Since Right Now: Recent Episodes

Since Right Now

The Podcast Your Sponsor Warned You About™ The addiction recovery podcast that's been called entertaining, thoughtful, insightful, welcoming, authentic, disappointing, dismissive, ignorant, and a bunch of wasted time.

Hosted by The Indie Darlings of Recovery Podcasting™ Jeff & Matt & Chris

Rx-Strength Recovery™ We may not be the recovery podcast for you.

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Part Two of the Plant Medicine, Medical Marijuana Maintenance episode, Chris and Matt both report back on their new realities. Post Holiday Dry January reports from the crew!

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Explosive revelations rock the pod. Matt is off MJ...and Chris in on!? Holy smokes Batman! it's a riddle wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a high tech vape pen!

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Jeff and Chris - Solo! Get old old School with us.

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The Boys start to promote Dry January, give their learned opinion of recovery space, therapy and working out

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One Correction: The NA pumpkin ale sold out. The Boys discuss the AA meeting next door, use their detective skills as to who might be an alkie and Chris's trips.

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Jeff and Matt are all alone for this cast! We talk about Matt's DUI class, Mcsweeney's and Michael Schur's thoughts on DFW.

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The boys celebrate National Sobriety Day, which kind of snuck up on us again this year. They also talk about DUI's, Recovery Fest and hot takes on pop culture.

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The boys chat about such lively topics as codependency, lying and social anxiety!

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Jeff is surprised people are still huffing, the boys discuss the craziest shit that's gone down at meetings, and updated consent rules.

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Matt gets a sponsor, WellBeing Waters are Good, and Chris catches us up on some doings.

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We left you with a cliffhanger, or maybe it was a cliffbanger?!

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Patriotism is low - But recovery is HIGH

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The one where dem SRN boyz talk a lot without sayin' nothin'.

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The one where things aren't always as they seem.

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The one where the guys argue about the safety and/or efficacy of CBD for addicts and normies alike.

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The one where the guys backtrack (kinda) on selling out (to themselves.)

fuckserenity #agitatenow #bethechange

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The one where the guys finally sell out. To themselves.

Since Right Now Season 6: Rearranging Recovery

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The Boys return after another brief hiatus and nothing has changed and everything has changed.

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Not the recovery podcast you need, but the recovery podcast you deserve.

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Is this the one where we jumped the shark?

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In memory of Aaron Lee Perry, the Wasted Poet, and Sobr Soldier.

His Spoken Joint videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSis1Kp2YaMFhOYsiUbLXYjPMjzYSM8ZA

His Spoken Joint podcast: https://soundcloud.com/the-spoken-joint

His art: https://artofthewasteland.wordpress.com/author/sobrsoldier/

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Don't make us pull this podcast over and come back there!

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Your favorite hour of non-stop banal recovery platitudes!

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Keep your stupid recovery opinions to yourself, share your sobriety tips freely, and don't go to Chris's barbershop.

We talk a lot about NA beer on this one, and anger, and resentment, and who gets to frame the language of sobriety and recovery.

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The Official Podcast of Recovery™ is humans. Just like you. So, give us a f*dging break.

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What's to be said about addiction recovery that hasn't been said 209-times before?

Find out here!

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Despite going on at length about the global pandemic, the PINO in the White House and the state of race relations and policing in the US, we're still a fvcking recovery podcast.

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Where is your pod now?!

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Share your knowledge.

Mentioned: We Need More Recovery Custodians and Fewer Recovery Rock Stars https://recoveryreview.blog/2020/05/21/we-need-more-recovery-custodians-and-fewer-recovery-rock-stars-bill-stauffer-and-bill-white/

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Wired expressions of recovery: tattoos and memoirs

Tired recovery grifts: gurus, coaches, alt methodologies

Inspired depictions of those suffering from SUDs: Kendall Roy in Succession (HBO) and Patrick Melrose in Patrick Melrose (SHO)

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Remember that one episode of Since Right Now when Matt's mom was the special guest star?

Well, now you will.

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In which Camus and Nietzsche make appearances.

"Good intentions may do as much harm as malevolence if they lack understanding."

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Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

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Jeff & Matt & Chris find some measure of contentment in this, our fourth, week of socially distanced podcasting.

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"And then, poof, you were gone."

Well, we're back now.

The third episode of our fifth season (after a year-and-a-week-long hiatus.)

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The second episode of our 2020 Quarantine Comeback Tour.

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After a year-long hiatus, the boys return to socially isolate with you.

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"Whatever it was, 'The Answer to Everything' wasn't memorable."

We talk ayahuasca, altered states, anger, our upcoming 200th episode, and the "Best Virtual Wednesday Night Meeting"—our chat room.

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"We should have named this podcast 'Trigger Warning.'"

Get turnt fam with this lit episode where the Recovery Squad talks NA beer, therapy, rehab, and MORE!

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"If you buy a car, make sure you can sleep in it."

The Indie Darlings of Addiction Recovery Podcasting™ are back after a two-week hiatus.

Jeff & Matt 12 Step a dude right in the face.

Are we who suffer from substance use disorders needy little bitches?

Watch Dig! the indie doc about the Dandy Warhols and the Brian Jones Town Massacre?

@DJFMdotcom is a great guy and musician.

MRPGA!

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"There's a little leg hair on that acid."

Robbed at gunpoint, an unexpected diagnosis, being fired from a long-time job….life is what happens while you're busy being sober.

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"The way you make them alcoholic is…you add alcohol."

In which Chris rants about Coca-Cola's new non-alcoholic adult beverage product line, Bar None, and it's lack of strength in it's convictions.

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What to Drink When You’re Not Drinking: Coca-Cola Testing Cocktail-Inspired Line of Nonalcoholic Beverages in Atlanta / http://bit.ly/SinceRightNow193

Bangin' Themes: @djfmdotcom

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"It is a fire hose of insanity."

Anger! Anxiety! Social Media! Therapy! Resentment! Politics! Matt's back and we're all over the fucking place. You can't stop us, you can only hope to contain us.

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"Crooner Rat": Blek le Rat

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"Grandma's drinking."

Jeff & Chris take off the gloves and come out swinging in the one-nine.

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"Let's eat at the Chinese place. No, I didn't relapse."

The boys end the year with whatever the opposite of a bang is.

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"I think butt chugging was invented after I quit drinking…which I'm thankful for."

Some say "substance use disorder," some say "addiction." Let's call the whole thing off?

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Pop's Blue Moon NA Saturdays (STL) / https://www.facebook.com/pg/popsbluemoon/events/

Sans Bar (ATX)/ http://thesansbar.com/

“so, THIS happened yesterday!” / http://bit.ly/sheen1yr

Keith Richards has revealed that he has cut back drastically on his drinking / http://bit.ly/didKeithquit

Things I Learned from Butt Chugging / VICE / http://bit.ly/whatwhatintheb

& MORE!

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"I'm pissed off that you guys aren't looking for alcoholics!"

Our name is Since Right Now, Pod of Pods.

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Also Available on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, RadioPublic, TuneIn, Google Play Podcasts, Mixlr and more…

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“So we could still feel like we were living on the edge we had a designated driver who was drinking all night long.”

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Pop's Blue Moon (STL) NA Saturdays /https://www.facebook.com/events/1970088449966091/

Sans Bar (ATX) / http://thesansbar.com/

WellBeing Brewing Co. / https://wellbeingbrewing.com/

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"Give me something big and ostentatious because I want to make a scene!"

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Patrick Holbert / Punch Line Drunk: A Sober Comedian Discusses Addiction / https://youtu.be/UuReV1-soAU

John Mabry's High Sobriety Podcast / http://highsobriety.libsyn.com/

Neil Lawrence's album Reconnecting All Lines and Wires / https://neillawrence.bandcamp.com/releases

Lorum Ipsum Newsletter / The Dry Issue / https://loremipsum.wtf/issue/the-dry-issue/

Pop's Blue Moon NA Saturdays / https://www.facebook.com/pg/popsbluemoon/events/

Drinking: A Love Story / Caroline Knapp / https://www.amazon.com/Drinking-Love-Story-Caroline-Knapp/dp/0385315546

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"You know what would have been great? If you had turned into a werewolf."

The boys are back. Again.

But don't call it a comeback, we've been doing it for years.

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If you're in STL on an upcoming Saturday night, look for us (Jeff's sure to be there) @ Pop's Blue Moon's NA Saturday / https://www.facebook.com/pg/popsbluemoon/events/

Themes / @djfmdotcom "The Boys Are Back in Town (8-bit)" / 8-Bit Renditions / https://www.youtube.com/user/8BitRenditions

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"A garbage bag of booze draggin' around behind me."

Your favorite recover band playing all the hits.

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Cannabis is legal in Cannada / https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/17/world/canada/marijuana-pot-cannabis-legalization.html

Harm reduction / https://harmreduction.org/about-us/principles-of-harm-reduction/

CBD oil / https://vitals.lifehacker.com/what-you-should-know-about-cbd-oil-1825430458

Teenager Creates New Alcohol Free ‘gin’ / https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2018/10/teenager-creates-new-alcohol-free-gin/

Science of addiction holds promise for fight / https://www.orlandosentinel.com/health/addiction-recovery/os-addiction-recovery-science-of-addiction-orlando-20160422-story.html

Non-alcoholic spirits / https://beyondalcohol.co.uk/best-non-alcohol-spirits/

"Snortin' Whiskey, Drinkin' Cocaine" / Pat Travers / https://youtu.be/YcaDWdHmAT0

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How many special people change? How many lives are living strange? Where were you while we were casting pod?

Jeff tries to convince Matt and Chris to go see A Star Is Born.

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Mentioned: All our new LIVE! listeners.

We bestow the title of "Mayor of Chat Town" on Ron (https://twitter.com/_RonnieEarl)

The chat room (http://mixlr.com/sincerightnow/) had a lot of thoughts on other movies featuring alcoholism.

Sean Paul Mahoney's (https://twitter.com/seanpaulmahoney) astute observation that in all 4 iterations of A*IB the "star" never thinks to attend and Al-Anon meeting. (https://al-anon.org/)

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"Then we got to the funny part where he took all the bottles of wine and locked them up in a cabinet in the basement."

Listener Lynne calls in and we all soldier through another installment of Technical Difficulties.

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Jeff Stevens' WellBeing Brewing Is Brewing Craft Beer Without the ABV / https://www.riverfronttimes.com/foodblog/2018/09/18/jeff-stevens-wellbeing-brewing-is-brewing-craft-beer-without-the-abv

The ridiculous Sauce Magazine article on LOW-ABV drinking / https://issuu.com/saucemag/docs/guidetodrinking2018/30

SMART Recovery / https://www.smartrecovery.org/

LegitScript certification for providers of drug and alcohol addiction treatment / https://www.legitscript.com/service/certification/addiction-treatment/

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"I don't think I can order a Shirley Temple for you."

Jeff, Matt, & Chris perform a vulgar display of recovery for your amusement.

In this ep.: Ridiculous excuses for mocktails / Feast Magazine, Oct 2018, pg. 26 / https://bit.ly/2OlTFjS

Stryyk non-alcoholic spirits / https://www.stryyk.com/

Recovery Remixes / http://sincerightnow.com/recovremix/

Science Says Toxic Masculinity — More Than Alcohol — Leads To Sexual Assault / 538 / https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/science-says-toxic-masculinity-more-than-alcohol-leads-to-sexual-assault/

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Helicopter Landing: Mings via freesound.org under a Creative Commons 3.0 license / https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

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"I dunno shrink. You tell me."

