Two Bearded Preachers: Recent Episodes
Martin Bender and Justin Larkin
Justin and Martin are preachers with beards who talk to each other! Every episode includes delightful discussion from a Christian perspective. They hit on everything from pop culture to historical theology. Give them a listen and be sure to subscribe.
Spire Conference - Preconference - Weedership - Levi Lusko, speaker
Proverbs 24:30–34 (ESV):
30 I passed by the field of a sluggard, by the vineyard of a man lacking sense, 31 and behold, it was all overgrown with thorns; the ground was covered with nettles, and its stone wall was broken down. 32 Then I saw and considered it; I looked and received instruction. 33 A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, 34 and poverty will come upon you like a robber, and want like an armed man.
Leading is weeding. That’s the major thought Levi Lusko expressed in his talk. Once I got passed his painted on skinny jeans and the fact that he almost used the word of curse made popular by South Park I was able to take a few notes. The following thoughts are based on those.
Weeds are easy but wheat is hard. It is a simple thing to let problems fester. The problems in your ministry are weeds. They grow fast, multiply, wreak havoc on your intended crop, are an inevitable byproduct of ministry work, and are always ready to make a comeback. All these points I have witnessed in my few years preaching. I wonder if I am sufficiently aggressive in addressing problems as they arise. I’m probably not. The severity of the issue ought to dictate the level of aggressiveness in addressing issues, right? That’s the way I’m currently playing it.
We don’t weed because it’s hard, we already did it once, someone else should take care of it, we just don’t have the time, we don’t want to get on our knees. There are always excuses not to do the thing that is necessary but uncomfortable in ministry. My experience in Clinical Pastoral Education taught me that the thing that seems the hardest is probably the think you need to do most, so that might be the best indicator of which task to take on first.
When others attempt to pull weeds from your life do they get poked? It really depends on who is doing the pulling. This is where the speaker got a little personal and tried to get us to apply the message to ourselves. Honestly, I have a few people I trust and will listen to carefully while others I may dismiss in whole or in part. It’s very situationally driven for me.
A few other thoughts I found interesting were recognizing the times when you need to imitate and the times you need to innovate, paying attention to and avoiding a cruise control mentality, and asking what areas of my leadership I am not paying attention to. In answer to the last question I am probably not being sufficiently intentional in developing the other leaders that currently work with me in the church.
It seemed like Levi had just been flown in so I want to give him as much slack as possible especially since he didn’t have any at all in his pants.
Martin
Spire Conference - Pre Conference - RePOSITION - David Vaughn, speaker
The first note I have written is “What is this guy selling?”
Probably not the best way to start the show. I had the feeling I was being sold something from the very beginning. This feeling continued throughout the convention and I get it. The stuff they are promoting are helpful tools that have been successfully used in a variety of ministries but that isn’t the reason I left my family for a week, placed strain on my wife, and got behind in my regular weekly duties. I came to the Spire Conference to answer one simple question, “Should I continue to think of myself as a part of the Stone Campbell Movement?”
It’s the wrong question for Spire. In fact they didn’t seem to care about that at all.
What they did care about was church leadership. The following is based on my notes.
Leadership in the church can be fun. It can be work. It can be war. David Vaughn, the first speaker pointed this out. Justin, my best friend, said he came off as a jerk. I didn’t pick up on that. I thought he was using dry humor to emphasize some of the mistakes he made in leadership. Those words though... fun, work, war... they all resonated with me. I’ve had all three.
Vaughn suggested that church leadership today is about helping people change their attitudes in and around church.
Consumerism should be replaced with commitment. The church ought not be a place where we go to receive spiritual goods and services. Instead it is a community of people and ideas to which individuals commit themselves. When I was in seminary they were using the buzz word “relational”. The concept is sound but I still hate the word.
Religion should be replaced with relationship in transformational community. I hear this a lot. It’s a buzz phrase and should be dispensed with just as we have done with relational. (While we’re at it please stop saying “doing life”. We have a word for that - living.) I think we should be slow to abandon religion. By religion, I mean the cultic or ritualistic practiced associated with the faith. The rhythms of the liturgy are significant. They help to ground the ethereal elements of Christianity into the physical world and that is important. Simply look to the incarnation for proof.
