectroVoice RE320 that I currently use. And then there’s my search for a new camera, which was a running joke for about five of the six years of doing On Taking Pictures. The point is, I do an exhaustive amount of research on the tools I buy. On the upside, once I finally get to a decision, I rarely have buyer’s remorse. Seller’s remorse is another story — specifically, a mint-condition Nikon F2AS with 50mm f/1.2 lens that I still don’t know why I sold.
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Freakonomics Radio recently did an episode called How to be Creative where they asked a bunch of academics, artists, musicians, scientists, and inventors: how do you define creativity?
Photographer Nick Brandt just launched a teaser for his next body of work called This Empty World, which as he writes “addresses the escalating destruction of the natural world at the hands of humankind.” It looks like another stunning body of work and I’m looking forward to getting the opportunity to talk to Nick about it.
I’ve recently finished the latest season of The Man in the High Castle and in watching was reminded how much I love the opening titles, which were done by a company called Elastic, who also did Westworld, The Crown, The Punisher and a ton of other really terrific work.
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“Those villagers living on the front line — that’s the part that got me the most. Those people have nowhere else to go.”
I have been fascinated by photojournalism and specifically combat or conflict photojournalism since first seeing the work of Larry Burrows when I was in high school. His photographs of Vietnam showed a side of war that I hadn’t seen before — not just the atrocities, but also the personal stories and the human cost of conflict. A few months back, Sean Tucker and I were having a conversation about conflict photography and he told me about a friend of his who had gone to Ukraine to photograph the war there after deciding that street photography wasn’t giving him the photographic experience he was looking for. His name is Ondřej Vachek, and after looking at his pictures and reading his accompanying essay called The Forgotten War, I knew I wanted to talk to him about not only the experience itself, but also about some of the back story and choices that led up to it.
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Website: https://www.ondrejvachek.com/
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“It’s not where you go that really is the point, it’s the going. It’s the person you become in the going to these places.”
I first spoke to David duChemin in 2009 after reading his book Within the Frame. Since then, we’ve recorded a number of conversations together and in addition to being a fan of both his words and his pictures, I’m proud to call him a friend. We begin the conversation talking about David’s new book Pilgrims & Nomads — a body of work that has taken him nearly twelve years and multiple trips to Ethiopia and Northern Kenya to produce. As is often the case when David and I sit down, the conversation quickly seems to find its own rhythm and its own direction.
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Website: https://davidduchemin.com
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Yesterday was our first day back from a 9-day working vacation in France and Germany and I’ve got to tell you, I still haven’t fully readjusted to East Coast time, but I wanted to talk a little about the trip while it was still fresh in my mind. I spent the bulk of the day yesterday taking a first pass at photos and making notes about the some of the experiences we had and how I would like to see them affecting me moving forward. Overall, I came back incredibly inspired, both in terms of conversations I’d like to record and some new directions and techniques I would like to explore in my own work, both photographically and in my paintings.
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Legendary conflict photojournalist Don McCullin has released a beautiful new book called The Landscape.
Designed in the USSR: 1950-1989 is a terrific look into the design of everyday life in the Soviet Union throughout the Cold War, from toys to propaganda.
The current issue of Egoïste magazine — volume 11, number 18 — features an absolutely gorgeous photo essay of Jessica Chastain by Ellen von Unwerth. I love that the magazine isn’t bound — it’s just a series of loose leaf pages in a cover.
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I had a friend in college—let’s call him Michael—who was one of the most interesting people I had ever met up to that point in my life. He was the first person I’d met who had…almost an “aura” about him, for lack of a better word, along with several unique qualities that just made him fascinating to be around. He wasn’t what you would call a “goth” per se, but his appearance was striking. His hair would change often, both in color and style, he was typically clad in black, wore eyeliner, a variety of rings and bracelets, and even had black painted fingernails. I met Michael through a mutual friend in the theater department and what I found most interesting was that he didn’t seem to be playing a part or persona, this was just who he was at the time. One of the biggest influences Michael had on me was his taste in music. Michael played guitar in a band and introduced me to entire genres of music that I had never heard of before from bands like Dead Can Dance, This Mortal Coil, Cocteau Twins, and Peter Murphy. Another friend at the time—a modern dancer named “Memo”—was actually friends with Peter and years later invited me to see him, along with Nine Inch Nails at a little club in Atlanta—but I’ll save that story for another time.
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One thing my dad and I had in common was our love of westerns. When I was little, many weekend afternoons were spent on the sofa watching the likes of John Wayne, Gary Cooper, and Clint Eastwood. Photographer Mark Parascandola visits some of the ghost towns that Hollywood built, and then abandoned, that dot the landscape of southwestern Spain.