Chris & Matt talk about fighting with —and having make-up therapy with— their therapists. __________

• People Around the World Experienced Record Levels of Stress and Pain in 2017, Study Says / TIME / http://time.com/5393646/2017-gallup-global-emotions/ • Books by John Lipscomb @ Amazon / https://amzn.to/2xAIc5k

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"I had a pirate's booty treasure chest full of chips."

Matt, Jeff, & Chris doing what they do.

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Mentioned:

The Recovery Science Research Collaborative's Consensus Definition of Recovery / https://bit.ly/2wN6AAh

Heath Ledger / http://nymag.com/news/features/44217/

Dr. Vivek Murthy, 19th Surgeon General of the U.S. / https://www.vivekmurthy.com/

Michael Boticelli, Fmr. Director of National Drug Control Policy / https://twitter.com/mbotticellibmc

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The Recovery Pod OGs:

The Bubble Hour, Ep. 1, 2013 / http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bubblehour/2012/11/20/the-bubble-hour

Rebellion Dogs Radio / https://rebelliondogspublishing.com/rebellious-radio

AfterParty Pod w/ Anna David doesn't seem to be archived anywhere.

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"It's just 'cause I'm a dick, man." — Long time listener, first time caller Moti keeps it real. / https://twitter.com/rebmoti

Mentioned: Against the Stream Confirms Sexual Misconduct by Noah Levine / https://www.lionsroar.com/against-the-stream-confirms-sexual-misconduct-by-noah-levine-centers-to-shut-down/

Refuge Recovery / https://refugerecovery.org/

Ram Dass / https://www.ramdass.org/

WellBeing Brewing Co. / https://wellbeingbrewing.com/

DJ FM / @djfmdotcom

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“I’m just gonna do this to show all these bastards.”

The boys talk about the days right around their sobriety dates.

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"That really chokes my cord."

The boys are angry!

Mentioned: DJ FM http://djfm.com/ Legit Script https://www.legitscript.com/ Mary Killian's High Wire Girl Pod https://soundcloud.com/high-wire-girl-pod Last Week Tonight w/ John Oliver https://youtu.be/hWQiXv0sn9Y

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"There is no drummer."

Jeff's back!

Q's raised—or inferred—and likely not A'ed: Are we ignorant of that which we speak? Are we dismissive of others' recovery experiences? Is The Fix owned by Big Rehab? What Is (a) LifeRing? Do we look different than you expected? and MORE!

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"We've got our horses in a row."

While Jeff's wagon train is still headin' back from out West, Matt and Chris sit around the campfire telling stilted, disjointed tales that only by chance have anything to do with anything.

Mentioned: Demi, Artie, Harris, Pete & "Crashing", therapy and our therapists.

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"Right now they're talking about sarsaparilla."

Matt & Chris fly a "missing man" formation and revel in the fact that—despite the current state of geopolitical affairs—neither are depressed. Chris retells "the bitters story" and there's definitely a rant about N.A. beer and its demonization by some elements of the recovery community when it can serve as harm reduction for some.

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"Where you goin'? I'll buy your drinks."

The Boys are back with the first episode of Season 5 and it wouldn't be an SRN ep without technical difficulties. In this case, you miss a bit of caller Julie recounting how she and Chris met via phone.

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Codependent No More / Melody Beattie / http://melodybeattie.com/books/codependent-no-stop-controlling-others-start-caring/

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"See you later! We're going to get jobs."

Jeff, Matt, and Chris talk about sobriety and recovery.

Discussed: Rejected by AA / The New Republic https://newrepublic.com/article/149398/rejected-aa

Natural Recovery: Recovery From Addiction Without Treatment / MentalHelp.net https://www.mentalhelp.net/articles/natural-recovery-recovery-from-addiction-without-treatment/

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"Caramel urine is much closer."

Listener Ronnie R. calls in and we talk DXM (look it up).

Liv Pennelle wrote a piece on different recovery pathways for the Fix: https://www.thefix.com/more-one-way-recover-guide-pathways

We talk about Anthony and Kate, depression, substance abuse, and suicide: https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/preventable-tragedies

Lazy N.A. beer rankings: http://milwaukeerecord.com/food-drink/milwaukee-records-somewhat-comprehensive-non-alcoholic-beer-rankings/

Meditate! https://www.meditationstudioapp.com/

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"Gee, Wally, I think this drinking's got me licked."

Jeff and Chris talk religion, AA literature, therapy, listener feedback, David Cassidy, dry counties, finally figuring out how we're going to successfully take callers, and more!

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"Stop talking to me Duran Duran!"

The boys chat about the coming revolution in psychedelic psycho-pharmacology to treat mental health issues including depression and addiction. Also discussed: bad trips.

My Adventures with the Trip Doctors / NYT https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/15/magazine/health-issue-my-adventures-with-hallucinogenic-drugs-medicine.html

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"I'll just drink at birthdays, funerals, and weddings." — Carl

Meetings, anxiety, non-alcoholic beer, life. And a listener, Carl, calls in!

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"How did you know my name was Bro?"

Absence makes the heart grow fonder'' yet, 'out of sight, out of mind'? Stop fucking with us aphorisms!

Also, does anybody read the notes?

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NOTE: This episode is almost unlistenable due to echo.*

If you can get past the fkciung annoying! echo you'll find Jeff and Chris pondering the very nature of existence.

NOT! It's just more half-assed musing on sobriety, recovery, and mental health.

*We tried to use the podcast-by-phone app Anchor while in the same room and it clearly did not work.

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“This is starting to sound like a ‘woe is me’ situation.”

In which Chris rambles on for half an hour about the woes of having to produce and engineer a podcast.

Also, with some sobriety, recovery, mental health stuff.

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"Okay, if Nikki Sixx calls in I won't hang up on him."

The boys wait by a phone that never rings.

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Does Sobriety Kill Great Writing? https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/magazine/does-recovery-kill-great-writing.html

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Themes by the multi-talented @djfmdotcom

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"We got a Jew, a Muslim and a Christian here." "Next episode we walk into a bar."

The 3 Wise Guys, attempt to A some Qs from listener Trish in NYC. Qs like (and I paraphrase): What's up with addiction and mental illness? What's up with finding a sponsor and how should it work? What's up with the Traditions? What's up with speakers droning on at meetings? AND MORE! __________

Themes (as always) by the incredibly talented and gracious @djfmdotcom

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"At 50, I feel the most numb I've ever felt."

Join Jeff, Matt, and Chris for another rollicking good time discussing, sobriety, recovery, and…feelings.

U2, 'Bad,' a song about (heroin) addiction: https://youtu.be/l2puvI4IfG0

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"Check out my obsidian collection."

Jeff, Matt, and Chris go through more listener mail and dole out nuggets of folksy wisdom.

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Support by WellBeingBrewing.com

Themes, as always, by @djfmdotcom

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"Of course (I'm drinking) mom! I'm drunk right now."

The guys open up the mailbag, taste Wellbeing Brewing's new N.A. Dark Amber brew, and get all hot about the Trump administration and its response—or lack thereof—to the opioid crisis.

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WellbeingBrewing.com

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"We're here for fun, not for facts."

Chris goes to the doctor. Then goes again.

Article mentioned:

It Looked Like a Familiar Case of Depression, but Could It Be Something Else? https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/18/magazine/it-looked-like-a-familiar-case-of-depression-but-could-it-be-something-else.html

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Sponsored by https://WellbeingBrewing.com/

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"Ok, so, are you feeling better?"

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"Welcome to fucking parenthood."

Kids. Amirite?

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"How's the mouthfeel on that?"

Dudes talking about depression.

And… http://wellbeingbrewing.com

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"They'd have parties and people would come over and act weird."

Jeff, Matt, and Chris may or may not have just wrapped Since Right Now for 2017.

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”We'll give him a 12th Step he'll never forget!"

Jeff, Matt, and Chris discuss the process of 12th Stepping someone (and possibly forming their own rogue, extreme 12th Step group,) we discuss the implications of partaking in communion wine when sober, and more…

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"You should have just hired a bartender to hang around with you."

In which we sample—live, on air—the first non-alcoholic brew produced by our own Jeff's new N.A. Wellbeing Brewery microbrewery.

https://WellbeingBrewing.com/

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"I got in a ton of fights. I never struck someone…but I got beat up a number of times."

The boys consider every day practical benefits of sobriety and recovery.

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"Alright! I'll believe in you God! Just fix the plumbing!"

Whether you're new to the pod or a longtime listener, we thought it might be a good idea to reintroduce ourselves to give you, the listener, some context for our opinions and perspectives on recovery.

Use code SinceRightNow by 10.31.17 to receive 20% off your order @ Pockitudes.com

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"I said, 'God, I'm not going to make any promises because every promise I've made, I've broken.'"

Legendary tattoo artist Freddy Negrete is best known for his pioneering black-and-gray tattooing style, honed while he was serving time in the California Youth Authority in the 1970s. Profiled in numerous TV programs and magazine articles Freddy, a gifted and natural-born artist, was transported from the confines of prison cells onto the sets of major Hollywood films such as Batman, Blade, Con Air, Austin Powers and Falling Down. But then, after years of success in the motion picture industry, Freddy found himself back inside again: in Folsom maximum security prison, suffering heroin withdrawal and tattooing for packets of soup. His autobiography, Smile Now, Cry Later—co-written with Steve Jones—depicts his addiction and recovery story and was released last year.

Smile Now, Cry Later: (Amazon)https://www.amazon.com/Smile-Now-Cry-Later-Tattoos-My-ebook/dp/B0180SLM00

Freddy on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freddy_negrete/

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"I had to get it out…because I had been so silenced."

Nikki DuBose a former model turned author, speaker, and mental health advocate, recently released her memoir, Washed Away: From Darkness to Light. In Washed Away, Nikki recounts her experiences navigating the dark side of the modeling industry, while battling abuse, addiction, and various mental health issues (sexual victimization, eating disorders, alcoholism, drugs, depression, suicide attempts, body dysmorphic disorder, PTSD, psychosis).

To order Washed Away: https://www.amazon.com/Washed-Away-Darkness-Nikki-Dubose/dp/1478777451

Peaceful Hearts Foundation: http://www.peacefulheartsfoundation.org/

Lauren's Kids: https://laurenskids.org/

For more about Nikki: http://NikkiDuBose.com

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“I really like not drinking now."

In and effort to have a "better than the worst" episode, the boys disucss medically assisted treatment, how to help a friend or family member we suspect of having a substance misuse issue, and how to to talk to our kids about addiction and their potential predisposisiton to it.

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“If you were good at getting away with shit you wouldn't be (in prison.)"

Over seven days in 2012, Kasey lost his band, his home, and most of the friends he had. He was diagnosed as bipolar and outed as an addict-in-sober-clothing and a thief.

For more on Kasey: KaseyAndersonMusic.com

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"On a scale of 7 to 10, how depressed are you?"

Matt and Chris talk a lot about the podcast itself, gratitude, and the somewhat surprising lack of collective depression in the room.

Use code SINCERIGHTNOW by 10.31.17 to receive 20% off your order @ https://www.pockitudes.com/

http://theweek.com/articles/712078/skeptically-tried-practicing-gratitude-completely-changed-life

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"How sorry are you that you didn't get on this ride?!"

Amy Dresner is a former professional stand-up comic, having appeared at The Comedy Store, The Laugh Factory, and The Improv. Since 2012, she has been a contributing editor for the online addiction and recovery magazine TheFix.com. She’s also freelanced for the Good Men Project, The Frisky, Refinery 20, and has been a regular contributor to Addiction.com and PsychologyToday.com, where she has her own addiction blog.

http://amydresner.com/

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NOTE: The first 5 minutes of Erin on mic are VERY hard to hear her. Then it gets better. My fault. —Chris

“This is my life and it's a fight for it.”