Pragmatic leadership should be replaced with pastoral leadership. This seems to be a given since leadership in the church ought to always be pastoral first and then pragmatic. Applying this consistently is one of the greatest challenges I have had as a pastor. I think the secret is remaining focused on the long game rather than short gains.
“Come and see” should be replaced with “go and share”. Another given. Again one that is easier said. It’s much easier to shout “Look at what I can do!” Faithfully sharing the gospel to people who repeatedly reject it requires discipline most of us lack. Going and sharing has far greater biblical support than creating a spectacle. We ought not be clowns. The gospel is serious. Act like it.
Attending the church should be replaced with being the church. This is true but needs some explanation. The corporate gathering of believers is a critical part of the Christian life. There’s no getting around this. Go to church. At the same time, the life of believers is not only lived out in the worship service. It is lived daily in each and ever circumstance. This is being the church the other six days. Consistent application of good ecclesiology must be taught, encouraged, and demanded among congregations.
Identify mission critical pathways for your congregation. Healthy congregations understand their priorities. Knowing what is important forms decision making so that non essential preferred activities can be minimized in favor of that which is more impactful.
David Vaughn said, “It is easier to disciple lost people than to energize Christians.” That’s a rough quote. Neither of those things are easy or happen quickly. Just a fun little reality check.
Justin, my best friend who attended the conference with me said, “Get your old people to be nice, or at least not a—holes.” I think this can be extended to everyone in the church, especially personally. I’m trying.
Overall I thought the first lecture was decent. Repositioning a congregation for more effective ministry is a continuous activity that extends beyond practicality into the theological, social, and emotional development of both the congregation and the individual. I’m pretty sure we all knew that but a reminder doesn’t hurt.
Martin
Does the way a son mows the grass reflect on the father? Absolutely, so you had better do a good job. The same is true of a wife's ability to make a delicious comfort dish. All this and more are discussed in depth by Martin and Justin in episode 149.
Justin and Martin survive hurricane Dorian by buying extra snacks, going on vacation, and relying on their neighbors.
Justin fails at parent and it might cost him his shoes. Martin gambles on a low impact sheep. And Joshua Harris kissed marriage and Jesus good bye. All this and more.
The Boys are back from their summer time off and ready to misbehave. The Goats of Podcasting are back with more dad jokes and more shenanigans than ever before.
Justin and Martin ask if its racist to have kids pretend to be slaves during VBS. They also spend a little time talking about that time a stranger tried to sell Justin CBD oil in a Starbucks. Martin gets a little insensitive and wants to escape the pain and suffering of everyday life. All this and more from the Two Bearded Preachers!
Why would a minister try to hire someone to kill another person? Good question! Justin and Martin's discussion is centered around the latest celebrity pastor caught up in controversy.
The Two Bearded Preachers are at it again after a little break in the action. Justin and Martin rekindle their bromance talking about everything that's been going on in their lives and the stuff on their minds. Remember, this show is all about maintaining their relationship and a sense of sanity for two guys just trying to figure life out. It may be best to manage your expectations accordingly.
Read more at http://twobeardedpreachers.com/143-looking-casual-sponsorships-and-golf-outings#Z10UBhTCAKWdtjjM.99
The Two Bearded Preachers are at it again after a little break in the action. Justin and Martin rekindle their bromance talking about everything that's been going on in their lives and the stuff on their minds. Remember, this show is all about maintaining their relationship and a sense of sanity for two guys just trying to figure life out. It may be best to manage your expectations accordingly.
More podcast gold! Justin gets his finger broken by his wife. Martin is scamming for books. And finally Martin agrees that Justin is the wife in their relationship. All this and more.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
The boys are still alive! Sorry for the delay but they're back and edgier than ever. Listen as they take a call that causes them to lash out at all those preachers with expensive shoes and take shots at the every lovable Francis Chan. All this and more.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
The fellas take some phone calls. Martin gets slightly stoopid and Justin takes back the night.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Exciting times at Martin's church. They're using drums this week! Justin is struggling to sleep and Martin explains the taste of bacteria. All that and more.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
The boys are late this week but with good excuse. It was all Martin's fault. Now that we are back on track, love is in the air and your two favorite facially blessed individuals have a lot to say on the matter of weddings and marriage. All that and more.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
The boys are confronted by their own mortality again. Martin holds a revival in his town. Justin apparently isn't good enough to lead his revival. BUT TIM TEBOW IS! All this and more.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
The fellas discuss masculinity in our world today in the latest installment of the Two Bearded Preachers.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Right off the bat the butt talks starts. Martin of course starts by suggesting a new show to Justin. Then Martin's cat crashes the podcast. Then Martin describes in very vivid details killing his two turkeys. Enjoy!