Here’s an archive of just a small portion of the incredible design and layout work that Chris Ashworth has created for RayGun magazine.
GQ magazine recently sat down with Paul McCartney and asked him to break down some of some of his most iconic songs, both from The Beatles and from Wings. It’s interesting to hear how the songs came about and which ones still carry weight.
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Next month, we will have been in this house for two years and it’s taken me all of that time to finally get around to beginning the build out of the two basement spaces that will ultimately become my studios — one for podcasting and digital media and the other for painting and printing. The previous owners of the house were both makers—he was a woodworker and an engineer and she was a painter. Together, they literally built the house in 1956 and in fact one of the downstairs spaces served as a wood shop where the living room built-ins and the kitchen cabinets were made. So there’s a history of making here and I knew before we even bought the house and moved in that I wanted at least one of the spaces downstairs as a studio, and I think I even told Adrianne that I would start building it out on day one. But here we are two years later and still no studio. What happened? I think like so many creative endeavors, it has something to do with fear, or what Steven Pressfield calls “Resistance.” And before I go much further, if you are a maker or a creator and have not read The War of Art, either pause this episode and go order yourself a copy or write yourself a note to pick one up after. It may take a couple readings to really get it, but once it sinks in, it will offer a ton of insight into the creative process and how self-doubt and fear can be debilitating until you get a handle on them.
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Filmmaker Brian Carlson made a terrific short film about lawnmower racing called 41x.
Lens Culture recently shared a brilliant photo essay by photographer Michael Christopher Brown called Yo Soy Fidel. In the essay, Brown follows the “Freedom Caravan” that carried Fidel Castro’s remains across Cuba after his death. It’s a gorgeous set of photographs.
One of my favorite artists, Shepard Fairey, just completed the largest piece of his career. It’s a 15 story mural of Johnny Cash that takes up the entire side of the Residence Inn hotel in Sacramento. The mural was inspired by a photograph by Jim Marshall of Cash at Folsom Prison and in this interview with Capital Public Radio, Fairey talks about how the piece came together.
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In this episode, I want to talk about prints. You remember prints, right–little pieces of paper with pictures on them? Your parents probably had albums or maybe boxes of them that you would flip through on holidays or birthdays or the night before you went off to college.
The act of printing photographs has changed dramatically since I bought my first camera in 1982—necessarily so. With film cameras, you had to make prints—even just contact prints—to see what you shot, unless of course you were shooting slides. But even then, if you were regularly shooting slides, chances are you had a slide projector and one of those clumsy fold up screens, or at least a favorite wall. The point is, the act of looking at photos used to be a completely separate act than that of taking photos, since film offered no way to chimp as you shot. With digital, it’s all more or less the same process: shoot, look at what you shot. If you missed it or it wasn’t quite right, you do it again and if you did get it, you move on. And once you post that shot to social media, you may never look at it again, other than to check the number of likes.
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Recently, a friend turned me on to the work of a Russian photographer named Daria Belikova, whose work is absolutely stunning. It’s a little Tim Walker, a little Mario Testino, and a little Paolo Roversi all wrapped up into one terrific body of work.
Lead Foo Fighter and former Nirvana drummer Dave Grohl has released a new documentary called Play that “celebrates the rewards and challenges of dedicating one’s life to playing and mastering a musical instrument.” The film shows Dave playing every musical part of a 23 minute instrumental track, all recorded live.
If you’re a fan of drawing sketching or journaling, you’ll love The Moleskine Project, which is a collective exhibition of artists’ sketchbooks from around the world from a variety of different backgrounds.
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A couple weeks ago, I spoke to a friend from college who I hadn’t spoken to in…well, longer than it should have been. It’s something I’m really trying to work on, but as you probably know, sometimes life gets in the way. Anyway, during the course of our conversation catching up on what was happening in each other’s lives, he told me that my design professor and the person who was really the cornerstone of the entire technical theatre department had passed away last year. I hadn’t spoken to him since 1989, but the news of his passing left me a little gutted. Herb Camburn was a scenic designer, a costume designer, a director, and an artist. He was one of the most talented people I had ever met, let alone had the pleasure of studying under. When explaining a particular concept, he would routinely grab a pen or pencil and begin to draw—sometimes a costume rendering, other times a scenic elevation—but regardless of what he was drawing, the execution was always impeccable. The real art, however, was that he would make his drawings upside down—either seated or standing—from across the table, so that they would be right side up for the intended viewer, who on more than one occasion was me. I had enormous respect for him and for the skill he made look so effortless. He was gruff, at times incredibly difficult (at least this was the memory of my early twenty-something self), and if praise ever did escape his lips, it meant the world because you knew that you’d earned it.