Erin Shaw Street is a writer, editor, and content strategist based in Birmingham, Alabama. Her nearly 20-year career has taken her to just about every corner of the media, where she’s covered health and wellness, and travel and culture. Erin’s sobriety date is March 12, 2016.

Her passion is to draw from her experience in media and as a woman in recovery to challenge the accepted cultural and media narrative around alcohol. She’s also passionate about recovery in the South, and highlighting how big life in sobriety can actually be, whether it be through travel, creativity, or every day life. Erin is a mom, Florida native, collector of vintage caftans and at heart, a reporter who tells stories of life unedited.

You can find her writing at www.erinshawstreet.com and @erinshawstreet.

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"We'd be fighting right now in a gutter."

We finally turn the mics on about 2 minutes in and we talk OTC solutions for addiction and little bit of gratitude.

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"If you're looking for context to solve all your problems, you'll never solve all your problems. You are the problem."

The guys talk about anger and its permutations.

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“Could I kill myself without it hurting? Or go to Europe and change my identity?”

Michael King is the National Director of Outreach & Engagement for Facing Addiction, a national non-profit organization whose primary mission is to unify the voices of the 45 million Americans directly impacted by addiction. In his position, Michael works with and to expand Facing Addiction's coalition of partnering organizations, the Facing Addiction Action Network.

In the past, Michael worked for over a decade in the political arena as a political organizer, campaign manager and communications professional. He is the proud father of two young children, and a person in long term recovery.

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Jeff's back, Matt's out, plant medicine is discussed and stick around to the end for a very special surprise guest.

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"Plant-based medicine is the new paradigm in treating addiction and depression."

Scott began his career in the healing field, utilizing his inherent intuitive gifts as a life coach and sober companion while working at a luxury residential treatment facility in Malibu, California. From there he went on to design, and co-create a concierge detoxification program in Santa Monica, California. Later he became the director of a sub-acute residential detoxification facility, as well as an owner/operator of a sober living facility in Malibu, California. In 2008, he founded The Power of Choice™, a concierge substance abuse treatment program. In 2015, out of Scott's recognition that a great deal of today's population wants and needs an avenue to heal, and to learn how to reconnect with the Self, The Power of Choice™ evolved into what is the world's premier concierge holistic retreat provider.

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"I was so horribly offended—like she had accused me of pedophilia. Me?! I don't need one of those meetings!"

Rea Bochner is a writer, musician, and mother. She wrote her first haiku in third grade and has been writing ever since. “The Cape House” is her debut memoir.

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Nelsan Ellis, the shaming obituary for a great-grandmother, the immediate intimacy of Friends (and acquaintances) of Bill, and much, much MORE!

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Hey, look! It's the first episode of Season 4! With Refuge Recovery founder, Noah Levine! Exclamation point!

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About an hour after the show ended I got an email from Alice apologizing for getting her days mixed up. D'oh! With HP as my witness, she will be on the show. Someday.

In her absence we talked about a wide range of issues not the least of which was the passing of Carrie Fisher.

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The boys went to a Refuge Recovery meeting and found it refreshingly light on the dogma and heavy on the karma.

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Contentment. A great feeling? Or, the best feeling? Also, alcohol causes cancer.

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Matt & Chris cover a wide range of topics. Did Matt ever score on Silk Road? Can shrooms cure alcoholism? Are we cynical assholes? Find out the answers and more in this episode.

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Scott Steven of TheAlcohologist.com joins us to discuss the health risks of alcohol and it's impact on healthcare and society.

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Are non-alcoholic beverages only for non-alcoholics? Burning question? Or burning desire?

Just the boys again, talking the Trump administration's dismantling of all the addiction and recovery progress made by the previous administration, N.A. beer, Refuge Recovery, and more.

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"I need to remember how bad it was and how bad it could have been.”—Chris as his 20th year of sobriety nears.

Jeff & Chris discuss long-term sobriety, meeting others of our kind in the wild and how others' stories can help remind us of what we've gained in sobriety.

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"Fuck, I'm Ben Affleck."—Chris on our sobro casting in our Since Right Now biopic.

Chris is back from Europe and the gang's back together! Topics: N.A. beer, Brad Pitt, anonymity, and more!

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“Please listen responsibly."

Some old favorites are back again: depression, anxiety, resentments, to go to meetings or not, what we drank—or didn't, getting out of our own heads and more!

Last episode before a 3 week! hiatus. Yikes.

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“You have to put a wall around Purdue Pharma."—Jeff on preventative wall placement.

The boys discuss Buddhism and psyche themselves up to go to a Refuge Recovery meeting, they express skepticism that "He" will do anything of note to support prevention and recovery efforts (unless you count wasting a tremendous amount of money on building a wall,) they discuss whether or not Chris has relapsed (!,) smoking crack the wrong way, and more!

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"My dad asked me if you could go anywhere and do anything, what would you do? And I said, I'd go back to bed."—Wilson on depression in early recovery.

Lift Heavy, Run Long: https://www.liftheavyrunlong.com/

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"I couldn't just run two miles, I had to run a marathon." —Jennifer on her 'all or nothing' nature

Jennifer O of The First 500 on The Recovery Revolution joins us in studio.

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"The personal is political."

Jeff, Matt, & Chris break one of the taboo topics on the show and discuss recovery in context of the current political atmosphere.

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Ryan Hampton & Garrett Hade of http://AddictionXAmerica.com

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"I just want to be well in recovery."

Liv Pennelle of http://LivsRecoveryKitchen.com

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Depression! Anxiety! Panic Attacks! It's all here folks.

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"(I was) having these moments where things were going really well and then things weren't going well and I didn't know why they were not going well.…'cause I thought I was trying." — Andy on the mysteries of the unsober

Stand-up comedian and writer, Andy Haynes! http://ImAndyHaynes.com

(Yes, the Outro accidentally recorded—wihout my knowing—over the beginning of the show. FML?)

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“You can’t fight your way out.”

Chris on the fight-or-flight response to situations that trigger his social anxiety

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“It keeps a lot of people out.”—Jeff on the dogmatic requirement of a higher power in AA

Jeff, Matt & Chris try to figure out what the difference is between religion and spirituality; if they're either; if they want either and they laugh at Jesus…the jacked, Korean Jesus that is.

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“I literally woke up on morning and just wanted to stop everything and make them all.”—Sondra on the insistence of creative inspiration.

Tammi Salas of http://TammiSalas.com and Sondra Primeaux of http://TheUnruffled.com talk sobriety, recovery, and creativity.

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”I'm a woman, I'm good with that.”—Claire ”Not everything has to be a perfect experience.”—Kristi

Claire Rudy Foster & Kristi Coulter back again.

Claire: http://honestopinionreviews.com/ Kristi: http://www.kristicoulter.com/

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Jennifer is author of four nonfiction books about body, mind, and human well-being, including the just-published Sex in Recovery: A Meeting between the Covers, as well as The Recovering Body: Physical and Spiritual Fitness for Living Clean and Sober.

She speaks and writes widely, and she teaches writing at the University of Pittsburgh. Her long-running site about addiction and recovery, Guinevere Gets Sober, was one of the first blogs of its kind and is dedicated to giving the public reliable information without advertising or fees. Her commitment to removing the stigma from addiction and recovery earned her a fellowship at the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA).

More from Jennifer @ http://guineveregetssober.com/

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”I have not been relieved of the desire…I've been relieved of the obsession.”

Find out more about Tess and her upcoming Web series, Cleaner Daze @ http://CleanerDaze.com and on the show's Facebook page, @CleanerDazeSeries

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“I grew up in an alcoholic home so I knew what alcoholism was but I didn't ever talk about it. So I lived in denial for 23 years."

Advocate Annie McCullough is a maven of reinvention with a serious social conscience. Drawing on her previous roles at Dell, Orchard Recovery Centre and Edgewood Health Network, Annie combines her background in project and event management with her passion for recovery. She was instrumental in developing Recovery Day in Canada, which continues its reach - growing from 2 cities in 2012 to 30 cities in 2016. As co-founder of Faces and Voices of Recovery (FAVOR) Canada, Annie has worked tirelessly to empower the recovery community at a grass roots level. She also serves on the National Recovery Advisory Committee, promoting awareness of recovery from addiction, based on evidence from research and experience in the recovery movement. As a person with lived experience, she inspires others with her energy and enthusiasm, embodying hope for those who struggle with addiction.

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“When you're not partying anymore, all the problems that the drugs were masking, that the alcohol was masking, they just fly to the surface.“

It's been a long time—too long—but past guest and the man behind our amazing Intro an Outro themes, DJFM himself, joins us once again!

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“I don't even know what’s wrong. Career? Love? Money? Who the fuck knows?…I want to do something dangerous.” —Real talk from Jeff

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It was the best of episodes; it was the worst of episodes. _________ We had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way—in short, this podcast was so far like other podcasts, that some of its noisiest critics insisted on its being received, in the superlative degree of comparison only.

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“It was the loneliest, saddest little episode." —Matt on the last time we recorded without Jeff

Chris and Matt concur that neither is depressed or particularly anxious. That we know of!

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“I could just drive over (to the liquor store) and nobody would know.” —Kera on alcohols long reach

Kera Yonker is a Californian and quasi-New Yorker who lives in North Carolina where she is writing a book.

Kera has been sober for almost three years.

Read Kera's piece, The Soberest Drunk Girl at the Party @ TheRecoveryRevolution.Online/insights and No One to Rescue Me from My Drinking in the NYT.

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After two false starts Jeff, Matt and Chris spit hot fire over a sick beat. Well, we ramble semi-coherently for about an hour on a variety of topics—not the least of which being Chris’ meds.

And we talk about the Strawberry-Gooden Beef (delicious, btw) and when/how/if to address another's destructive addiction in public.

ALSO! Listener calls!

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Yo! Chris is taking his show and going on vacation. For a week. Back next Wed with an all new show LIVE on Mixlr.com/sincerightnow @ 8p Central.

Call 507-556-7271 to leave us a VM and your call could make in into the show.

OR! Chat with us live via Mixlr during the show.

OR! Wait for us to ask for callers and you can Skype (voice) live with us on air.

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"I'm not 21, so I can't (drink.)" —Tammi on following the rules ________________

Tammi hasn’t had a drink since February 3, 2015. She is a former wine bar owner, lifelong seeker and recovering perfectionist. She makes art every day and credits this practice as the path to her spiritual overhaul. She documents her creative forays and monthly sobriety milestones at TammiSalas.com and now on TheRecoveryRevolution.Online ________________

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“To walk around in an altered state and have that other eye…it made me feel safe and it made me feel very powerful. And I dove right-the-fuck in.”

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We’re absolutely thrilled to finally be hosting the phenomenally gifted writer CRF on SRN.

Claire's critically recognized short fiction appears in various respected journals, including McSweeney's, Vestal Review, and SmokeLong Quarterly. She has been honored by several small presses, including a nomination for the Pushcart Prize. She holds an MFA in Creative Writing.

She is afraid of sharks, zombies, and other imaginary monsters. She lives in Portland, Oregon.

Claire is a regular contributor to http://TheRecoveryRevolution.Online/fiction-toc

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“I woke up in the hospital…my stomach was…bleeding. My heart had shut off. But a few days later I drank again.” —Charlotte on the tenacity of denial in addiction.

On day one of her sobriety—originally a planned 90-day detox challenge—Charlotte had the foresight to document the clarity and anxiety of that momentous occasion. Now, just over 2 years later, she has a dedicated following of what have become infectiously exuberant recovery updates.