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Kind of an odd discussion this week. Justin is offended. Martin is offended that Justin is offended. Then Martin offends Justin because he won't video himself getting milk straight from the goats utter. All that and more.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
The fellas get serious for a bit. But not before talking about Martin's duck ratio problem and arguing (like gentlemen) on who has the "Best Beard in the Business."
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Martin has the talk and gives us the follow up with all the deets! Plus the Biggie and 2-Pac fan comes out in both of them. Rest in peace ya'll!
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
How in the world this happened we don't know? One second we're talking about haircut and the next second we're talking about having the sex talk. Check out the very special "Birds and the Bees" Episode. You'll need to listen to this before next week. #StayBearded #BeardBehavior
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Did you think we died? Not yet! The boys are back and better than ever. Dr. Justin diagnosis Martin with a pretty bad case of "Hipsteritus," among other things. Martin voices his opinion of Third Day ripping off Pearl Jam. And Justin sings a rather rousing rendition of Carly Simon's song "You're So Vain." All that and more.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
The working mans podcast is back for your entertainment. Listen as they butcher quotes, discuss what their churches smell like, and come up with brilliant ideas for the "low church" pastoral uniform.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
This was a pre-thanksgiving podcast where Martin expresses his eternal optimism only to have his hopes and dreams crushed by Justin. Truly podcast gold!
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Martin expresses his strong feelings about mid-term voting that's sure to get up in trouble. Justin calls Martin out on his movie snobbery. And the shameless promoting of the Patreon sites is perfect.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
What would you do if a preacher challenged you to a fight? Tip from the two bearded preachers, unless it's one of us you can probably take them. Justin is afraid of carbs and Martin lives in fear of cutting off a finger, or something else. All this and more on the episode 126.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Join Martin and Justin as they discuss how to deal with internet trolls. Justin gets a new wardrobe. And Martin thinks Glennville is now famous because Will Smith filmed another crappy movie there. All that and more.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Martin and Justin ignore all major events going on in the world in order to talk about a gay farm. Terrorist are welcome to train in Georgia apparently. And Martin eats a homemade cookie seductively in front of Justin in order to tempt him into going to the dark side of healthy eating. Justin abstained. Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Martin compliments Justin only to belittle his intelligence later on. Martin then tries to hype the show up and fail miserably. And of course Justin says whatever he wants and no one can stop him. All that and more. Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Martin is trying to start his own show called "Sister Goats" where he marries off his ugly goat Clarence to two younger and better looking goats from the goat mill. Justin brings up another sad subject and Martin give horrible advice at first, but then comes around with some wisdom. How about that for some podcast gold!
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Martin is gonna kill an entire family of turkeys in 2019. Justin discovers that jeans have changed since he last bought a pair. And apparently dressing to impress has it's advantages... Martin might be getting a promotion based on his fancy suits. All that and more!
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
The boys are back at it again. Martin admits he has no idea what's going on in the world. Justin is preparing to be tortured for his faith, but there's some things off limits. They really didn't know what to talk about, but still it's podcast gold.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Closing in on episode 120! But before that... The boys talk about not being able to remember every single detail of every single sermon they have ever preached. Justin's salvation is put into question. And Martin evokes Justin's wrath by bringing up Olsteen again.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Once again the fellas are back doing what they do best...producing podcast gold. Justin got a great report back from his doctor. Martin is waging war on Roberts Rules of Order. And their good friend Leon is trying to pull a fast one over on Justin. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
It doesn't get any more real than this. An emotion packed episode where the fellas talk about death and Martin makes Justin cry. This would also be labeled as "Podcast Gold."
