Tribe of Hackers Podcast: Recent Episodes

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The TRIBE OF HACKERS is a series of books written by Marcus J Carey and Jennifer Jin. This podcast features contributors to the books interviewed by Ray [REDACTED] on a wide variety of information security and information technology topics. The ToH Podcast believes in giving back to the community, so each episode will also feature a "reverse sponsor," which is one non-profit organization or social cause that the ToH Podcast would like to advocate.

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Dave is a partner at BlackThorne Consulting, where he  leads engagements against strategic assets in many industries across the globe. Dave is also a veteran of the U.S. Navy, where he spent 10 years in the intelligence and special programs communities.

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Jeffrey Man is a respected information security expert, advisor, evangelist, and co-host of the security podcast Security Weekly. He has over 35 years of experience in all aspects of computer, network, and information security. Jeffrey has held various information security roles within the DoD as well as private-sector enterprises, is a former PCI QSA, and was part of the first penetration testing “red team” at the NSA. 

Twitter: @MrJeffMan Website: securityweekly.com/hosts 

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This is a special Labor Day Quick Release celebrating the anniversary of Derbycon.

Rural Tech Fund: https://ruraltechfund.org/

Dave Kennedy has worked on cyberwarfare for the U.S. Marine Corps (USMC) and on forensics for theintelligence community, including two tours in Iraq. He has also served as the chief security officer (CSO) for a Fortune 1000 company with offices in more than 77 countries.  Then one day, he left that job and started his own.  He is the founder of TWO companies, TrustedSec and Binary Defense.  If you are an NBA fan, you might even see a logo from time to time.  He is also the founder of Derbycon, author of  UNICORN, and the Social Engineering Toolkit, has testified before congress several times, has been on TV nearly a hundred times, and is absolutely terrified bye clowns

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Angela Marafino is an Evolve Security Academy alumna, a Microsoft project manager, and the co-host of the "Hacker Book Club". 

With no prior background in IT or computer science, Angela did not take the traditional route to obtain a career in cybersecurity. However, the desire for a more challenging career led her to enroll in a cybersecurity bootcamp, which gave her the skills and mindset necessary to become a cybersecurity professional. She is CompTIA Security+ and Network+ certified and holds two bachelor’s degrees, one in fine arts and another in pre-law. Angela is also the organizer of her local Women of Security (WoSec) chapter. 

Link to Hacker Book Club:  https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1076604-the-hacker-book-club

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Note: This is a special episode with @KeirstenBrager, the closing keynote speaker for this weekend's Diana Initiative virtual conference.

Keirsten Brager is a Sr. Security Consultant/NERC-CIP SME in critical infrastructure and was recently named one of Dark Reading’s top women in security quietly changing the game. She is also the author Secure The InfoSec Bag: Six Figure Career Guide for Women in Security. She produced this resource to help women strategically plan their careers, diversify their incomes, and fire bad bosses. Keirsten holds a M.S. in Cybersecurity and several industry certifications, including GICSP & CISSP. In her free time, she loves sharing career advice, studying Black history, and convincing women not to quit the industry.Diana Initiative Schedule: https://www.dianainitiative.org/schedule/
Diana Initiative Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-diana-initiative-2020-tickets-112263061840

Topic/ Chapter List:

00:00:03 Introduction

00:02:14 Meet Keirsten

00:02:30 "Excited and Terrified"

00:04:47 Origin Story

00:07:13 Do we have a cybersecurity skills shortage?

00:08:47 Biggest myth in the industry

00:11:06 People, Process, Technology

00:12:50 Advice to those who are new

00:18:40 Cautiously Optimistic on Progress

00:20:32 Give back to the community FIRST

00:23:03 Example: Last June Job Change and Linked In

00:26:10 Uplift and be uplifted

00:26:36 The Diana Initiative http://dianainitiative.org

00:28:22 About Keirsten's keynote: SDLC

00:29:00 using SMART goals

00:31:36 What are "SMART" goals?

