In the second episode of the third series of Get a ‘Proper’ Job, host Kayleigh Mcleod talks to Jessica Dunrod, a translator, author, activist and director of the only black owned translation firm in the UK; as well as the creative producer, award winning filmmaker, cameraman and editor Jonny Campbell, who also has a background in architecture. They discuss their eclectic career portfolios, transferable skills and the evolution of their creative careers.

Links and more information

• Outstanding by Jessica Dunrod
• Jessica Dunrod’s Go Fund Me page
• Ambassadora
• The doll test
• How might screen-based media enable people to better engage with their built environment and meaningfully contribute to its design?

Guest recommendations

• Enterprise team at Cardiff University
• Canva

This episode was recorded remotely in August 2021.

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Editor: Beca Nia Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

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