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
The second half of the epic on location episode from the Two Bearded Preachers.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
The Two Bearded Preachers were hanging out last week in Glennsville Georgia and decided to recorded some podcast gold while they were at it.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
The fellas are back at it again. Martin tricks Justin into gambling. Both discuss God's displeasure with rebranding. Justin remembers not remembering the good times in college. All this and more.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
All over the map in this episode. We've got priest slapping babies. Pastors choke slamming baptism. Spires. The Flash. Star Wars. Marvel. See what we mean?
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
The fellas try out something new on this podcast...lots of background noise that couldn't be removed. Martin turns out to be a sexist and Justin hates camp. All this and more on the latest episode of the Two Bearded Preachers.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
More Podcast Gold! Justin describes why he didn't go on the lamb and become a middle aged assassin. Martin makes up a new alcoholic drink. Both love the movie "So I Married An Ax Murderer."
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Here we go again! Martin loves stories that have people throwing up in them. Justin loves stories about Martin getting kicked in the groin by a much younger and better looking fella. And both recall how original intent of this podcast as scholarly discussion was thrown out the window for cheeky shenanigans and jokes. You're welcome Leia!
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
In the latest episode of the Two Bearded Preachers... Martin gets himself in trouble talking about the LGBTQ. Justin learns the reality that there are uncensored video games out there. And both appreciate the history of the church, but still question how in the world the 1950's style of church became the standard for how we have to do everything. All that and more!
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Justin gets slapped on the butt. Martin disagrees about Dr. Troll. And the fellas have a very special announcement about the podcast. Little hint... They're just getting started.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Breaking up is always hard to do. Justin gets a new painter. Martin bust on cowboy church. And both question Doug's decision to wear chaps, and only chaps, to church on Sunday. Nothing but the best for the bearded nation.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
In the latest episode Justin shares every detail about his eye Surgery. Martin apparently sounds young to a listener. And both answer an important question about the Christian and medical marijuana.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
While Justin recovered last week and Martin was too busy, this weeks "Podcast Gold" consisted of material not used from the last podcast they recorded. The truth is, even the material they cut is good enough for a new episode. Unfortunately not everyone shares that opinion. Make sure you listen to the end.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
Martin W. Bender A friend of mine asked me to read Powerful and Free: Confronting the Glass Ceiling for Women in the Church by Danny Silk. He was excited about the book, saying it would be impactful for me. I borrowed it and read it, mostly because I will likely want to place a book in his hand someday, but also because I’ve not read much on gender roles in the church written from the egalitarian position. I should have read another book. I should warn everyone that I’m a complementarian when it comes to gender roles. I hold this position both within the church and the family, and to a lesser extent, society at large. My wife jokes that I’m a He-man Woman Hater like Spanky, Alfalfa, and Buckwheat. I don’t think that’s true but I’m sure some will label me seriously as such because I hold to a traditional view of gender differences. Silk’s book hasn’t changed my mind. In fact, it has solidified me more in the complementarian perspective. Powerful and Free is by no means a scholarly treatment of the subject. It is an emotional appeal based on the experiences and opinions of the author. There is one chapter dealing with Paul’s writing about the role of women in the church and in the family. The author demonstrates a lack of consistency how he handles the English text as well as a laughable interaction with the original Greek. His argument is that because Paul says there is neither “male nor female” that all gender roles, even those he writes about, are null. Silk fails to interact with his primary text within its context and to tie it in with his other arguments. He handles Paul’s words with care like that of a chimpanzee driving a semi-truck. I recognized when I started the book that the author was a Bethel devotee. I was not surprised that much of the work spoke of anointing and power and other such language rooted in that movement. It did surprise me that such high regard was given to a “word” received while the biblical text was treated in so shallow a fashion. Here is where I find my greatest difference with the author. When someone claims to have received divine revelation outside of the Scriptures, and in this case counter to it, I will err on the side of the text rather than some feller’s inwardly received word. Silk seems to go the other way. Another issue I have with the book is its description of power. Power is always described in terms of authority and influence - usually in an institutional setting. This seems to be a rather masculine understanding. While the author does make clear the distinction between masculinity and femininity he fails to describe feminine power. In fairness, he comes close in chapter 7 while talking about Proverbs 31 but misses the opportunity and instead provides testimonials about women being empowered by their husbands to take leadership roles in business and the church. A biblical description of feminine power would be more helpful than examples of women in ministry positions. At several points in the book, Silk comes close to espousing a complementarian position. This is because he recognizes the clear distinction between male in female both in the text as well as in his own experience. Despite this, he fails to see that an equal standing before God in Christ with regard to judgment is not the same thing as an equal standing in positions of authority in the church or family. He lacks a biblical anthropology and ecclesiology. As a result, seems to be influenced by secular, feminist views. Never in Powerful and Free is there a reasonable description of those holding the complementarian view. He fails to interact with anyone holding the opposing position. I realize that a popular level book is not expected to deal extensively with the alternative view but gross mischaracterization, a charitable description of the author’s tone, is inappropriate. Silk should read Piper and Grudem’s Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood to better understand the position he opposes. I would also like to point out that making a comparison between the way biblical gender roles have been abused to the institution of slavery is dishonest. It is disrespectful to those harmed by slavery and misogyny. Powerful but Free misses the mark in furthering the discussion in the complementarian/egalitarian debate in any meaningful way. It may serve as a starting point for those interested in the subject, but it fails to support the author’s position or level serious criticism to his opposition. I'd skip it.
