Police continue to hunt for Michael Gordon Jackson, a Carievale man wanted on a Canada-wide warrant after taking off with his daughter in violation of court orders requiring him to return seven-year-old Sarah to her mother, Mariecar Jackson. Kurt Jedel, of Carievale, Saskatchewan, joins Gormley to tell us more about Michael, his former friend. Jedel says Jackson was obsessed with taking his daughter and going on the run, and often told Jedel about his elaborate plans. Despite Michael's claim that he abducted the girl to prevent her from receiving the vaccine, Jedel says he was planning to do this long before any controversy over vaccination, and he joins Gormley to tell us more.