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The Fantastic Flying Books of Mr. Morris Lessmore is an Academy Award-winning homage to the printed page and the love of books based on a book by William Joyce.
Here’s the trailer and a behind the scenes look at a short called The Lost Property Office and one of the things that I absolutely love about this stop-motion film is the fact that everything in it was hand made out of cardboard by filmmaker Daniel Agdag. Be sure to watch the behind the scenes clip to see how some of it came together.
Bill Sienkiewicz is a giant in the comics industry, has worked on books for both DC and Marvel and is probably best known for illustrating Moon Knight and the Frank Miller series Elektra: Assassin. In this video from The Illustration Academy, we get to an overhead look as Bill creates an illustration from start to finish and offers some insights into how he creates his signature style.
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Earlier this week, we recorded the last episode of On Taking Pictures after more than six years of weekly episodes. While the show was ostensibly about photography, the legacy of the show is 325 episodes—about 600 hours, give or take—of conversations that ranged from why we make art to whether digital is better than film. I think we spent more time asking questions than answering them, and for me, that became the main point of being there week after week. One of my favorite quotes is by Rainer Maria Rilke and while I won’t share the whole thing with you now, the core of it is to “live the questions.” By living the questions, Rilke writes, “Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing it, live along some distant day into the answer.”
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Here’s a link to the full episode of On Taking Pictures the clip was taken from: Episode 43 Artistic Monkhood
LA-based artist and photographer Natalja Kent makes incredible colorful geometric large format photographs without the use of a camera.
Here’s a terrific documentary about Japanese motorcycle culture called Motorcycle Boy. I love the way this thing is shot – it’s dripping with tons of style and energy.
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“I did small roles in big films and big roles in small films, but I was working constantly for the first six years and then, you know, the bottom kind of dropped out.”
Jude Gerard Prest is an actor, a writer, a director, and a producer with more than 700 hours of television under his belt. He’s also one of my oldest and dearest friends. In fact, I was the second person he met after moving to LA from the east coast to pursue a career in acting. Over the next 25-plus years, his hard work and dedication to his craft behind the camera has earned him the respect and friendship of some of the biggest names in Hollywood, but he’s still looking for that one great role. He’s got more integrity that just about anyone I’ve ever met, he’s taught me about perseverance, humility, and grace and I love him like a brother.
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We Can Get Them For You Wholesale
IMDb: Jude Gerard Prest
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Tomorrow would have been my mom’s 74th birthday and while not a day goes by that I don’t miss her, I am grateful for the life I was allowed to share with her. She was generous, compassionate, and the most unconditionally loving person I have ever met. She always encouraged me to embrace the quirky, creative side of myself and insisted that following my passion meant not holding back and always giving 100%. As a child, my mom was a dancer—she and her brother Jerry even appeared on The Jack Parr Show together. A few years later, Jerry decided that “dancing was for sissies,” then life ultimately got in the way and my mom eventually gave it up too. While a life as a professional dancer was not to be, music was still an important part of her life. Even after I came along, our house was always filled with music—mostly Motown. I grew up on a steady musical diet of artists like Diana Ross, Stevie Wonder, Gladys Knight, Marvin Gaye, and the Jackson 5. But when she wasn’t grooving to the sounds coming out of Hitsville USA, she was listening to Elvis.
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Here’s a link to the 1999 Charlie Rose Interview with Richard Avedon that I referenced in this episode.If you enjoy that, you may also like this terrific documentary about Avedon called Darkness and Light.
The artist Christo has just unveiled his latest installation, called The London Mastaba—a 600 ton pyramid made of brightly painted 55-gallon drums. The whole gigantic thing is floating in Serpentine Lake in London.
I know I’m a little late to the game on this, but if you want to either deepen or broaden your musical knowledge, check out allmusic.com. It’s an incredible resource that has not only album reviews, but also shows connections to similar artists and recommendations for the best albums within a given artist’s discography . The site even offers suggestions for albums based on your current mood. For example, feeling ironic? Check out Elvis Costello’s Trust, Blur’s Modern Life is Rubbish, or David Bowie’s Aladdin Sane – terrific record by the way.
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E3 was last week and for those of you who may not know what that is, it’s the Electronic Entertainment Expo and if you’re a gamer, it’s like Mecca. Every year, game studios and indie developers descend on the LA convention center for the chance to show the games the’ve been working on, sometimes for years. E3 is full sensory overload—a barrage of sight and sound from the minute you walk through the doors and I love it. Like many kids who grew up in the 70s, I’ve been hooked on video games from the moment I unwrapped my Atari 2600 on Christmas morning in 1977. With each new console, my addiction only grew—the NES, the N64, the Gamecube, the Wii, the Xbox, all of the Playstations. My favorite console was the Dreamcast, by a long shot. I remember being at E3 in 1999 when the Dreamcast launched against the announcement of the Playstation 2. Sony had the budget (and a DVD player), but Sega had the heart. In the end, the PS2 won the battle and became the best-selling console of all time but I think for many of us, there was something about the Dreamcast that transcended Megahertz and Gigaflops.