104 episodes later and the boys just keep getting better. The "Real Man American" is upset with Justin, he only made things worse. Martin has a friend claiming to be the male version of Storm from the X-men. And they get a shocking first time caller. All that and more.
Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
It's a fact, there are only one Martin and one Justin that you know. All others have to change their names. Martin has a leftover of drugs from his surgery. Justin is woefully unqualified. And the boys get a surprise phone call. Make sure you share the podcast give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform.
Feel free to give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
This is the Post-Easter podcast! Strange things happen during Easter services. Martin makes Justin nervous about his upcoming surgery. And the fellas get a phone call from an old friend asking for help. Make sure you share the podcast and make sure you give up a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform.
And give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.
The boys are back at it. Both talk about when they realized they were middle aged. Martin wants the organ to hit the preacher notes for him. Justin bans the tambourine from the worship band. All of this is known as Podcast Gold when the Two Bearded Preachers talk about it. Don't forget to leave a 5 star review on your favorite listening platform.
P.S. Martin gets choked out in a very awkward position.
Despite the rumors, Martin and Justin are not dead...yet. Instead they are back to their old ways bring you what you want, podcast gold. A lot has happened in their absence. Justin is now a professional streamer. Martins mom has an iPad Mini. They both weigh the option of starting an EDM worship service. And Martin makes Justin throw up. Like we said, podcast gold.
Those Bearded Brothers you know so well are at it again. This time they talk about how they plan their sermon series, how their stages at church are designed, and the best way to deal with aggressive nuisance critters. None will escape Justin's gaze as he stands on the platform and Martin will finally give his congregation a break from moving the furniture in this wonderous episode of podcast gold!
In this episode Justin and Martin talk about why they've not put out many episodes lately. You'll hear a little bit about the farm Martin moved into and how Justin deals with strangers calling him on the phone. We talk a little bit about The Last Jedi, but this conversation is so old there are no spoilers. Enjoy the show!
How should the preachers dress when they are wearing medical devices? Does the belt have to match the shoes? Does having a beard make you more likely to get arrested? All this and more is discussed right here! Listen to Martin and Justin go on and on about how clothes should be worn and who killed Biggie. Enjoy!
Yes they're back. Beards are back. Maybe a little worse for the wear, Justin and Martin make their triumphant return from injury to bring back that podcast gold you all know and love. Find out why there hasn't been a new episode for so long as Martin shares his tale of heroism and valor. Justin represents just as well sharing how he tried to scam his wife into a new microwave. Don't call it a comeback, call it what it is - straight fire.
The Two Bearded Preachers are at it again! They talk about the nature of evil in the aftermath of the Las Vegas mass murder without much more than lament. They lighten things up after the intermission discussing Idiocracy, Thunderdome, and the Orville. All the while they discuss their lives and ministries. Podcast Gold.
The Two Bearded Preachers revisit Chuck Norris at Starbucks and have a shocking experience. They discuss whether firearms should be available from the pulpit, and sing a few songs along the way. Justin continues to try and be a good son and Martin misapplies hip-hop lyrics. Podcast gold is here just for you!
Martin and Justin get back at mining that podcast gold after surviving the winds of hurricane Irma. They talk about why two men can't live together, America's Got Talent, and how one should interact with a celebrity when seen in public. This episode is too legit to quit, so you better not either.