Charlotte is a professional makeup artist and beauty writer in Derry, Ireland whose experience as a plus-size Wilhelmina Model in NYC led her to question, “What is beauty?” The self-acceptance and self-love that she’s found in the answer has inspired her to work to inspire other women to feel beautiful and confident as a whole person not only for what‘s on the outside.

Charlotte @ YouTube: youtube.com/user/charlotterosecoyle Instagram: @charlotterosecoyle

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“There were mornings waking up (with) no clue what happened last night but it was never something at that point where I would think I should stop…or slow down.”

Lisa Smith is a writer and a lawyer. Clean and sober for more than 10 years, she is passionate about breaking the stigma of drug and alcohol addiction, particularly for professional women. Girl Walks Out of a Bar is her story.

http://www.lisasmithauthor.com/

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"I was high when we talked if I recall correctly." —A live caller to the BIGGER, BADDER, BOLDER, LIVER Since Right Now.

Tune in to find out who…

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"It as always more about the destination than the route."—Matt on "getting lost."

Part 1 of our two-part 2 Year Anniversary LIVEstravaganza.

Beginning with this episode the show will be broadcast LIVE! on Wednesday nights at 8:00pm Central. You can catch LIVE! episodes via http://SinceRightNow.com/on-air or http://mixlr.com/sincerightnow . Using Mixlr’s built-in chat you can interact with us in real-time and we’ll also be opening up the “phone lines.”

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"I need help. I need a miracle." —Carly on coming to believe that a power greater than herself could restore her to sanity.

As an avid traveler, yogi & confessed self-help junkie, Carly writes about her adventures in life & sobriety on http://MiraclesAreBrewing.com/ where she offers inspirational concepts for enlightenment, spirituality & embracing epicness.

She’s been sober from cocaine and alcohol since August 17, 2008 and has found her passion working as an ambassador for sobriety by sharing her experiences of living life above the influence in her writing and speaking. She currently offers one-on-one sobriety coaching and is working on publishing an ebook as well as a self-help book along with creating her first sober retreat in 2017. When she’s not writing or geeking out on the Internet, you can find her sipping tea, hiking mountains, catching a flight, reading a book or dancing to deep house music, which often may be a dance party of one in her living room.

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“I decided to start taking random pills from the pharmacy where I worked.”—Erin on adapting to her circumstances.

Erin is a recovering addict, personal trainer, freelance writer, and blogger living in Chicago.

Her blog, http://erinsinsidejob.com/, is a journey through her continued recovery and a reminder to others that true wellness comes from within. Active in the mental health and fitness communities, Erin has multiple years of experience in sharing her story with the public, growing her professional career in the face of adversity, and marketing her message to a wide reader base. She has also been featured in such publications as The Huffington Post, Refinery 29, and several others.

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“I remember waking up the next morning, there was blue paint all over my nurse’s costume, there were chicken nuggets on the terrace…” —Helaina on the makings of a memorable rock bottom.

Helaina Hovitz was 12-years-old and in middle school three blocks from the World Trade Center on September 11th, 2001. Her memoir encapsulates the journey of a girl growing up with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder after living through the events of 9/11 firsthand, chronicling its effects on a young girl at the outset of adolescence and following her as she spirals into addiction and rebellion, through loss, chaos, and confusion.

It would take Helaina more than a decade to overcome the PTSD—and subsequent alcohol addiction—that went misdiagnosed and mistreated for so many years.

Visit http://HelainaHovitz.com/ for more.

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"…and then I realize I sound like a tremendous dick.“—Chris, in the rooms.

In which Chris goes to listen to Jeff speak, doesn't know what the fuck is going on and ends up speaking himself.

Jeff's talk was terrific. And it was his birthday.

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"Everyone knew what they were going to be; I had no idea. Then as soon as I drank I was like THIS is what I'm going to be."—Mishka on career choices.

A misfit kid at the best of times, Mishka had his world shattered when, in a twenty-four-hour span in 1992, he survived a mass shooting on his school’s campus, then learned that his parents were getting divorced. His father, a prominent rocket scientist, abandoned the family and their home was lost to foreclosure. Shubaly swore to avenge the wrongs against his mother, but instead plunged into a magnificently toxic love affair with alcohol.

http://www.mishkashubaly.com/

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“I just had a doctor's appointment and he asked (about my family history.) I said as long as mental health isn’t involved we’re pretty healthy.”

Garrett, himself in recovery and an ACOA, is the Director of Operations for Alta Centers.

Alta Centers is on out-patient program with a focus on creativity that works with evidence-based practices to sustain an individuals sobriety while keeping them involved in day-to-day life. We believe in a model that is contained but also gives an individual the freedom to deal with issues as they arise in their treatment experience.

www.altacenters.com

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“I was hungover for many years and I just thought I was tired.”—Kristi on the self-delusions of the active alcoholic.

Kristi is an essayist and fiction writer whose work has appeared in The Mississippi Review, Salon's Virgin Fiction anthology, AddictionUnscripted.com (formerly TheRealEdition.com), and elsewhere. She's currently at work on a collection of personal essays about living sober in a tipsy world, and on a novel about all kinds of things.

She blogs about recovery at http://offdry.wordpress.com and can also be found at http://KristiCoulter.com.

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“I didn't come crawling into an AA meeting thinking, ‘Oh, I've got to quit drinking.’”—Nancy on denials last gasp.

Inspired by writers she admired for their honesty and grit—Joyce Maynard, Augusten Burroughs, Anne Lamott and Kelly Corrigan—Nancy started writing more and more and by early 2005 had compiled a 250 page manuscript for her own memoir, Last Call: A Memoir.

On her blog, also Last Call, she blogs about recovery, alcoholism, addiction, family, love and her four-legged child, Lucy.

Nancy’s work has appeared on The Fix, The Real Edition, XO Jane and Ravishly, as well as numerous recovery and addiction websites and blogs…including TheRecoveryRevolution.Online

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“I didn't start dealing until my dealer went to jail.“—Kelly on rising to the occasion.

From Kelly: Now, after a relapse and fresh out of out-patient, this time feels different. I feel this a major game-changer for me. I feel like it’s re-birth of sorts. I feel PRESENT and enthusiastic about this new me. I like the person I am becoming and am hopeful for what ever the future brings. I was ambivalent about the 12 Steps and AA in general but I joined a women's group and I have something to share at every meeting. I am going to work the Steps and just take one day at a time. I am hopeful.

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“I hit another rock bottom about two and a half years into sobriety that was probably worse than before I got sober.”

As a recovered alcoholic and drug addict, she has personal experience of what it takes to recover from an addiction. Veronica has worked as a therapist and life coach specialising in addiction for over fifteen years; her experience includes working with young people in the criminal justice system, primary care adult treatment and private practice.

+ The Gang Takes Your Qs In the First Installment of Recovery Request Line

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“We both lost our mothers to their disease at 47.” —John on how this disease infects the family tree.

John and Adrianne are the co-authors of The Painting and The Piano, their improbable story of survival and love and the painful toll that alcohol, drugs, and a negligent court system would take on them.

Both are involved in the AA/Recovery community. Adrianne currently works at a recovery house and Johnny continues speaking, sponsoring and helping others in recovery.

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“I was really treating all the guilt, shame, regret, and fear with alcohol.”—Rosemary on self-medicating

Rosemary, sober since 1999, understands the challenges of staying sober as a single mom. She is the founder of ROC Recovery Services, which offers comprehensive care for women suffering from addictions.

http://rocrecoveryservices.com/

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"This shouldn't be this fuck*ng hard." — Matt

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"Seeing the chaos get worse and worse I knew that I had to change." —Dustin

Dustin is an advocate against the "War on Drugs" and is helping the addiction community fight against the horrible stigma associated with all forms of addiction.

"A Walk In His Shoes" is Dustin's first publication. The book details Dustin's decade-long battle with heroin and is authored by Dustin and his father. / http://www.amazon.com/Walk-In-His-Shoes-addiction/dp/1517768721

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"Don't you go changing on me alcoholism." —Matt on the affirmation of hearing other's recovery stories

The boys strap on their waders and step into a wide-ranging conversation.

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"I remember the pharmacist—or the guy in the white coat—he goes, 'Is there anything you need?'…and I said, 'No.' Then he goes, 'Is there anything you don't need?" —Matt in Mexico

Matt is the founder of AddictionUnscripted.com (prev The Real Edition), a publishing platform on all things addiction and recovery. He is also an outspoken advocate for finding new forms of treatment beyond that of 12-step based programs. Matt is also open about his occasional drinking—which some seem to have a problem with.

Matt is the creator and co-host of the just-launched @addiction-unscripted podcast.

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"When we were drinking, each day (looked) a lot like yesterday."—Simon on his and Kendra‘s drinking years together.

After years of drinking together, Simon & Kendra got sober in October 2008. They both got their start in AA, then their recovery paths diverged. Although they approach recovery from different angles, they agree that recovery saves lives. Every day.

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"I was on (an) emotional relapse and decided to take a yoga class. And that yoga class kind of unwound me and I was able to tap into some storm that was brewing inside me."—Kyczy on the power of yoga in her recovery

A leader of Y12SR (Yoga of 12 Step Recovery) classes for over five years and a devoted teacher to people in treatment centers and in jail—Kyczy created a teacher training program for others who wish to work in this field. Trauma sensitivity and the somatics of moving home into your body are some of the basics taught in S.O.A.R.(™) Success Over Addiction and Relapse

More about her work can be found at YogaRecovery.com

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"I decided to pick up, and I decided to do it by announcing it to a group of people, and they all toasted me out of the program with a very expensive bottle of wine." —Natasha on "graduating out of AA"

Natasha—in recovery herself from eating disorders and substance abuse—is a recovery coach in NYC certified through CARC, CCAR, OASAS and a Recovery Coach Trainer.

http://www.SilverBellCoaching.com

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"I had to take a water bottle filled with vodka with me just to get through the day."—Jane on getting through the day.

Jane is @yujachingu on Twitter

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"(The relationship) helped me realize just how edgy, dark and hard I wasn't."—Chris on being in over his head.

Jeff listened to @thishomepod Ep.22: The Shockers and thought we should try it.

Not sure it went as planned.

Apologies to Laura and Holly for jackin' yer steez. Poorly.

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"I'm not always 'happy, joyous and free.' I'd be bullshitting you if I said that was the case."—Mary on living in recovery.

Please, visit Mary here: http://marykillian.com here: http://highwiregirl.blogspot.com and/or here: http://www.amazon.com/Roustabout-Heart-Adventures-Recovery/dp/0996589007/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448451547&sr=8-1&keywords=the+roustabout+heart

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"I don't know how I'm gonna do it…but I can't do this anymore."—Sondra

The Unruffled / http://www.TheUnruffled.com Sondra on Twitter / @NaughtApropos Sondra on The Recovery Revolution / http://www.sincerightnow.com/search?q=Sondra%20Primeaux

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Please, visit us at TheRecoveryRevolution.Online See you next year!

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"I remember thinking in my drunken stupor—and quickly suppressing (the thought)—that I had an issue."—Chris on Since Right Now

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"Some people miss the bottom." — Aaron on SRN

The enormously talented Aaron Lee Perry of SobrSoldier.com (and recent cover feature on TheRecoveryRevolution.Online) stops by Since Right Now Pod to chat with the Recovery Renegades.

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"My recovery evolves all the time. It's important for me to give back what I have received."—Nicola on SRN

@nicola-o-hanlon has been in recovery since January 23rd 2010. She is the Editor of the new online magazine ILoveRecovery.com Café, which is part of the InTheRooms.com blogging community.