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Here’s a short documentary on Hiroh Kikai, a Japanese photographer who has spent decades taking portraits of strangers against a the same wall outside a temple in Asakusa, Japan.
The New York Times magazine released a special issue completely devoted to love and photographer Ryan McKinley shot for 24 hours straight to capture all 24 portraits that were used as covers and distributed at random to subscribers and newsstands.
French painter Mark Maggiori brilliantly captures the mood, colors, and spirit of the American West in his drawings and paintings.
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Kristopher Matheson is a photographer living in Tokyo after leaving Canada for a teaching position that was only supposed to last six months to a year. Twelve years later, he’s still there and has made Tokyo his home, at least for now. I was introduced to him through the terrific photos he began to post in the On Taking Pictures Google+ group. His images showed a side of Tokyo that I hadn’t really seen before – his composition and use of color made the photos somehow more personal and intimate, despite the fact that people are virtually absent from them. Kristopher and I have become friends over the past several years through calls and emails that are sometimes frequent, sometimes sporadic. But regardless of how often we talk, it seems like every exchange ends up being a slice of a larger ongoing discussion, where questions are raised and sometimes answered and rabbit holes are explored, often over the course of several interactions.
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Website: https://www.krismatheson.com
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There’s a saying in photography that goes “pretty light plus a pretty subject equals a pretty picture.” And if you believe that, then you might be tempted to form an opinion about who Gareth Lewis is based solely on the provocative nature of his portfolio, but you’d be wrong. After booking a one-way flight from his native London to Australia, Gareth found himself a stranger in a strange land. Before settling in Melbourne, he spent the first year driving over 24,000 kilometers exploring Australia in a “Miami White” station wagon. Along the way, he picked tomatoes, clipped mandarins, and even did a brief stint as a jackaroo before eventually finding his way to a camera.
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Joshua K Jackson is a terrific street photographer from London. On paper he’s relatively new to the genre, but his already stunning body of work is every bit as compelling as those by some of his photographic heroes. Though Josh is quick to point out that he still has a lot to learn, his dedication to photography as both an art and a craft is immediately evident in his use of bold color and superb composition to communicate mood and narrative. While he often leaves the house with any sort of expectation or agenda, he says that the energy and buzz of the city is like fuel to keep shooting, especially since you never know what the scene could be just around the next corner.
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Website: https://www.joshkjack.com/
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Recently, I was talking to a friend of mine about Process Driven and he asked me why I did the show. Not from the standpoint of having the conversations, but rather why release them into the world. “What do you get out of it?” he asked. As I thought about it for a bit, I really couldn’t come up with an answer—no one that was coherent anyway. I’ve been thinking about it ever since—a lot—and I think I’ve come up with an answer—at least a partial answer and that it this. Throughout my life there have been a handful of people—and I’m talking about people other than family—who have taken an interest in me that went above and beyond what was expected and as a result of that interest, either subtly or dramatically altered the trajectory of my life.
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In addition to being an incredible film director, Stanley Kubrick was also a photographer. A new book called Through a Different Lens showcases around 300 of Kubrick’s images, many of which have never been seen publicly.
He may have been born Usher Felig, but at 14, he quit school and began photographing for newspapers and ultimately became famous as Weegee. Christopher Bananos chronicles Weegee’s life and career in FLASH The Making of Weegee the Famous.
Yuni Yoshida is a Japanese graphic designer and art director whose work I am absolutely loving.
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Simon Baxter is a fantastic landscape photographer from the north of England who I was introduced to by Sean Tucker. There’s something about Simon’s photographs that goes beyond light and composition and draws the viewer into the scene, rather than simply holding us at the periphery. Simon’s passion for photography and his connection to the local woodlands where he photographs are obvious from the moment you look at his body of work. What may not be obvious, however, is the amount of pain Simon often has to endure in order to produce them, and how none of it would be possible without a labradoodle named Meg.
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Website: https://baxter.photos
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Kent Hall is tough to categorize. On one hand he’s a photographer who makes books. On the other, he’s a collage artist who makes books. But he’s also a poet—and yes, a poet who makes books. His fascination with the mundane and the detritus of modern life are the raw materials for much of what he creates and whether he’s being inspired by film or literature or simply watching the city move around him, his growing body of work gets more and more interesting with every new expression.