Justin may be getting ready for the storm, but Martin is making sure that podcast gold gets released. In this episode of Two Bearded Preachers the fellers talk about getting ready for the hurricane, how grandmothers can be evil too, and why hemorrhoids are no laughing matter. Make sure you don't get involved in a land war in Asia and never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.
In this episode, Justin and Martin talk about why they have continued podcasting long after everyone thought they would quit. The Two Bearded Preachers take some time to discuss their current youth ministries and the opportunities that exist in both their churches. Justin has a tremendous victory against someone who attempts to facially profile him. Martin defends Joel Osteen's response to the flooding in Houston. This episode has a little bit of everything!
The Two Bearded Preachers read tweets from their favorite Twitter personality: Restoration Hulk! They smash your preconceived notions of how to position oneself while praying. Each shares how they work application into the sermon while disagreeing on the degree to which the pastor should apply the text during the message. You'll also find out which of the two has no trust for their children. Enjoy the show!
Justin and Martin talk about how to dress for success in the zombie apocalypse, the best way to fire a volunteer, and why popular preachers are just so darn good looking. There's also a story about Justin's kid falling in the shower and thoughts on why you don't need to carry primary and secondary weapons as well as train in martial arts. Some one's looking for a fight in this episode! Check it out!
In this episode, Justin and Martin talk about whether or not Christians ought to watch Game of Thrones. You may be offended by their answer, but it's highly doubtful that they care. Find out why Martin is stressed, the source of his cold sore, and how he plans to entertain Justin on a visit they have planned for later this year. Justin explains why he only likes television that has loose ties to reality, why he is so busy and admits he doesn't know how to clean a hog. The Two Bearded Preachers keep it pretty light in this episode, so don't beat them up too bad in the comments. Enjoy!
What you are about to hear is the podcast equivalent of taking all your leftovers and putting them in a casserole. Sometimes it makes the most delicious meal. Sometimes it is an absolute train wreck. In this episode, Martin took a bunch of clips he saved from previous conversations and slammed them together into an episode that isn't too far from the standard and is definitely worthy of the "podcastgold" hashtag. Justin finds comradery among the dads at the water park, Martin talks about one of the greatest classroom games from his high school days, and both just yammer on and on about nothing in particular making you wonder why you listen to this nonsense in the first place. They both also think it is important to beat your kids at video games and Pokemon. Enjoy the show!
Oh, did I mention Justin watched Twilight? Because he totally watched Twilight and we have it on good authority that he loved every minute of it and is 100% team Jacob.
The Two Bearded Preachers discuss how questionable choices can impact one's life, the big fight between Mayweather and McGregor, and how letting someone watch you play video games is a wonderful act of charity. More specifically, Justin crop dusts an entire VBS, Martin gets a ridiculous sunburn, and they both doubt the long term audience of boxing. Hear them lament the fact that there won't be a corresponding MMA match between Floyd and Conor while Justin tries to get new followers to his twitch account. Do him a favor and show a little love: https://www.twitch.tv/beardedgamr
Can Spider-man identify as a homosexual if he has neither homosexual actions or desires? It sounds like cultural appropriation to the Two Bearded Preachers so you better check your privilege. This week, Justin talks about how he is terrible at golf and refuses to explain pornography to his son. Martin promises to text an entire book to Justin and plans to see a living wild beaver even if it means staying up past his bedtime. They answer the age old question of why there are so many movie remakes and even discuss the insanity surrounding Eugene Peterson's bizarre behavior over the past few days. It's all good and there's no need to worry because there remain certain offshore accounts that will keep the show coming to you free of charge for the foreseeable future. Enjoy the show!
What could possibly be wrong with making new friends on Facebook? Martin finds out when Justin tells him Jayden K Smith may not be the talented actor from After Earth. Justin has a lot to say about how he responds to death and shares how talking about it is helpful. They try to figure out why FaceTime was misbehaving and talk about the best Netflix comedy with naughty words. Don't try to do math if it's after 11:00 and make sure to share this episode with all your snapchat followers, heathens.