Her work has been published in several recovery magazines, including Recovery Today, In Recovery Magazine, AfterParty Magazine, Psychology Today and Reach Out Recovery to name but a few. She is an activist and passionate about social justice and human rights. Most recently she has had stories published in Hearts and Scars – 10 Human Stories of Addiction, and the Girl God series of books about Feminine Divinity.

Born and raised in Wexford, Ireland she still lives there with her two children, Christopher and Jessica. She is also a Massage Therapist, Reflexologist and Sechiem Energy Healer. Already an expert on how not to live life she is a constant seeker of new and better ways of being. Nature is her Higher Power and she believes in magic, crystals and blames the phases of the moon for her multi-personalities.

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"You were a master of self-sabotage."—Tim

Tim, a normie, has know Chris for over two decades. He has seen Chris at his worst in active addiction and he was the first person to see Chris on the other side of his self-styled rehab.

Here he sheds some light on the before, during and after.

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"Fu*k Ram Dass."—Chris on SRN

Nothing you know about anything is right and everything you know about everything is right.

This is an episode where it is highly recommended that you take what you can and leave the rest.

Read for upcoming https://soundcloud.com/youre-killing-me: The Patrick Melrose Novels by Edward St. Aubyn / http://amzn.com/1250069602

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"It doesn't matter if you're not sleeping on a park (bench)…or not driving your kids to school with vodka in your coffee mug…or whatever is your 'I haven't done this, yet.' None of that matters." — Jean on SRN

Jean Greer McCarthy is creator of the wildly-popular, recovery blog, Unpickled; a cohost of recovery podcast, The Bubble Hour; and a monthly columnist for addiction.com.

Sober since 2011, Jean lives a very active life in Alberta Canada.

NOTE Once again, Chris ignored the common wisdom to "never meet your idols and/or never podcast with your influences" and asked Jean to join us. She graciously accepted.

I would also like to note that Jean authored the beautifully powerful sentiment that I have used to guide me as I participate in the #RecoveryFriendlyWeb:

Resist the urge to be entertained and instead let yourself be moved. Something beautiful has been happening here. Maybe it’s time you knew. —Jean / Unpicked

LINKS http://unpickledblog.com http://www.thebubblehour.com

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"You start to realize just how many (social activities) are really just about getting super hamskied."—MATT

The Sober Squad™ does not boldly go where many have gone before. And it certainly doesn't go where many currently are. And if they did it would be in a highly agitated state. As a matter of fact, some of the Sober Squad™ is just going to hang out at home and maybe watch a movie.

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"I was one of those drinkers that blacked out the first time I drank. I thought I wouldn't drink again. Three days later I did."—Jo on SRN

Jo is just beginning her story in recovery and most of what she’d normally put in a bio happened during years of active addiction, but they did contribute to who she is today.

Jo has been in the fundraising world for most of her career. She’s worked for everyone from the ASPCA (have you SEEN that Sara McLachlan commercial—you can thank her) to MADD (ironic isn’t it?). Her background gives her a different perspective on addiction. Jo sees the movement as early advocates saw HIV/AIDS or international child hunger. She asks herself questions about where the movement fits in the share of donor giving already so competitive or how to break out of the stigma and mainstream recovery support much like Susan G. Komen demanded we stop mourning cancer and celebrate survival.

But for now, Jo’s just a middle-age woman in recovery who went back to school in her 40’s, finished an Addiction Counseling program and now works with young men who are battling this disease every day. She believes there’s nothing like seeing the devastation and the miracles up close.

She doesn’t blog, our show will be her first ever telling her story publically but she is 100% committed to whatever she can do go give the disease a mainstream platform and help people who want to find the place to recover outloud. Starting with 6 guys in a house in Maryland.

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The Recovery Renegades™ return to tell tales from the frontlines of the Recovery Revolution™ .

TL; DL Jeff loves everybody. Matt makes lemonade after delivering his own lemons. Chris hates the game not the players.

Intro/Outro Themes as always: @djfmdotcom

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"I had to figure out a way to be (sober) around (alcohol) constantly."—Scott (restauranteur) on SRN

Torn Together is a memoir, written by recovering alcoholic and addict husband, Scott Magnuson, and codependent wife, Shaaren Pine.

The memoir chronicles Scott’s addiction as his illness infects everyone around him, his eventual treatment, and the recovery process the whole family undertakes.

It is also the story of The Argonaut, one of revitalized H Street NE’s first restaurants, the struggle to get off the ground, rebuild after a terrible fire, and to keep going as the family is falling apart.

Together, Scott and Shaaren run two businesses, have created a non-profit—Restaurant Recovery™—, serve on two boards, and are raising their daughter, Ara.

Scott is continuing his career in the restaurant industry, and, through their non-profit, he and Shaaren are dedicated to helping others out of addiction's darkness. The mission of Restaurant Recovery is to provide comprehensive solutions—including finding and funding treatment—to address addiction and its effects on restaurant employees, their families and the restaurant industry.

They live in Washington, DC, and this is their first book.

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"It's become really important to me.…I can count on the best cup of coffee I've had all week and I'll probably get the best laugh I'll have all week…" —Matt on SRN

We intended to do a live episode on Google Hangouts with audience participation. But ended up putting down the first paver on our road to Hck. Those damn "good intentions" will fuk you every time.

Credits: Intro: The Outer Limits [Intro, edit] / 1963 / ABC Intro/Outro Themes: @djfmdotcom

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Brian's recovery journey took him through clinical depression, twenty-seven years of eating disorders, body dysmorphic disorder, alcohol and drug addiction. He went from an 18-year-old anorexia/bulimic to the brink of suicide at 45 years old to then finally turn it around, walk away from a successful legal career, restoring himself, his family relationships, and finding his true passion in life.

Brian is a an author whose Amazon best-selling book. Shattered Image: My Triumph Over Body Dysmorphic Disorder, chronicles his first-hand experiences living with, and recovering from eating disorders, drug addiction and Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD).

Brian speaks regularly about his recovery, childhood bullying, fat shaming and breaking the male eating disorder stigma.

Brian on the Web: Site: http://www.BrianCuban.com Twitter: @bcuban Cubanity Blog @ PsycheCentral: http://blogs.psychcentral.com/cubanity/ Shattered Image, Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Shattered-Image-Triumph-Dysmorphic-Disorder/dp/0988879581

Credits: Intro: Goodfellas (Liotta, Bracco) / 1990 / Warner Bros. Image: from Mobile Mirrors / 2012 / Lilibeth Cuenca

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"As it progresses it's like an animal that you have to take care of all the time…and you really can't do anything else." —SPM on SRN

Sean has been a writer, humorist and storyteller since he learned how to speak. He didn't actually start getting paid for these things,however, until he got sober in 2009. Since then Mahoney's two original comedies, Casual Encounters/Missed Connections and The Singing Room enjoyed successful sold-out runs in Denver in 2012 and 2013, respectively. A collection of Mahoney's one-act comedies, A Fairy's Tales debuted last summer while other short works continue to be submitted, rejected and sometimes even accepted by playwrighting festivals around the country.

Mahoney and his husband are the co-founders of Horse & Cart, a theatrical production company dedicated to new works. Mahoney's writing can next be seen in Your Heart is a Radio, a monologue mixtape debuting this fall and in a collection of his writing about recovery entitled, Sparkleholic to be released in 2016. To keep his lights on, Mahoney works as a social media manager and freelance copywriter.

Like most addicts/alcoholics Mahoney is best enjoyed in small doses so following him on Twitter, @seanpaulmahoney, or reading his blog, urtheinspiration.wordpress.com, is probably the way to go.

CREDITS: Intro: Holiday Rap / MC Miker G & DJ Sven / 1986 ::: Outro: Modern Problems (Chevy Chase) / 1981 / 20th Century Fox ::: Image: Album Cover Remix by K+S of Moby's "Play"

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"On the fourth we're going to stand next to each other and be like, 'Do you believe this?'"—Donald on SRN

Donald (Ep.1523) joins us this time in his official role as a representative of Facing Addiction and the organization's upcoming UNITE to Face Addiction rally in Washington, DC

The Day the Silence Ends / #RecoverOutLoud The time has come to UNITE to Face Addiction and stand up for recovery. On October 4, 2015 a transformative event will take place in Washington, DC that will ignite and build a movement to address one of the most pressing health issues of our time.

Learn More: http://www.FacingAddiction.org

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"I think I was drinking suicidally from day one where I need to drink myself into oblivion and not feel or remember anything." —Jill on SRN

Jillian Bauer is a Philadelphia-based multimedia entrepreneur and educator specializing in audiovisual storytelling. She was recently profiled by the Philadelphia City Paper, WHYY and The Philadelphia Inquirer for her work on The Rooms Project, a photo and audio story series on individuals living in recovery from addiction and alcoholism.

Since March 2014 Jillian has driven through nearly twenty states where she’s captured the stories of more than 100 people. Through her work she aims to share stories of life on the other side of addiction, giving recovery a voice through the stories of experience, strength, and hope often heard in "the rooms" of recovery support groups and meetings.

When she’s not traveling, Jillian teaches courses in journalism and interactive design at Temple and Philadelphia University. On the weekends she eats lots of snacks and spends time with "Mr. Jill." Feel free to find out more about Jillian at @throomsproject on Twitter.

http://TheRoomsProject.org

@throomsproject on Twitter (That's not a typo—there's really missing "e")

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"I spent all the kids’ Christmas money. I got drunk. I took all the money that my wife and I had saved. I was supposed to be picking up some big gifts a couple days before Christmas but instead I went to the bar…" —Robert on SRN

Robert McClellan is a writer, producer and new media expert. He wrote, produced and appears in the award-winning documentary “Real Sobriety” and has recently released his first full length book, "Boom Baby Boom, Vol. 1: Tales of Sex, Drugs, Rock & Roll and Recovery", and has a drawer full of incomplete film treatments and screenplays.

After several stints in rehabs and a few half-hearted attempts to clean up his act, Robert made the commitment to live a clean, sober, and happy life. Robert will soon mark his 26th year in recovery.

Find out more about Robert and his projects at http://www.intotheplanet.com/real-sobriety/

and follow Robert on Twitter @McClellanRobert

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"(The counselor) had me go through the "Are You and Alcoholic?" checklist…and I said 'yes' to just about everything and I think I said, 'But I don't know if I have a problem.' And she was like, why did you come here?" —Laura on SRN

Laura Silverman is the founder of The Sobriety Collective, a resource and blog created to celebrate recovery in all its forms. In 2007, at age 24, Laura pulled a 180 and went from insecure, anxious binge drinker to newly-minted sober 20-something. This scary (but, for her, absolutely necessary) step catapulted her into a journey of long-term recovery. She may not be a card-carrying member of AA, but Laura will always have gratitude for the program that welcomed her with open arms and helps millions of others around the world. She believes in the raw power of storytelling and thanks Koren Zailckas, Sacha Z. Scoblic, Caroline Knapp, Kristen Johnston, and Sarah Hepola for their fantastic memoirs of addiction and recovery.

Laura absolutely loves the #RecoveryFriendlyWeb in all its glory and is super-pumped for the new recovery movement’s UNITE to Face Addiction in Washington, DC this October. Laura also spits fi-yah on a karaoke mic.

You can find out more about Laura at @wearesober on Twitter, TheSobrietyCollective.com and in her story on KLĒN + SŌBR

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"There's no reason to wait until you're in a public park with your pants around your ankles to be like, Wait! I should quit drinking!" —Sacha on SRN

Sacha Zimmerman Scoblic is a writer and editor. She is the author of Unwasted: My Lush Sobriety, which is based on her popular essays for The New York Times‘s “Proof: Alcohol and American Life.”