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Lately I’ve been seeing, or maybe just noticing, the word “iconic” as a means for makers to describe their own work—“my name is so and so and I make iconic portraits of whatever…,” and I’ve got to tell you, I’m having a hard time with how it’s being used.
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The Atlantic posted a terrific article on how the “Nifty 50” became the goto lens for many photographers.
If you’ve ever thought about making your own photo book, you’ll want to check out this PDN article on the art and process of sequencing your images for photobooks.
If you love model trains and miniatures, here’s a fascinating documentary about two brothers who quit their jobs to create Miniatur Wunderland a massive miniature city that has become the most popular tourist attraction in Germany.
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One of the biggest struggles as a maker, regardless of what it is that you’re making, can be finding meaning in what you make. Whether you’re a painter, or a sculptor, or a writer, or a photographer, finding meaning in a particular project is often one of the obstacles that prevents us from starting, or can be one of the challenges to overcome in order to finish. As someone who spends a great deal of time talking to creative people, I often hear about projects at the poles, either early in the planning stages, or after the work has been completed, but rarely in the middle — which can be a challenge to talk about because there are often themes and ideas that haven’t quite come together yet. Oli Kellett is a street photographer from the UK who’s 18 months into a multi year project that brings him to America several times a year to photograph cities and the people who inhabit them.
At its core, the project is about crossroads, but as you’ll hear in this conversation, Oli is still wrestling with the literal representation — those few moments before the light has changed that leave us alone with our thoughts — to the symbolism and myth of the crossroads that draws a line from the ancient Greeks to a young guitar player from Mississippi who made a deal with the devil just outside Memphis.
LINKS
PDN Photo Annual
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Website: https://www.olikellett.com
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Nick Mayo is a terrific street photographer from Grand Rapids, Michigan who is using YouTube and Instagram to build a platform centered around serving the photographic community and having an ongoing dialog discussing the challenges of making and sharing authentic work. His Two Minute Tuesdays for example are live weekly snapshots of some of the things he’s wrestling with not only as a visual artist, but also as a human being. In this conversation we discuss the value of revisiting a favorite location again and again and how being a little outside his comfort zone, is exactly where he likes to be.
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YouTube: http://youtube.com/nickexposed
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Facebook: @NickExposed
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As much as I love artists like Rauschenberg, deKooning and even Boucher, the first artist I knew by name was Frank Frazetta. He painted worlds I had never seen before, filled with warriors being pulled by a team of polar bears, red eyed demons on horseback and beautiful scantily clad maidens. I poured over his books, meticulously copying my favorite characters. While it was great drawing practice, I wasn’t doing anything original. I had sketchbooks filled with Frazetta drawings, but not one that was a Saddoris.
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I’m loving the work of Canadian illustrator Terry Edward Elkins. He has a terrific style that reminds me of vintage national parks posters and some of my favorite children’s book illustrators.
Questlove is a monster. He’s the founder and drummer for the Roots, a DJ, a producer, a professor, and an author. As you’ll hear in this NPR conversation, he also has some really inspiring thoughts around creativity.
Israeli photographer Natan Dvir was the winner of the 2017 Lens Culture Emerging Talent award. His project Platforms takes viewers below the streets of New York to “investigate the interactions (or lack thereof) between the city’s commuters.”
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Trying to make a living as a professional photographer is hard, really hard. You might get into it thinking that all you’re going to do is take pictures, but it doesn’t take long to realize that time with a camera in your hands is only a small part of a what’s required day to day. It’s even harder when you’re also working a full-time job. But Freddy Clark is doing the work. He’s taking his passion for photography, an encyclopedic knowledge of beer, and a background in IT and is steadily building a new career as a food and beverage photographer, and it all started at a small rock ’n’ roll radio station in the Poconos.
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Website: http://santephoto.com
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Dutch street photographer Maarten Rots makes the kind of pictures that the graphic designer in me can’t get enough of. His purposeful compositions are made up of strong lines, bold colors, and subtle overlapping textures with just enough visual ambiguity to pull me in and ask myself, “what is that?” It’s the type of work that I seldom grow tired of and often find new details the more I look at it. In his self-published magazine March & Rock, Maarten’s work takes on a different dimension when it’s no longer confined to a phone or a browser and it’s exactly this project that I wanted to talk to him about.
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Website: http://maartenrots.nl
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Earlier today, Bill and I recorded episode 312 of On Taking Pictures and while I wouldn’t say it was our best show—it was a good show. I think every show is a good show for one reason or another. It was one of the more significant shows because of the number—episode 312. If you do the math, 312 marks the end of six years of doing On Taking Pictures every week and while I’ve talked in the past about what doing OTP has meant to me and what I’ve learned from it, how it has changed my life and the new friends I have as a result of it, those things are really byproducts of doing the work.