00:37:00 Career moves

00:39:01 "Circle of Excellence"

00:41:25 Money, money, money

00:42:20 Negotiating benefits and salary

00:44:48 Advice to a younger Keirsten

00:49:20 Signing off, wrapping up

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Tanya Janca, also known as SheHacksPurple, is the author of ‘Alice and Bob Learn Application Security’. She is also the founder of We Hack Purple, an online learning academy, community and weekly podcast that revolves around teaching everyone to create secure software. Tanya has been coding and working in IT for over twenty years, won numerous awards, and has been everywhere from startups to public service to tech giants (Microsoft, Adobe, & Nokia). She has worn many hats; startup founder, pentester, CISO, AppSec Engineer, and software developer. She is an award-winning public speaker, active blogger & streamer and has delivered hundreds of talks and trainings on 6 continents. She values diversity, inclusion and kindness, which shines through in her countless initiatives.

Founder: We Hack Purple (Academy, Community and Podcast), WoSEC International (Women of Security), OWASP DevSlop, OWASP Victoria, #CyberMentoringMonday. Chapter List:

00:00:20 Opening

00:00:47 About @SheHacksPurple

00:01:55 Tanya is here!

00:02:21 Red Team, Blue Team, Purple Team

00:04:20 Purple Trait: Empathy

00:05:02 Purple Trait: Advocacy

00:06:50 Young Coding

00:08:04 Childhood and parents

00:08:37 "The Shirt Story"

00:09:12 Discovering that Code should be secure

00:11:20 Educating Students

00:12:15 "Cross Site Scripting" meaning

00:13:52 Introducing WeHackPurple.com

00:16:52 "DevSecOps" Definition

00:19:02 Public Speaking

00:19:54 Meet WOSEC

00:22:45 Big Shoutout to Chloé Messdaghi

00:24:22 Cyber Mentoring Monday

00:26:15 Mentee Responsibilities

00:28:25 Everyone needs a mentor

00:29:56 Salary negotiations

00:32:40 Less Traveling is good.

00:34:30 Management vs. Leadership

00:37:10 Diversity and Inclusion

00:37:40 Shout out to Jane Franklin and Tara Wheeler

00:42:22 Cookies!!!

00:43:20 Advice to a younger Tanya

00:46:34 Tribe of Hackers: Security Leaders

00:49:00 Signing off, parting wisdom from Tanya

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David Evenden is the founder of StandardUser Cyber Security, an educational security firm dedicated to bringing work to freelance hackers and bringing top-tier industry-standard information security certification training to the university classroom.

David is an experienced offensive security operator with experience working in the U.S. intelligence community (IC). He learned Persian Farsi, worked at NSA Red Team, and was a member of an elite international team operating in conjunction with coalition forces to aid in the ongoing efforts in the Middle East.

Topics list:

00:00:03 Introduction

00:00:35 Meet @JediMammoth

00:01:36 Origin Story

00:06:10 Pensacola Cyber Training: Crash Course

00:08:50 NSA Red Team

00:11:20 Compartmentalization

00:13:00 Learning and Teaching

00:14:21 Making Decisions

00:14:59 Dwight Schrute (not a typo) Philosophy

00:16:02 Fatherhood and its impact

00:18:14 Challenges

00:19:52 Darknet Diaries: Episode 47 https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/47

00:22:12 Advice to a younger David

00:24:10 Blue Team Challenges

00:25:53 Mental Health Strategies

00:27:20 Social Media and Toxicity

00:29:05 Advice to Newbies

00:29:40 The Innocent Lives Foundation https://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

00:32:18 Admiration

00:34:00 Diversity

00:36:01 Increasing Participation

00:37:02 Shoutout: Lesley Carhart @Hacks4Pancakes

00:37:13 Shoutout: Katie Nickels @ILikeTheCoins

00:38:58 Virtual Conferences

00:39:50 Advice to the Burnt Out

00:41:38 Wrap up, Thanks

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sn0ww  is a social engineering professional. At DEF CON 22 she won a black badge for the Social Engineering Capture the Flag (SECTF). sn0ww was also on the winning team for SAINTCON'S Vault Physical Security challenge, which won the team a black badge. Over the last five years she has presented and taught trainings at multiple InfoSec conferences. sn0ww has performed a variety of Social Engineering assessments for clients ranging from start-ups, Fortune 100 companies, to government agencies as well as assisted consultancies build out their Social Engineering services.

