In this one, we have a conversation with our friend Rob Bell about how growth and change work. We talk about how change is baked into the whole of existence and that we are only ever going forward. We discuss what holds people back from making the changes that they want in their lives and how to become aware of and engage your internal life. He shares about what he is seeing right now and some of the beautiful changes he is observing as the last few years have sped up many societal shifts.