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Christopher Burkett is a landscape photographer who uses a large format 8×10 film camera and discontinued Cibacrome paper to make stunning photographs of the natural world. Unfortunately, when Christopher runs out of paper, he will put away his camera and turn out the lights in his darkroom for the last time.
Sanderson to Brackettville is short documentary made by filmmaker Parker Hill as she followed photographer Jason Lee on a four-day stretch in West Texas as he attempted “to document residual American landscapes across Texas in early 2017 with large format color films” for his new book A Plain View.
If you are a fan of classic movies and terrific graphic design, Indiewire has you covered with this fantastic collection of every movie poster iconic graphic design Saul Bass ever created.
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Sean Tucker is a photographer in London who I was introduced to by an On Taking Pictures listener who emailed me and told me “you have to see this guy’s work. I think it’s right up your alley.” He was right. Sean’s work is terrific, but it was his YouTube channel—how he approaches and speaks about photography and creativity—that was even more up my alley. As you’ll hear, Sean is honest, insightful, and the dedication he has to the craft of photography really shines through. We begin this episode at a point in the conversation where we were talking about some of the challenges commercial photographers face working with clients, specifically when your ability as a photographer to simply shoot the brief seems more important than having the talent and creativity to go beyond it.
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Website: http://seantucker.photography/
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Twitter: @seantuck
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I was introduced to Karl Taylor in 2010 when a friend gave me one of his photography training DVDs. Karl’s energy and enthusiasm for photography along with his incredible knowledge of how to make great pictures in virtually any situation really set him as my benchmark of what photographic training should be. He also has a brilliant way of bringing a fashion style and sensibility to commercial and product photography. Karl lives in the Channel Islands between England and France, and when he came to California in 2012 for a production, I got a chance to spend some time with him and his team in Long Beach and Joshua Tree and we’ve been friends ever since. In this conversation, Karl and I discuss the business side of creativity. I began by asking him to talk about how changes in the industry nearly forced him to close the doors of his studio earlier this year.
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Website: karltaylorportfolio.com
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There are some photographs that just stick with you — images that once you see them, you simply can’t unsee. It happens across virtually all genres of photography. A single image, a particular project or an entire body of work seeps into our being and becomes a point of reference along an internal visual continuum. When I first saw the work of Nick Brandt, it was unlike anything I had ever seen. His photographs taken in East Africa transcended any wildlife photography that I had seen before. Nick is somehow able to photograph the souls of the animals, not just their image or likeness. In his newest body of work, called Inherit the Dust, Nick returns to East Africa to show how habitat loss as a result of population explosion and urbanization are dramatically changing the landscape and threatening biodiversity and the continued existence of species that roamed the plains of Africa for thousands of years prior to the proliferation of man. It’s a fascinating conversation and an incredibly powerful body of work.
LINKS
Big Life Foundation
Amboseli Park
Fitzcarraldo
Apocalypse Now
The Godfather
Godfather, Part II
The Conversation
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty
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When I was a junior in high school I took my first photography class and one of the things we had to do before we got to shoot with the “real” cameras — in our case, they were Pentax K1000s loaded with Tri-X — was to build a pinhole camera from one of the round Quaker Oats boxes. And I remember thinking how incredible it was to see the simplicity of what photography is: light and time. Not even a lens — just a strip of gaffer tape covering a tiny hole in some tinfoil. But there we all were, toting our oatmeal boxes around making pictures. Then we would go into the darkroom and print little positive contact prints from the paper negatives and I’ve gotta tell you, it was alchemy. For us, the pinhole camera was just a stepping stone to get to use an SLR. In this episode, I’m talking to Jon Wilkening a photographer in Philadelphia who uses pinhole as his preferred platform for communicating his creativity. For Jon, pinhole is his tool of choice for expressing his point of view. Jon calls his work “the blurry middle between photography and painting.” His pictures are terrific and it all started sort of by accident.
LINKS
Holga Pinhole Camera
David duChemin
Ernst Haas
CONNECT WITH JON
Website: jonwilkening.com
Twitter: @jonwilkening
Instagram: @jonwilkening
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In the last episode, I had a conversation with Glenn D’Cruze from North Atlantic Explorers, who I was introduced to by a listener of On Taking Pictures. In this episode, my guest was recommended to me by one of my favorite photographers, John Keatley. A month or so ago I reached out to John and asked if he knew anyone who he thought would be interesting for me to talk to. He responded with two names, one of whom is my guest on this episode. Whether you know Tom Deslongchamp as an illustrator, an animator or even a ninja, he’s every bit an artist, both in the work that he makes and in how and why he makes it. In this episode, Tom and I talk about the importance of play, wrestling with labels and self-identification and his need to be in love with what he makes.