Currently, Sacha is an MFA candidate at NYU’s low-residency program in Paris, where she is writing a novel. She spends her days at the Watergate as the proud copy-chief for National Journal. Sacha is a former Rosalynn Carter fellow for mental health journalism through the Carter Center in Atlanta. Previously, Sacha worked at The New Republic for 13 years and even spent a few years at Reader’s Digest. She has written about everything from space camp to pulp fiction. Sacha lives with her son, Theo, and terrier, SciFi, in Washington, DC.

Sacha/Unwasted on the Web:

Unwasted: My Lush Sobriety / http://sachazscoblic.com/unwasted/

@sachaZscoblic on Twitter / https://twitter.com/sachaZscoblic

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"I would quit for a few weeks or a month and congratulate myself on not being a cocaine addict and then I'd go back to doing it." —Anna on SRN

Anna, founder of the AfterParty Empire joined us for a super fantastic addiction recovery podcast mashup episode. It was kind of like having Robert Plant sit in with your Led Zeppelin tribute band.

Select References: The Mental Illness Happy Hour Podcast / http://mentalpod.com Chris' Q&A w/ Danielle Stewart on AfterPartyMagazine / http://rehabreviews.com/reader-spotlight-got-sober-chris/

Anna/AfterParty on the Web: AfterPartyPod / http://rehabreviews.com/category/podcast/ Twitter / https://twitter.com/afterpartysite

Clips: Intro: Annie Hall (Woody Allen, Diane Keaton) / 1977 / United Artists :: Outro: Modern Problems (Chevy Chase) / 1981 / 20th Century Fox

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"I became addicted to heroin when I had just wrapped up a White House internship."—Ivana on SRN

Select References: Stacie Mathewson / http://staciemathewsonfoundation.org Comprehensive Addiction and Recovery Act 2015 / https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/953

Ivana on the Web: Transforming Youth Recovery / http://www.transformingyouthrecovery.org

Twitter / https://twitter.com/IvanaGrahovac1

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"I collapsed on the floor and the last thing I remember is the taste…it was a bitter, gritty taste." — Jason on SRN

Jason on the Web: http://authorjasonsmith.com http://therealedition.com @mrjazone on Twitter

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"You get sober and you realize that person you were pretending to be you actually are." —Sarah on SRN

If you've read Sarah's beautifully-crafted memoir of active alcoholism and recovery you're going to want to listen. Sarah's candor and good-humor made for a terrifically insightful and enjoyable episode.

If you haven't read it…WTF? Get it. Read it. Then come back and listen.

Sarah on the Web: Site / http://sarahhepola.com Twitter / https://twitter.com/sarahhepola

Clip: Amy Winehouse / 2006 / Recording session for "Back to Black"

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"No one was watching me anymore. Which was what I wanted…but it was terrifying also." — Laura of IFlyatNight.com

Select References: Earl Hightower "tapes" / Recovery Audio Speaker Series / http://bit.ly/1RUdTba

Why AA Works for Me / Laura @ Hip Sobriety / http://bit.ly/1CdNDH4

ichooseclean / Instagram / http://bit.ly/1UdgQaG

E.L. Doctorow on writing / @ Brainy Quote / http://bit.ly/1Nzz6G2

Clip: Airplane / 1980 / Paramount Pictures

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Men & Gentleladies! The man with the most-read piece to date on KLĒN + SŌBR! Shane Watson!

Shane's Recovery Story: http://www.sincerightnow.com/stories/2015/5/22/shane-since-november-2014

Let's All Go to the Lobby [Trad.] David After Dentist [SRN Edit]

Image: From the "Oilette" Series [crop/color by K+S] / Raphael Tuck & Sons / 1907 / CC via Roomnoir / Flickr

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Donald has over three decades of experience in politics. His work has combined communications, field, electoral, and advocacy experience. He's also in long-term recovery. Donald is now applying his formidable talents to a deeply personal cause as the Communications Director for UNITE to Face Addiction.

This will be one of two appearances by Donald before October 4, 2015. This first appearance will be a more personal visit with Donald—the person in long-term recovery, the second we'll delve more deeply into the ground-breaking event to #EndtheSilence and #RecoverOutLoud on the Mall this October.

Find out more about Unite to Face Addiction @ http://www.facingaddiction.org

Clip: JL-D as President Selena Meyer on HBO's VEEP.

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SPECIAL EPISODE Three dudes in a car on the way back to STL from Akron talking about their experience at Founders' Day on the 80th Anniversary of Alcoholics Anonymous.

Cover: Henrietta Buckler Sieberling / Akron Women's History / https://blogs.uakron.edu/womenshistory/2013/09/11/henrietta-buckler-seiberling-1888-1979/

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WIN A COPY OF SOBRIETY: A GRAPHIC NOVEL Leave a comment or review on SoundCloud or iTunes between June 11 and June 29, 2015 for a chance to win 1 of 2 copies we're giving away. Drawing on June 29th, 2015. ____________________________________________

It's been a long time coming but it was well-worth the wait. We chat with the ebullient author of our favorite graphic novel about sobriety, Dan "The Story Man" Maurer.

Read an excerpt here: http://www.sincerightnow.com/sobriety-a-graphic-novel

Visit Dan @ http://www.danthestoryman.com Twitter: @danthestoryman

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Los Caballeros de Recovery tuvieron una conversación encantadora con la Sober Señorita. ¡Escucha ahora!

Referenced: Anonymity in AA and the Age of the Internet / http://sobersenorita.com/2015/05/21/anonymity-in-aa-and-the-age-of-the-internet/

5 Reasons You Should Go to That AA Meeting You’ve Been Thinking About / http://www.ihavewill.com/5-reasons-you-should-go-to-that-aa-meeting-youve-been-thinking-about/

6 Things I Learned During Two Years Without Alcohol / http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-fitzgerald/6-things-i-learned-during-two-years-without-alcohol_b_7235048.html

Cinco De Mayo: Yet Another Drinking ‘Holiday’ / http://www.addiction.com/expert-blogs/cinco-de-mayo-yet-another-drinking-holiday/

Founders' Day 2015 / https://foundersdayregistration.akronaa.org

AA Int'l Convention / http://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/2015-international-convention-of-alcoholics-anonymous

Unite to Face Addiction / http://www.facingaddiction.org

Find Kelly @ http://sobersenorita.com

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Whence the AA hate? Recovery is a spectrum with highly-personal stories along it's length. Why must one person's experience necessarily be another's.

Even as a #nonAnon Chris doesn't get the AA haters.

Referenced: @DrunkenNeuron / The Alcoholic's Guide to Alcoholism / http://alcoholicsguidetoalcoholism.com

@Rebellion_Dogs / Rebellion Dogs Publishing / http://rebelliondogspublishing.com

@mylaststand_org / My Beef With #AA / http://mylaststand.org/post/98318610222/my-beef-with-aa

@wearesober / What AA Taught Me: Musings from A Non-AAer / http://www.thesobrietycollective.com/blog/2015/5/what-aa-taught-me

KLĒN + SŌBR on Facebook / https://www.facebook.com/KLENandSOBR

Since Right Now Audience Survey / http://www.podtrac.com/audience/start-survey.aspx?pubid=BmiKe4TJqGkG&ver=standard

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Shot Out of A (Water) Cannon.

Wes is quite literally a man on a mission. Just 10 months sober, he's working with a fervor to carry the message while he carries (his) water to the recovery community and beyond.

"It's not because we're so fcking cool. It's because this epidemic is so fcking huge." —Wes Hurt

CLEAN Cause Water / http://cleancause.com

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Sobriety does not inoculate us against the trials and tribulations of life. We use the idea of "Maintaining long-term sobriety through life-altering challenges & changes" as our guide through this episode.

Referenced: The Spirituality of Imperfection: Storytelling & the Search for Meaning / Kurtz & Ketcham / 1992 / http://www.amazon.com/The-Spirituality-Imperfection-Storytelling-Meaning/dp/0553371320

Not-God: A History of Alcoholics Anonymous / E. Kurtz / 1991 / http://www.amazon.com/Not-God-History-Alcoholics-Anonymous/dp/0894860658/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_y

Rewired: A Bold New Approach To Addiction and Recovery / E. Spiegelman / 2015 / http://www.amazon.com/Rewired-Bold-Approach-Addiction-Recovery/dp/1578265657

The Velveteen Rabbit / Williams & Nicholson / 1958 / http://www.amazon.com/Velveteen-Rabbit-Margery-Williams/dp/0385077254/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1431641759&sr=1-1&keywords=the+velveteen+rabbit

NOTE: Joe's audio quality sounded like he was in a wind tunnel. I tried to fix it but couldn't. It does get a bit better about 9 minutes in when I manage to separate it from Jeff and my audio. You're welcome.

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"Paul" is a recovering alcoholic, currently following a PhD into the neuromechanisms of addictive behaviours. His own experience of recovery, coupled with his research over several years, led him to question why the way addicts and alcoholics talk about their condition as an “emotional disease” is rarely addressed in theories of addiction.

Chris jacked into the Trans-Atlantic Interweb to chat with this fascinating Irishman about recovery, AA, emotional disregulation, the acceptance of prescribed medication in sobriety, and much more.

You may want to listen to this one more than once.

The Alcoholic's Guide to Alcoholism: http://alcoholicsguidetoalcoholism.com

Paul on Twitter: @DrunkenNeuron

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Jeff, Matt and Chris have all spent rather lengthy segments of their respective careers creating advertising and promotions for alcohol. We've worked on beers and spirits major and minor. We've done it together, separately and in pairs at a variety of agencies. We finally sit down together and talk about how, as three sober dudes, we feel about it. Then and since right now.

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Flatulence, Opioids & Abraham Lincoln. One of these things is not like the other.

100Pedals.com / Dave Cooke

Opioid Misuse In Chronic Pain Patients Is Around 25% / Forbes / http://www.forbes.com/sites/cjarlotta/2015/04/01/opioid-misuse-in-chronic-pain-patients-is-around-25-new-study-shows/?utm_source=linkedin&utm_medium=tweet&utm_campaign=social

Kids allowed sips of alcohol are more likely to drink in high school / CNN / http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/31/living/feat-sipping-alcohol-kids-drinking-impact-parents/

James Frey / Wikipedia / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Frey

SRN Pod Survey / http://www.podtrac.com/audience/start-survey.aspx?pubid=BmiKe4TJqGkG&ver=standard

Clips: Confessions of an Opium Eater f. Vincent Price / 1962 / IMDB http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055864/

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We had an absolutely terrific chat with Magz, Chris shares the bit of familial closure he got this past week and we tease Episode 1515. A Very Special Episode.

Be sure to visit Magz @ SoberCourage.com

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Dave's back! With the A to last episodes Q.

AND!

Audio from first SRN LIVE! on Periscope / http://periscope.tv We're going to start live-streaming video of the podcast recording beginning with next episode.

Referenced: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road: Our Children and Drugs / Bob Meehan / http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Yellow-Brick-Road-Children/dp/0970232705

addictionchat / Twitter / Wednesdays @ 8:00p C

http://tweetchat.com is a great tool to follow or participate.

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Thanks to technical difficulties we have the first part of our first two-parter. And our first cliffhanger!

Dave knows first-hand the "confusion, heartache, and despair" of a parent to a child addicted to heroin. In the midst of his feelings of helplessness and hopelessness he worked his way into a plan that would turn his son's life and his own around.

http://www.100pedals.com

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Matt turns 1!