Hey everyone! After a break that was just a little too long your favorite facially blessed preachers are back bringing that sweet, sweet podcast gold you all know and love. Listen to Justin and Martin talk about their experiences as deans of church camps, the horrors of dealing with children, and why there's just never enough summer to go around. The Two Bearded Preachers are back and better than ever in their much anticipated 83rd episode. Check it out and share it with the many acquaintances you interact with on social media.
Do you have a church camp horror story? Share it with the Two Bearded Preachers by calling 951-472-3273 and leaving a message. We promise Justin will listen to it!
Ok, we admit it, this episode is absolute gold! Sure, it may be strung together from the leftovers that have been stacking up, but that doesn't mean the conversation about taking the law into one's own hands isn't appropriate for today. We certainly think it is. Check out how we thread together conversation over a number of weeks in order to cover a week where our conversation was in person and not even recorded. We even talk a little about Andrew Peterson and his use of an instrument made out of an armadillo. That's podcast gold if anything is.
Katy Perry said what? Yes, when a terrible act of violence occurs pop stars say stupid things in response. It's almost as predictable as the sunrise. Justin and Martin spend a little time talking about terrorism, recognizing they are not the best individuals to discuss the topic. They move on from there to discuss the best way one could put medicinal marijuana into their system and decide it's probably by a suppository. The conversation then shifts to the doctrine of predestination and how people in the pews react to difficult theological subjects. This episode covers a lot of territory, so try and keep up with Two Bearded Preachers as they mine podcast gold once again.
Without question, the best R-rated superhero movie is in the X-Men universe but does Deadpool or Logan reign supreme? In this episode of the Two Bearded Preachers, Justin and Martin argue over which is superior. They also discuss why you should and shouldn't listen to the Drunk Ex-Pastors and Bad Christian podcasts, talk about how generational issues affect the church and are glad to hear most people these days are more interested in sound preaching than mirror balls at church. The whole conversation comes after they have already been talking for nearly an hour, so some of the conversation goes a little off the rails. At any rate, this episode unearths heaps of podcast gold for everyone to enjoy. Don't forget to share the episode while in casual conversation with your friends.
You're probably sitting at home, continually updating your podcast catcher, wondering why the latest episode of the Two Bearded Preachers hasn't dropped yet. Well, Justin and Martin happen to have lives outside of the show they occasionally need to maintain and that just happened to happen this weekend. Don't worry though. Your favorite show on the internet is here for you now and it is so very good.
This week the Bearded Duo talk about the terror of bike gangs in St. Cloud, how an interview should be conducted for positions in a church, and the best musical instrument for every style: the BONGOS! Learn why the didgeridoo is the instrument of the future and how to avoid getting run out of the church by your preacher. This episode takes podcast gold to the next level. Check it out.
The Two Bearded Preachers spend their time talking about how death as a Christian is a thing of solemn beauty. They also discuss how growing old impacts one's ability to practice martial arts effectively, talk to one of the show's best friends, and a Thom Rainer article about the challenges of being a pastor today. The show has some of the greatest conversation you've ever heard from two bearded feller's who have been friends for over a decade. Be sure to check it out and share with all your friends with a nice hand written letter. Don't forget, we love millennials. Enjoy the show.
It's all a part of the plan, folks. This episode has everything you've ever wanted for an audio diary of two preachers' friendship and some things you never knew you needed. Justin talks about how much he loves his squatty potty while Martin shares a war story from the middle east. They discuss their mutual love for Tim Keller and wish they had the buttery smoothness of his rhetoric. Justin claims to be funny in the pulpit and tells everyone why playing nice with the cable company is probably a good idea. Martin claims to be an angry preacher and complains about Bill Nye and his recent lunacy. The two talk about food, the best way to prepare shrimp, and why getting fatter makes body weight exercises better. They wrap up the episode wondering why Tim Challies thinks it's important for people to pay for their porn (trust us, it will all make sense in context). Oh, and somewhere in this heap of nonsense there's a Liar Liar reference so don't bust the fellers up about the cover art. Enjoy the show.
Would you like to join the conversation? Call the Two Bearded Preachers at 951-472-3273 and you may just be chosen to be on an episode. Check out Justin's power failure video on our Facebook page and get the latest and greatest on our Twitter feed.