LINKS
Jukabox – You Cried Me
David Shrigley
No Talking Plz
Crayola Markers
The Gift: Creativity and the Artist…
CONNECT WITH TOM
Website: tomdeslongchamp.com
Twitter: @tomthinks
Instagram: @tomthinks
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In this episode, I’m doing something a little different. One of the goals I’ve had for Process Driven from the beginning has been to expand the scope of the conversations I have beyond visual arts as an exploration into how and where creativity overlaps, regardless of the discipline. In this episode I’m sitting down with Glenn D’Cruze, a Canadian musician who records under the name North Atlantic Explorers. I was introduced to Glenn’s music by a listener of my other podcast, On Taking Pictures who emailed and asked if he could send me one of Glenn’s CDs. I’m so grateful that he did. My Father was a Sailor is a gorgeous atmospheric homage to Glenn’s late father, who was an engineer on merchant ships in the North Atlantic during the 1950s. After his father died, Glenn embarked on a journey of his own that ultimately took him from his home in Vancouver to the seas sailed by his father nearly six decades earlier — and it all began with a pair of drum sticks and a stack of cardboard boxes.
LINKS
BBC Shipping Forecasts
Sailing By
Freedy Johnston – We Will Shine
Belle & Sebastian – A Space Boy Dream
Dream Academy – Life in a Northern Town
FEATURED SONGS
Into the Blue Sea
Glasgow, Circa 1952
Hebrides, Bailey, Fair Isle
Yarborough
The Sailor & The Stenographer
CONNECT WITH GLENN
Website: North Atlantic Explorers
Twitter: @northatlanticxp
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A few months ago, I attended a talk that Dan Winters gave at the Smithsonian and one of the things that struck me straight away was the language he used to describe his relationship to his work. I’ve been a fan for years and own a few of his books, but I never had the opportunity to hear him speak before. There’s such emotion and romance in how he relates to his work, especially in the making or the doing as he calls it. Words like “reverence” and “gratitude” are used often and as you’ll hear in this conversation, these aren’t simply buzzwords. They apply equally whether he’s shooting a campaign for a client or walking by himself through the streets of New York with a 50mm lens and a few rolls of Tri-X. There’s an incredible authenticity to Dan that seems to pervade his entire life, from the work that he does to the people and things he surrounds himself with. I began by asking Dan where his love of making began and how he stays connected to it 30 years in.
LINKS
Kazimer Malevich
Chris Callis
Harry Callahan
W. Eugene Smith
Alfred Steiglitz
Paul Strand
Robert Frank
Mark Kelley
Al Reinert
The Grey Ghost
Portrait of an American Hero… (Smithsonian)
CONNECT WITH DAN
Website: http://danwintersphoto.com
Instagram: @danwintersphoto
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In 1976, William Eggleston opened his first color show at MoMA, the reviews were fairly polarized. To some of the art establishment, color photography was for snapshots and not to be taken seriously and black and white was the only true photographic art form. But while one critic called the show “perfectly banal”, another called it a milestone and said that after it black and white would seem slightly quaint and precious. In the 40 years since, it’s almost impossible, at least for me, to imagine a photographic world without color. Don’t get me wrong, I love black and white and spent years shooting only black and white but there’s something to be said for the work of photographers like Fred Herzog, Steve McCurry and Saul Leiter. We see in color and when it’s done right, photography can help us see our world differently through color, which is one of the things I love about the work of Ben Thomas. In Ben’s series Chroma, color becomes almost a character, a necessary element to help communicate the narrative behind the work. When I first saw it, I knew I wanted to talk to him. What I found is that each series that he’s done over the past several years is an exploration of composition, texture and color—and it all began with a project called Cityshrinker.
LINKS
Olivo Barbieri
Anreas Gursky
Vincent Laforet
Villa Lena
Henry the Worst
CONNECT WITH BEN
Website: http://benthomas.co
Twitter: @___benthomas
Instagram: @___benthomas
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I can’t tell you what the first photograph that I ever saw by Gregory Crewdson was, but I do remember very clearly how it made me feel — how I connected to this world. Unlike any other photographer I can think of off the top of my head, this was instantly familiar to me. This world was familiar; the plights and the struggles that these characters seemed to be going through were very much my own. Feelings of disconnect, feelings of isolation — and feelings of hope and possibility that those feelings would pass — that they were stepping stones or bridges to something better. This work resonated with me, and still does, on a very deep level. In this conversation, Gregory and I discuss his brilliant new body of work, Cathedral of the Pines, as well as the very personal journey he had to undertake to bring it to life.
