Corporate roles and leadership positions are often fraught with heavy handedness and a very real sense of power imbalance. Characters who perpetuate this idea that to be at the top, you have to fight and fear your way there. Then there are those people - like the guest in this episode - who with big smiles and caring words, brush that myth into the fire.

Understated, unassuming, extreme talent. That's how I think of Meagan Loader. A woman who has helped shape Australia's musical landscape through her roles at triple j, Double j and FBi Radio, building wonderful relationships across organisations that make up the nation's musical weave and by nurturing many a radio broadcaster to fame.

How does someone become so tender andhow can it work in your favour in the role of BOSS?

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