What happens when murders use Facebook Live? How will the mother of all bombs (MOAB) affect the war on terror? Will Harry Potter Land be a better vacation than Star Wars Disney? We have no idea, but we talk about it all the same in the latest and greatest episode of the Two Bearded Preachers Super Show! In this episode, Justin will explain how he deals with rude behavior at the Starbuck's bathroom. Martin doesn't know if Facebook Live is a feature he deserves. They both get motion sickness as they try to avoid creating new Dad Fail episodes. Pay attention, Muggles, the Bearded Brothers are back and better than ever!
Would you like to join the conversation? Call the Two Bearded Preachers at 951-472-3273 and you may just be chosen to be on an episode. Get on our Facebook page, but don't murder anyone. Follow us on Twitter if you can handle 144 characters of the greatest podcast gold on the internet.
That's right, folks! It's the Two Bearded Preachers with an all new episode of podcast gold for your listening enjoyment. In this episode, you'll hear the differences between the Royal Rumble and Wrestle Mania clearly articulated. You'll also find out the single quality that makes a hippy an absolute delight to be around. Listen to how Chris Jericho gets one over on Justin. Discover some new material for that blog you've been thinking of starting as Justin and Martin explore how reading and writing have shifted since Al Gore invented the internet. Their mutual love of iPhones and all things iOS is discussed while dissing android. Justin describes an unsettling condition he's contracted from prolonged exposure to his step father. All this and so much more are here for your listening enjoyment!
Would you like to join the conversation? Call the Two Bearded Preachers at 951-472-3273 and you may just be chosen to be on an episode. Show us pictures of your beard on our Facebook page and share your love of the show on Twitter. You could write us an email, but the chances of us checking it aren't very good.
This week we're going back in time to hear how the Two Bearded Preachers accurately predicted the results of the 2016 presidential election using an elaborate rating system and immense insight into all things political. Justin wears a tutu and Martin fails to make his congregation laugh in this throw back episode from 2015. In the future, the fellers promise to schedule a little better and not forget their recording equipment at the office. If you haven't heard this one before you will definitely see how far the Two Bearded Preachers have come in terms of production and how far they have fallen in terms of planning episodes.
Enjoy!
Would you like to join the conversation? Call the Two Bearded Preachers at 951-472-3273 and you may just be chosen to be on an episode. You can tell us how we are slackers for not bringing the new content on Facebook and complain about how we have been saying the same old jokes to each other for our entire friendship on Twitter.
That's right folks, it's the GOATs of Podcasting bringing that podcast gold you all love so much. The Two Bearded Preachers talk about taking up martial arts with their kids and how judo and jiu jitsu can cause a lot of problems for middle aged men. Justin gives Martin a hard time about the dog he ran over from the previous episode and explains why it was such an issue for him. Martin claims shenanigans when Justin is unable to repeat certain details of his story and is irritated that Justin doesn't know all the lyrics of Five Iron Frenzy's "Blue Comb". Find out why it's all in the hips in our newest podcast ever.
Would you like to join the conversation? Call the Two Bearded Preachers at 951-472-3273 and you may just be chosen to be on an episode. You can talk to us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter, but to be honest, neither of us spend much time checking either feed.
In this week's episode of the Two Bearded Preachers podcast, Martin and Justin talk about the terrors of living in the southeast during an unusually cold March. Neither of them understands the more specific words for blankets used by their wives, bringing to mind Tyler Durden's discussion of the duvet and why men have this knowledge when it is entirely unnecessary to their being in the hunter/gatherer sense of masculinity. Martin discusses how interruptions can make for more interesting lessons and sermons, even though it can be difficult to transition back to the planned subject matter. Justin shares a little bit on how multitasking is for the young and middle-aged men are only able to one thing at a time. Toward the finish, Martin tells of how he hit a dog with his rental car and receives some sharp criticism from his friend.
Would you like to join the conversation? Call the Two Bearded Preachers at 951-472-3273 and you may just be chosen to be on an episode. You can talk to us on Facebook or stop by Martin's house in Glennville, the jewel of southeast Georgia.
Does Justin have a hero fantasy? Is Martin too old to start learning Judo? Who should be responsible for the care and maintenance of one's beard? The Two Bearded Preachers spend their time discussing these and other questions in this episode. Listen as Martin creates a Zen-like atmosphere in his home. Justin talks about his past as an Anglican. The Real Man American calls in to call Martin out about giving the sex talk to his elementary age kids. