This is a conversation, long started between two artists, caught in brave, un-silenced moments of the intimacy of their friendship. It’s therapy, solidarity and sisterhood. This is a space, no one made available. We talk through our social locations, how they predict our art making and shape the roles we play for each other. We hope to offer company to the isolated, the silenced and the unprofessional human beings out there. This is an online gallery show, curated by the artists, breaking the rules of legitimacy. Recorded in calls Mar-May 2020 it also became an unintended Covid-19 documentary.
This episode's artwork and episode notes are here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hfMe4Kyco0&feature=youtu.be
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If you'd like to see the work we’re talking about today here's: Reclamation projects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZKnFMT1foY&list=PLQ4168_tpVP2xSKuA6SnGYz3bOCfy-1wq&index=1
Notes from Hasnaa:
Notes from Natasha:
Thoughts on what we do/don’t say…
H: This friendship is one of the rare places, where I can say “I do not know Don McLean “and be taken seriously. There is no expectation of me mastering western culture nor does Natasha allow it to tell her anything about my worth. To be relieved of “lying to connect”, particularly on random accumulated knowledge of pop culture, brings peace and a level of relaxation to my body where I start talking (a lot) and surprise myself at the amount of words in me. Natasha is a generous listener and I want to thank her for that, once you will listen to this interview you will understand what I am talking about. Or Not.
N: I know little of what the teachers I speak of and the students I learned with really think, feel and know. I talk of what I see, what I experience, of what meaning it has to me. I trust that the complexity of me and everyone else is rather bigger than these observations.
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What's this about? We spend nearly ten years talking to each other. We start to make art and make space for talking about it. "We really should record our conversations!"
And the accounting? This starts with holding each other to account when we are out of our own integrity. Originating from Morocco and Britain and living in non-origin countries, we speak from our own cultures and make sure we break the silence between.
Art and accountability. Here's a taste of what's coming.
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