Topics include:

00:00 Introduction

00:53 Professional Liar sn0ww

01:40 Origin Story: DEFCON

04:05 Social Engineering Capture the Flag

04:40 Chris Hadnagy @HumanHacker gives books and advice

07:20 Choosing Pretexts

08:50 Social Media and OSINT

10:55 Contest to Career!

12:10 Twitter incident discussion

13:00 Types of Insider threats

17:45 Human Beings are the weak link

18:30 Women and Social Engineering

20:50 Typical Engagement Description

26:46 COVID19 and Red Teaming

29:00 Red Team Community

30:25 Discussing BSides

35:00 Mental Health and COVID19

36:20 Advice to a younger sn0ww

36:58 "Darknet Diaries" episode 22

38:20 "Get out of Jail Free" card and social engineering

39:50 sn0ww gets caught

44:50 Personal advice for listeners

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Twitter: @PhillipWylie

Phillip Wylie is a penetration tester with more than 21 years of experience in information technology and information security. He is an adjunct professor teaching ethical hacking and web app pentesting at Richland College in Dallas, Texas. Phillip is the founder and director of the Pwn School Project, an educational meetup group teaching pentesting and ethical hacking skills. He holds the following certifications: OSCP, GWAPT, and CISSP.

In this episode, we will discuss:

0:00 intro

0:30 about Phillip Wylie:

01:15 Origin Story

3:03 What About Samson the Bear? About Professional Wrestling

4:29 CAD draftsman to Novell Engineer

5:45 Aer certifications important?

6:36 Blueprint to PenTesting

8:07 Advice to pentesting students

8:55 Writing and Communication Skills

10:38 The PwnSchool Project

12:15 PwnSchool starts out discussing OffSec, but expands to many more topics

14:06 ITSP Podcast on Origins

15 :30 BADASS army @KatelynBowden

17:00 Non Consensual Image Abuse and BADASS Army

18:34 COVID19 and Conference Appearances- the good and bad

20:32 Phillip finds Tribeof Hackers

21:36 Mentorship and the awesomeness of @DHAhole

22:35 Giving back

23:50 Mental Health and helping others——

25:26 Everyone has something to share

27:34 What does “Hacker” mean

28:30 People Phillip admires

29:45 DeWayne Johnson chit chat—

30:40 community

31:30 Advice to a younger Phillip Wylie

32:15 Phillip on twitter: @PhillipWylie Youtube: PLWylie. Personal website TheHackerMaker.com And PwnSchool.com

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Emily Crose is a security researcher and professional with over 10 years of experience including a total of 7 between being an officer for the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency.

Time Stamps/ Topic List

00:00:00 Introduction to Episode 11, Emily Crose

00:01:17 History of Hacking

00:02:49 MELISSA.vir

00:05:50 Career Start at NSA

00:07:38 Hunt Methodology and OSINT

00:14:02 Comic Sans is evil and must be destroyed

00:16:05 Muckrock   http://Muckrock.com

00:18:20 Conspiracy Theories

00:26:41 Privacy Questions

00:31:49 Are we safer?

00:35:20 Optimistic Words from Emily, Wrap up

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In this episode, industry pioneer Chris Hadnagy explains the role of psychology, empathy, and personal growth in the Social Engineering field.

Here are some of the topics covered:

0:00 Content Warning: Child Abuse, Child Sexual Trauma
00:30 Introduction to Episode 10 featuring Chris Hadnagy
01:30 Chris in retrospect: teenage years, 20s, computers, and then “Social Engineering”
03:30 What is social Engineering?
05:00 Psychology’s Role in the Framework
10:22 Social Engineering: Is there anything that is “off limits”?
12:00 "Find another Way"
14:20 The Origin Story of The Innocent Lives Foundation, @InnocentOrg
18:50 The Infosec industry and CST (Childhood Sexual Trauma)
20:00 Innocent Lives Foundation Non-Vigilantism, Mental Health and Safety
22:30 Chris's Advice to anyone who finds CP
23:50 A Shocking Statistic about Child Predators
25:00 Capture the Flags and the Establishment of the SECTF at DEFCON17 (shoutout to @DarkTangent)
28:00 What is the SECTF?
29:40 SE Village as an "Oasis"
30:45 OSINT's role
33:00 Alethe and Rachel have changed the entire game of social engineering
34:00 Chris's philosophy on being a boss
37:08 Unconditional praise for Ryan McDougall
38:20 Entrepreneurship and Risk
44:40 "Cooking Through" COVID19 Isolation
46:30 Virtual Workers, Virtual Teams
50:30 Advice to a younger Chris
52:00 Wrap up: How you can help Innocent Lives Foundation