REFERENCED

Marijuana Maintenance / via Choose Help / http://www.choosehelp.com/topics/harm-reduction/considering-marijuana-maintenance-cannabis-as-a-substitution-therapy-for-alcoholism

Palcohol (powdered alcohol) / via NYT / http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/04/business/powdered-alcohol-meets-resistance-in-us-before-it-even-comes-to-market.html?_r=0

Coffee / via TIME / http://time.com/3739326/coffee-healthy-caffeine/

Upcoming! The SRN Schedule / http://www.sincerightnow.com/upcoming/

SRN Listener Survey / http://www.podtrac.com/audience/start-survey.aspx?pubid=BmiKe4TJqGkG&ver=standard

HOTLINE! / (K+S) KLN-SBR1 —or— (507-556-7271)

Clips / Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood f. Fred Rogers

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Originally recorded January 28, 2015.

Jeff, Chris and Matt discuss therapy. You just can't hear Matt.

Clip: The Lost Weekend f. Ray Miland / 1945 / http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037884/

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Jeff, Matt & Chris return refreshed and renewed with a wide-ranging, edge-of-your-seat recovery chat. At times aimless and unfocused and at times meandering across barely-related tangents, you won't want to miss this very special episode.

Referenced:

Moderation Management / http://moderation.org

Rethinking Alcohol: Can Heavy Drinkers Learn To Cut Back? / NPR / http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2015/03/23/393651417/rethinking-alcohol-can-heavy-drinkers-learn-to-cut-back

Krokodil (Desomorphine) / Wikipedia / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desomorphine

Matcha / Wikipedia / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matcha

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Three friends in recovery from alcohol and other drugs talking about it.

Clip: It's A Wonderful Life / 1946 / Liberty Films

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"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."—Not Albert Einstein*

In the interest of demonstrating our sanity, Jeff, Matt and I went to a SMART Recovery meeting (http://smartrecovery.org). Then we talked about it.

*The earliest verifiable instances of the quote are:

Alcoholics Anonymous / Step 2: A Promise of Hope (pamphlet) / 1980 Narcotics Anonymous / The Basic Text of Narcotics Anonymous / 1981

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In which Jeff, Matt and Chris discuss getting sober, staying sober, triggers, N.A., rehab and more!

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As persons in recovery what is our responsibility to others in recovery?

Paul came back. https://twitter.com/mssginbottle

Social Networks and Social Media Can Help in Recovery From Addiction / HuffPo, Healthy Living / http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sack-md/addicts-support_b_1609085.html

Clips:

Are You That Somebody? (Timbaland Intro) / 1998 / Aaliyah

We Are Your Friends (Reprise) [Live] / 2008 / Justice

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Bad attitudes and “banal platitudes” in recovery.

Referenced:

Codependent No More: How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself / Melody Battle / http://amzn.com/0894864025

Hostage to the Devil: The Possession and Exorcism of Five Contemporary Americans / Malachi Martin / http://amzn.com/006065337X

Do You Have FOMO: Fear Of Missing Out? / Forbes / http://www.forbes.com/sites/work-in-progress/2014/03/27/do-you-have-fomo-fear-of-missing-out/

Big Book, Chapter 5: How It Works / http://www.aa.org/assets/en_US/aa-literature/p-10-how-it-works

This Is Water / David Foster Wallace / http://vimeo.com/68855377

blunt / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blunt_(cannabis_cigar)

Clips:

Get Ready For This / 2 Unlimited / 1991

This Is Water / DFW / 2005 / Kenyon College

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Pondered with our usual lack of reverence and/or qualification:

Substance Use Disorder, Semantics and Stigma

Harm Reduction / http://harmreduction.org

Moderation Management / http://moderation.org

SMART Recovery / http://www.smartrecovery.org

Is the use of hallucinogens—specifically psilocybin—a good idea in the interest of pursuing one’s spirituality as it relates to one’s recovery?

Clip: The Breakfast Club, 1985, Universal Pictures

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Ep. 1502 Recover, Rewind, Review Clean and Sober

In which Jeff, Matt and I discuss the 1988 Michael Keaton rehab/12 Step classic then finish with an extended discussion that covers the 12th Step, the 11th tradition and anonymity in recovery.

Referenced: Atuk. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atuk) The screenwriter, Tod Carroll’s unfilmed, and supposedly cursed, script. It’s taken the lives of at least three well-known substance-abusing actors.

Jerry Stahl. Writer of both screwball, illegal alien sitcom, Alf (http://youtu.be/Eo5tBDXyQno)and his autobiographical story of his heroin addiction—and Ben Stiller tragicomic vehicle—Permanent Midnight. (http://youtu.be/LF5I7Tcrgq0)

All clips from the film Clean and Sober / 1988 / Warner Bros. With the exception of “My name is John…” clip from Dear John (TV) / 1988 / CBS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dear_John_(U.S._TV_series))

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Tell A Friend…Seriously, Tell A Friend.

Thanks for sticking with us while we took a couple of weeks off to deck our halls, roast our chestnuts and dash through snow laughing all the way. (And, no, none of those are euphemisms.) I toyed with making a withdrawal reference but it seemed a bit too lazy and probably not that funny and two of my NY rezzies are to be less lazy and more funny. And besides, I know you missed us.

The important thing is that we're back and back and talking recovery with a new episode of the Since Right Now Pod.

• The in-studio SRN Crew of Jeff, Matt and Chris—that's me—catch up and chat about resolutions and the challenges we faced and wonders we witnessed during this past Season of Joy, Merriment and Crushing Anxiety.

• I think we start making plans to put on a pop-up dry bar here in the STL

• We talk about the smoking elephant in the rooms: smoking in recovery

• Jeff and Matt (AA) help Chris (non-AA) work through some Step 4 and Step 9 questions with some 12 Step advice

• Oh, and Chris gives a shameless, but genuine, plug for his new favorite chilly B, Q Ginger Ale , and Jeff gives Chantix another ringing endorsement

• And a whole load of shite about inferiority complexes, self-loathing and the generally dickish behaviour of our pasts. Whee!

• Marilyn will join us (ir)regularly beginning with Ep.1502.0 to cast a ray of light over these somber proceedings

Please visit http://www.sincerightnow.com/pdcst for full show notes w/ links.

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"No matter where you go, there you are." — Buckaroo Banzai*

Jeff and Chris are joined by episode 22's Matt and episode 16's Marilyn for a super fun square table discussion about isolation and addiction.

*Okay, Confucius said it first but…whatevs.

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Jeff and Chris welcome (back) their long-time friend from a stint in the wild. In Matt's story relapse is indeed a part of recovery.

REFERENCED Legal drugs / How powerful synthetic drugs will upend drug markets globally / Washington Post / http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/12/02/how-powerful-synthetic-drugs-will-upend-drug-markets-globally/

MUSIC https://soundcloud.com/djfmdotcom

IMAGE Hindenburg crashing / 1937 / Associate Press / public domain via Wikimedia

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Just two dudes talking about sobriety and recovery and trying to figure out what it all means.

REFERENCED

You're in recovery if… / Addiction & Recovery News / https://addictionandrecoverynews.wordpress.com/2014/11/10/youre-in-recovery-if/

Nalmefene / Middle-Class Drinkers to be Given £3 Daily Alcohol Pill to Reduce Binges / International Business Times (UK) / http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/middle-class-drinkers-be-given-3-daily-alcohol-pill-reduce-binges-1476688

(DSM-V) Revised Criteria for Alcohol and Substance Use Disorders / Psyche Central / http://psychcentral.com/disorders/revised-alcoholsubstance-use-disorder/all/1/

IMAGE CBD / 2012 / Kevin Ho / CC via Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevho86/

MUSIC https://soundcloud.com/djfmdotcom

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Jeff & Chris talk about being sober during the Holidays. Our new segment, 100% Volume by Alcoholics (with Marilyn Spiller of WakingUpTheGhost.com), has been postponed until a later episode.

Referenced

addictionchat “Recovery-full Holidays” / @LEAFcouncil

Blackout Wednesday / Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackout_Wednesday

Q: Does alcohol cook off in food preparation? A: It’s complicated. http://homecooking.about.com/library/archive/blalcohol12.htm

Zevia Sparkling Celebrations / Whole Foods https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/shop/FFX/2369/15725

Manischewitz (makers of Manischewitz kosher wine) / Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manischewitz

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In his riveting visit with us, the deeply-thoughtful and erudite Jon G. takes us to and through his recovery up to this point and gives us a glimpse behind the decks as a DJ in recovery.

REFERENCED

Sober And Sold-Out: Dance Club In Sweden Cuts Booze For A Night / NPR http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/09/28/352279829/sober-and-sold-out-dance-club-in-sweden-cuts-booze-for-a-night

Jump-Start Your Workday With an 8 A.M. Rave / NYT http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/nyregion/daybreaker-an-alcohol-free-morning-dance-party.html?_r=0

Last Man Standing / DJ FM https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/last-man-standing/id872537517

ACOA / Adult Children of Alcoholics http://www.adultchildren.org

White Chip (“Surrender” Token) / AA http://www.woodenurecover.com/AA-White-Chip--Plastic-Token_p_119583.html

Holly Glenn Whitaker / Hip Sobriety http://www.hipsobriety.com

Oxford House / Self-Help for Sobriety Without Relapse http://www.oxfordhouse.org/userfiles/file/

IMAGE [Radio tower?] / ca. 1927 / Harris & Ewing / public domain via Library of Congress

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Joe, who got sober in his teens and is about to celebrate his 38th year of sobriety this month, is a man of many hats and talents. Joe’s a recovery trailblazer in the vanguard of those actively working to shape the fast-evolving recovery landscape. Through his Recovery Dogs imprint, Joe recently published Beyond Belief: Agnostic Musings for 12 Step Life. He joined us days before he’s set to be the opening speaker at the inaugural We Agnostics and Freethinkers International AA Conference.

Referenced:

“Whatever course you decide upon there is always someone to tell you you’re wrong.” / Ralph Waldo Emerson / from November 3 entry in Beyond Belief http://thinkexist.com/quotation/whatever_course_you_decide_upon-there_is_always/14528.html

Beyond Belief: Agnostic Musings for 12 Step Life / Joe C. / Rebellion Dogs Publishing http://rebelliondogspublishing.com/beyondbelief

We Agnostics and Freethinkers International AA Confernece / November 6-8, 2014 / Santa Monica, CA http://waftiaac.org

Chapter 4: We Agnostics [PDF] / The Big Book / Alcoholics Anonymous http://www.aa.org/assets/en_US/en_bigbook_chapt4.pdf

Jon Kabat-Zinn / Founding Executive Director of the Center for Mindfulness / U Mass Medical School http://www.umassmed.edu/cfm/about-us/people/2-meet-our-faculty/kabat-zinn-profile/

James Christopher / Founder Secular Organizations for Sobriety http://www.sossobriety.org/james%20christopher.htm

Teens with ADHD More Likely to Have Substance Abuse Issues / Partnership for Drug-Free Kids http://www.drugfree.org/join-together/teens-with-adhd-more-likely-to-have-substance-abuse-issues/

Fast Minds: How to Thrive If You Have ADHD (Or Think You Might) / Dr. Tim Bilkey http://www.timbilkeymd.com

Image: Duke on the Crater's Edge / 1972 / NASA

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Waking Up the Ghost? I’ll let Marilyn explain:

“… the first time I heard that expression, I was sitting on a deserted island in the Exumas, with a jaundiced Bahamian named Sands. I think it is also the first time a Bahamian man has ever refused a free drink. What Sands meant, was that the icy beer I offered would lead to another, and another and another; it was safer to keep the Ghost in check by not drinking at all.”