LINKS
Cathedral of the Pines
Sanctuary
Beneath the Roses
UPDATE
In Process Driven 36, I had another conversation with Gregory around An Eclipse of Moths.
CONNECT WITH GREGORY
Website: http://www.gagosian.com
Twitter: @CrewdsonStudio
Instagram: @CrewdsonStudio
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“I became more and more interested in…the idea of photography. Not the technique of photography, but the idea of what photography is about and the role photography plays in our visual understanding of situations or issue or an event.”
Sam Faulkner is a photographer from the UK who for the last five years has been making portraits of reenactors for a project called Unseen Waterloo. I saw a couple images from the project at Paris Photo LA and was just blown away, so I reached out to Sam and asked if we could have a conversation about how the project came about and what inspired him to make the transition from conflict photojournalist to fine art photographer.
- NOTE: There are a couple spots in the conversation where you may notice some mic noise on Sam’s end—it sounds like the shuffling of papers. There’s such great conversation around it that I’ve attempted to minimize it as much as possible in lieu of simply removing it. I hope it’s not too much of a distraction.
LINKS
Unseen Waterloo
Somerset House
Hainsworth
Phil Cleaver
Ian Parry
Patrick Kinmonth
Mario Testino
CONNECT WITH SAM
Website: http://www.samfaulkner.co.uk
Twitter: @faulknerphotog
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In 2009 when photographer David duChemin released his first book Within The Frame, the former comedian had no idea what adding author to his resume would do to his career trajectory, saying “I think sometimes other people can peg that about us before we’re willing to say so about ourselves.” He followed up Within the Frame with TEN, an ebook that not only inspired photographers to improve their craft without buying gear, it also helped him launch his publishing company Craft & Vision. Now, more than twenty ebooks later, David has released his eighth print book, called A Beautiful Anarchy, which eschews the genre-specific pursuit of photographic vision and instead looks to unpack the deeper levels of the creativity that drives it. In this conversation, David and I discuss how leading a creative life is about more than just making art. We also talk about motivation, intent and how we can learn to repurpose some of the fears and failures that hold us back into fuel to help us move forward. It’s a fascinating conversation that I’m sure you’ll love.
LINKS
A Beautiful Anarchy
Craft & Vision
Q&A@F&B Ep. 3: David duChemin
Multitasking May Not Mean Higher Productivity (NPR)
CONNECT WITH DAVID
Website: http://davidduchemin.com
Twitter: @david_duChemin
Instagram: @davidduchemin
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After his business imploded, Dalton Campbell decided he needed a change. He sold everything he owned, packed a single backpack of clothes and essentials, grabbed his camera and left for Europe without any sort of agenda, other than to take photographs until the money ran out. His three-month trip took him to Portugal, Spain, Belgium and the French Riviera and when he returned, the resulting photo series, called Travelers, helped to launch a new career as a portrait photographer. In this conversation we talk about letting go of fear, not getting dragged down by failure and the importance of being present in the moment.
LINKS
Dalton Campbell – Travelers
Art+Work
Eric Morales
George Krause
Alejandro Jodorowsky
Thumbtack
CONNECT WITH DALTON
Website: http://www.daltoncampbell.com
Facebook: @daltoncampbellphotography
Instagram: @daltoncampbellphotography
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A unique photographic style is one of the benchmarks of a great photographer. In 2007, Tom Hoops, was working as a web designer in Thailand, unfamiliar with names like Richard Avedon, Helmut Newton, or Paolo Roversi. But, after borrowing a friend’s camera one afternoon, a new creative passion emerged and, for the past six years, Tom has been refining a style and building a body of work that is both instantly recognizable and uniquely his own. His dramatic black & white portraiture and brilliant editorial work have earned him an ardent following and are increasingly in demand, particularly in the world of fashion. I got the chance to sit down with Tom to talk about how his work has evolved, the importance of shooting what you love and why he wants his photography to be like a black polo neck.
On developing a unique style: “You should shoot what you want to put on your wall… I want dramatic, dark, powerful photos. That’s what I’d like on my wall, so that’s what I want to shoot. That’s what I should be shooting.”
On staying true to yourself: “If you don’t do what is essentially you, in terms of what is your creative vision, then what you’re going to produce is going to be a bit weak.”
When asked whether photography has made him a better person: “I don’t know if it’s made me better. It has made me more observant and I think it’s made me very keenly observant about people.”
CONNECT WITH TOM
Website: http://tomhoops.com
Twitter: @tomhoops
Instagram: @tomhoops
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