About Chris:

Christopher Hadnagy is the founder and CEO of Social-Engineer, LLC, and the CEO of the nonprofit Innocent Lives Foundation. Chris possesses more than 17 years of experience as a practitioner and researcher in the security field. His efforts in training, education, and awareness have helped to expose social engineering as the top threat to the security of organizations today.

Chris established the world’s first social engineering penetration testing framework at www.social-engineer.org, providing an invaluable repository of information for security professionals and enthusiasts. That site grew into a dynamic web resource, including a podcast and a newsletter, which have become staples in the security industry and are referenced by large organizations around the world. Chris also created the first hands-on social engineering training course and certification, Advanced Practical Social Engineering, attended by law enforcement, military, and private-sector professionals.

In 2017, he started an InfoSec community initiative nonprofit called The Innocent Lives Foundation. He gathered experts from the field in OSINT, investigation, and other areas to help assist law enforcement in tracing, tracking, and unmasking child predators who try to hide online. More information can be found at www.innocentlivesfoundation.org.

Follow Chris Hadnagy: @HumanHacker
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Cheryl Biswas loves being a Threat Intel Analyst with TD Bank in Canada and assessing threat actors, vulnerabilities, and exploits. She is a Political Science graduate, ITIL certified, and took the long way to InfoSec. She actively shares her passion for security online as a speaker, volunteers at conferences, and champions diversity as a founding member of The Diana Initiative.

Twitter: @3ncr1pt3d
Websites: whitehatcheryl.wordpress.com and www.linkedin.com/in/cherylbiswas

CHAPTERS (use the chapter feature on your podcast player!)
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:02 Cheryl's Origin Story
00:03:20 Twitter and the Kardashians of InfoSec
00:04:20 Welcoming newbies, how awesome is @sn0ww
00:05:20 Seriously... everyone loves @sn0ww
00:07:45 Alice in Security Wonderland. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/my-first-con-alice-security-wonderland-cheryl-biswas/)
00:10:45 Diana Initiative Mission https://www.dianainitiative.org
00:11:50 Cheryl's First talks, shoutout to @mainframed767
00:18:05 DEFCON and Diana
00:25:40Advice to a younger Cheryl
00:27:00 Cheryl's COVID 19 observations
00:32:30 Cheryl's favorite books: Countdown to Zero Day by @KimZetter
00:34:55 Andy Greenburg's book "Sandworm”
00:37:20"The Shadow War" by Jim Sciutto
00:38:55 "Women in Tech" by Tarah Wheeler
00:39:42 Life Hacks
00:43:10 Toxic Behavior and Twitter
00:47:50 Closing thoughts

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In this extremely wide ranging interview, we discuss:

00:00 Intro
01:25 Software Defined Radios, Promiscuous Pagers, Oh My
05:38 "Responsible Encryption" isn't. 
09:16 Clipper Chip Zombie (Shoutout: @mattblaze)
13:55 Intentional Flaws (Shoutout: @RGB_Lights)
15:36 Eternal Blue? Forever Yellow.
30:04 Attribution and Distraction
36:14 Electronic Frontier Foundation  https://eff.org
41:45 Right to Repair, shoutout to @Tarah
43:07 Election Security Concerns , another shoutout to @mattblaze
49:26 Advice to a younger Jake
54:05 Resume Review Advice
56:56 Conferences, Summits, Sign Off. (Shoutouts: @hacks4pancakes, @DianaInitiative, @dakacki )

About Jake Willliams:
InfoSec professional. Breaker of poorly written software. Incident responder. Digital defender. Business bilingual. Jake Williams treats InfoSec like the Hippocratic Oath: First do no harm. By addressing realistic risks, Jake helps businesses create secure environments that actually function. He penetration tests organizations so they can find the weak spots before an attacker does. When an attacker does find a weak spot first, Jake works with the organization to remove the attacker, assess the damage, and remediate the vulnerabilities that allowed the attacker access in the first place. Jake is also a prolific conference speaker, an instructor, and an InfoSec mentor.

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Ian Anderson is a security manager focusing on the relationships between information technology and operational technology and how those relationships work to defend industrial control systems. He is also interested in risk and governance and identity management within enterprise environments. Ian is a graduate of the University of Oklahoma and maintains GSLC, GCIH, and CISSP certifications.

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Lesley Carhart  is a principal threat analyst for the Threat Operations Center at the industrial cybersecurity company Dragos, Inc. She is recognized as a subject-matter expert in cybersecurity incident response and digital forensics, regularly speaking on the topic at conferences and universities.

She has spent the last 11 years of her 20+ year IT career specializing in information security, with a heavy focus on response to nation-state adversary attacks. Prior to joining Dragos, she was the incident response team lead at Motorola Solutions, performing digital forensics and incident handling services for both enterprise and public safety customers. In 2017, Lesley was named a “Top Woman in Cybersecurity”

by CyberScoop news and received the “Women in Technology” award at Guidance Software’s Enfuse Conference.

In her free time, Lesley co-organizes résumé and interview clinics at several cybersecurity conferences, blogs and tweets prolifically about InfoSec, and is a youth martial arts instructor.

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Dan Tentler is the executive founder of Phobos Group. He has a long history of both attack and defense roles, as well as public speaking engagements and press interviews. Dan has made a name for himself and Phobos Group by approaching security from an entirely new direction, resulting in routine discoveries that have had a major impact on customers as well as the greater security landscape. 

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On this episode, we talk to Kim Crawley, who is a regular contributor to the corporate blogs for Tripwire, Cylance, Venafi, AlienVault, and Comodo. She has previously written for Sophos’ Naked Security and CSO, and has also appeared in 2600 Magazine. She loves JRPGs, black clothing, Swedish Fish candy, her weird boyfriend, and her equally weird platonic friends. 

In this episode, we discuss the following:
- Hacking "AUTOEXEC.BAT" and "Archie"
- Kim's "origin story"
- @hacks4pancakes and #PancakesCon
- @TheManyHatsClub and @TheBeerFarmers
- Diversity and Inclusion and @DianaIntitiative
- Autism and Autism Activism
- The meaning of #ActuallyAutistic
- Greta Thunberg @GretaThunberg
- A big announcement about @shehackspurple!
- Upcoming Disinfosec.tech conference 6/13

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This week on the Tribe of Hackers podcast, we talk with wirefall.   

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For Season 1, Episode 2, the Tribe of Hackers podcast is pleased to welcome Tracy Maleeff, a.k.a. the "InfosecSherpa"

Tracy Z. Maleeff is an information security analyst for the New York Times Company. She earned a master of library and information science degree from the University of Pittsburgh, as well as undergraduate degrees from Temple University (BA, magna cum laude) and Pennsylvania State University (AA). Tracy holds a SANS GIAC GSEC certification. As an "InfoSecSherpa", Tracy is an active member of the InfoSec community and frequently shares her expert knowledge through her OSINT blog and InfoSec newsletter, in addition to Twitter. Tracy has given talks at DEF CON’s Recon Village, DerbyCon, and several BSides events. In her past career as a librarian, Tracy earned the honor of being named a Fellow of the Special Libraries Association and has won the Dow Jones Innovate Award and the Wolters Kluwer Innovations in Law Librarianship Award.

You can subscribe to Tracy's Nuzzel newsletter here:  https://nuzzel.com/InfoSecSherpa

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Welcome to the Tribe of Hackers Podcast.  In this premier episode, ToH Podcast host Ray [REDACTED] interviews Marcus J Carey, the author of the Tribe of Hackers series of books.