A year and a half into her recovery Marilyn shares some insight on keeping the spirit(s) at bay.

Referenced

First Among Equals / Marilyn / Waking Up the Ghost http://wakinguptheghost.com/first-among-equals/

Land of the Lotus Eaters http://www.heritage-history.com/?c=read&author=langjean&book=odyssey&story=troyland

Darth Vader (Anakin Skywalker) http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anakin_Skywalker

Alan Carr’s Easyway To Stop Smoking http://www.allencarr.com

International Drinking Guidelines (Note: I had this wrong. It’s actually 1-2 drinks/day for women in much of the world.) http://www.icap.org/table/Internationaldrinkingguidelines

2.5 Million Alcohol Related Deaths Worldwide — Annually https://ncadd.org/in-the-news/155-25-million-alcohol-related-deaths-worldwide-annually

Image

Drinking Tea in the Blitz / photographer unknown / 1941 / via Retronaut

Music DJ FM https://soundcloud.com/djfmdotcom

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UPDATE / 10.19.15 / You can now hear Paul on his own podcast: https://soundcloud.com/buzzkill-pod ___________________________

Paul is many things in this fourth year of his recovery. We talk about a few of them.

REFERENCED

How Alcohol Saved My Life / Paul / http://messageinabottleblog.wordpress.com/2014/10/11/how-alcohol-saved-my-life/

The 3rd & 7th Steps 3rd: Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood God. / http://12step.org/the-12-steps/step-3.html 7th: Humbly asked God to remove our shortcomings. / http://12step.org/the-12-steps/step-7.html

The Power of Now / A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment / Eckhart Tolle / http://www.eckharttolle.com/books/now/

B.S. / Jeff & Chris / http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSis1Kp2YaMG1R7VAFAimA9lkmsq3w2pP

MUSIC DJ FM / https://soundcloud.com/djfmdotcom

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Chris goes to his second, Jeff takes someone else to their first and the 12th Step seems to have been the one that in one way or another got us each to our destinations.

Referenced

The 12th Step Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to other addicts, and to practice these principles in all our affairs. http://12step.org/the-12-steps/step-12.html

Headspace / Meditation App https://www.headspace.com

Centering Prayer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centering_prayer

Please visit: http://sincerightnow.com/pdcst for full show notes.

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SOMETIMES YOU DO GET A SECOND CHANCE TO MAKE A FIRST IMPRESSION.

In which the S.O.S meeting Jeff and Chris set out to attend is not the S.O.S. meeting they find. Which then leads Jeff to facilitate Chris’ second attempt at attending an A.A. meeting.

Will he go in?

Will he stay?

Do they cast him out as an imposter?

Do they welcome him as a brother?

Is there coffee?

Find out in this week’s episode…

We also talk through Step 11. http://12step.org/the-12-steps/step-11.html

REFERENCED

Secular Organizations for Sobriety (S.O.S) / http://www.sossobriety.org/

Sisters of Sobriety (S.o.S) / How some women-only Alcoholics Anonymous meetings identify themselves. / https://www.google.com/#q=sisters+of+sobriety

Headspace / Meditation app / https://www.headspace.com/headspace-meditation-app

Andrew Kukes Foundation for Social Anxiety / We didn’t actually mention this organization but it has a lot of good info / http://akfsa.org

IMAGE

Southington, Connecticut. A meeting / Charles Fenno Jacobs / 1942 / public domain via Library of Congress / http://loc.gov

MUSIC https://soundcloud.com/djfmdotcom

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One of Those Three Is Not A River In Egypt.

We talk about all three. Also, the question is raised as to whether Chris may be a narcissist.

REFERRENCED • Denial In Addicted Family Systems / HuffPo / http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-tian-dayton/alcoholism-family_b_2610766.html

• Addiction Denial and Cognitive Disfunction: A Preliminary Investigation / The Journal of Neuropsychiatry and Clinical Neurosciences / journals.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleid=101600

• Quiz: Are You A Narcissist? / TIME / http://time.com/3136687/narcissist-quiz/

IMAGE A typical Egyptian village in the Nile Valley [detail, colorized by K+S] / ca. 1911 / Underwood & Underwood / public domain via Library of Congress / http://loc.gov

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Sober Dates, Slips, Relapse, Second Stage Recovery & Step 9

The second episode to solicit topics via Twitter is the first to be informed almost entirely by a Twitter Topic. Chris and Jeff do their best to explore a two-part suggestion by @BeckyGetsSober.

Twitter Topic BeckyGetsSober https://twitter.com/BeckyGetsSober/status/511678004708130817

Referrenced

Stage II Recovery: Life Beyond Addiction / Earnie Larson http://www.amazon.com/Stage-II-Recovery-Beyond-Addiction/dp/0866834605

Whatever Happened to the Circle and Triangle? (pdf) / reproduced from Grapevine ca. 1993 http://silkworth.net/pdfGSC/Around-AA-Dec-1993.pdf

Recovery Ink: Chris https://app.box.com/s/z2sg0pr8keod5f66q0aj and Jeff https://app.box.com/s/nqp6ng99k1ieye0a77kn

Since Right Now Studios Coffee Table feat. Beyond Belief: Agnostic Musings for 12 Step Life / Joe C. https://twitter.com/Rebellion_Dogs, Rebellion Dogs Publishing

The First 30 Days to Serenity / Super Star https://twitter.com/sobersuperstar

And The Guide to Drinking (2014) / Sauce Magazine (St. Louis) http://issuu.com/saucemag/docs/drinkingguide2014lr?e=0

Image Prohibition (Jefferson Liquor Company storefront with customers) / ca. 1918 / Photographer unidentified / Maryland Historical Society http://mdhsphotographs.tumblr.com/post/12250017834/prohibition-jefferson-liquor-company-storefront

Music https://soundcloud.com/djfmdotcom

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Anonymity. Shame. Stigma. Ain't nobody got time for that. Chris and Jeff talk about it.

Referenced: How Addiction Really Affects The Family / AddictionBlog.org http://alcohol.addictionblog.org/how-addiction-really-affects-the-family/

Allen Carr's Easyway To Stop Smoking / Allen Carr http://www.allencarr.com

Chantix / "A non-nicotine prescription medicine specifically developed to help adults 18 and over quit smoking." https://www.chantix.com

Thanks for the Twitter Questions: http://twitter.com/mssginbottle http://twitter.com/DMBismysanity

Music: DJ FM / soundcloud.com/djfmdotcom

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After a brief "celebration" of Chris' Sober Birthday (9.1.97) Chris and Jeff talk about the challenge of a family get together when there's an alcoholic elephant in the room wearing the addict Emperor's new clothes.

Then Jeff explains Step 7 to Chris and tries to get him to admit to a P H'er than himself.

Referenced

International Overdose Awareness Day / August 31 / http://overdoseday.com

Recovery Month / September / http://recoverymonth.gov

Al-Anon / Strenght and hope for friends and family of problem drinkers. / http://al-anon.alateen.org

Music

Intro: Cradle, Outro: Memory / DJ FM / https://soundcloud.com/djfmdotcom

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Destruction $150,000 of Whiskey, Girard, Ala. / Bain News Service / ca. 1915-1920 / Public domain via Library of Congress, http://loc.gov

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We briefly consider how we, as addicts, feel about the terms used to describe us. By others? By ourselves? Then we consider—at length!—what's up with addicts so often being plagued by depression and creativity.

Referenced in this episode

How Language Can Undermine Addiction Recovery / Melissa Dahl, New York Magazine http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/08/how-language-can-undermine-addiction-recovery.html

We Are Having the Wrong Conversation About Robin Williams / Richard Taite, Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-taite/robin-williams-we-are-hav_b_5697796.html

Gifted, Talented, Addicted / Douglas Eby, Talent Development Resources http://talentdevelop.com/articles/GTA.html

The 27 Club / Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

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Jeff and Chris chat—and laugh—about getting to the truth in recovery (both in general and in the context of the 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous,) the shame we accumulate during our active addiction, and how it all sort of ties into our big, messy addicts' egos.

REFERENCED Thirteen Truths and A Lie — An Annotated List / Chris, 2008 https://SinceRightNow.com/insights/2014/8/13/thirteen-truths-and-a-lie-an-annotated-list

Radical Honesty / Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Honesty

Robin Williams’ divine madness will no longer disrupt the sadness of the world / Russell Brand, The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/12/russell-brand-robin-williams-divine-madness-broken-world

PostSecret: http://postsecret.com

So let me tell you about the time I ended up knee deep… / Waking Up the Ghost: http://www.wakinguptheghost.com/blog/so-let-me-tell-you-about-the-time-i-ended-up-knee-deep

MUSIC Intro: Cradle / Outro: Memory https://soundcloud.com/djfmdotcom

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What a week.

Referenced in this episode:

Robin Williams Norm Macdonald's Twitter tribute http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/12/norm-macdonald-robin-williams-twitter-tribute_n_5672465.html

Rob Delaney: On Depression & Getting Help http://robdelaney.tumblr.com/post/414007899/on-depression-getting-help

The Fix: Can an AA Critic and a 12-Step Advocate Get Along? http://www.thefix.com/content/can-aa-critic-and-12-step-advocate-get-along

And Everything Afterwards: Robin Williams found dead at home — suspected suicide by asphyxiation http://lifeafteralcohol.com/2014/08/12/robin-williams-found-dead-at-home-suspected-suicide-by-asphyxiation/ Though it was published after we had recorded this post—specifically it's comments—illustrate well some of the issues surrounding how addiction and depression are perceived.

I almost forgot, from a now defunct blog of Chris':

Thirteen Truths and A Lie — An Annotated List https://SinceRightNow.com/insights/2014/8/13/thirteen-truths-and-a-lie-an-annotated-list

Intro: Cradle — DJ FM Outro: Memory — DJ FM @djfmdotcom

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Longtime-friends, Chris and Jeff, have over 30 years in relapse-free recovery between them. In this episode they continute to each learn a bit more about the other's recovery. The emotional and sensory numbness of early-sobriety and the "you" that you have to deal with once the alcohol and/or drugs are gone are two topics explored.

Notes:

•I need to take notes. I apologize to Peter Litton and Tom Mohr of SoberingStories.com for a less-than-artful telling of your story. I also need to beg forgiveness from StopHeroin.org for not being better prepared to tell your story. Listeners, please clicks the preceding links to learn more about these two groups and the powerful work they're doing.

•Regarding issues covered on the Since Right Now Podcast we are not professionals. We're just a couple of 40-something guys with two different paths to long-term sobriety offering opinions and insights based on their experiences. We do, however, hope you find something intereseting and hopefully relevant to your recovery.

•Also, Chris was suffering from a bit of low-grade dysthymia this episode.

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Meet your co-hosts, long-time friends, Chris and Jeff, as they discuss how they got to right now. Jeff, the one who just celebrated 14 years of sobriety, has been goint to AA since before he was in recovery. Chris, who'll soon celebrate 17 years, has never been to a meeting.

This is the beginning of what we hope will be an insightful, inspirational, challenging and hopeful exploration of recovery in all its forms. On the Since Right Now Podcast we'll laugh about recovery (and addiction), we'll swear at addiction (and ourselves) and maybe…just maybe…on some future episode…we'll talk about that one time when we cried.

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It began not with a bang, but with a whimper.

I have exhumed the very first expression of Since Right Now and have recommitted it to the record for posterity and the completists.

Recorded on an iPhone using the white Apple earbuds. Originally released June 15, 2014.

CREDITS Image: "Lil' Dirty Blue Eyes" based on a photo of unknown provenance.

Intro/outro: A lot of other people's © stuff.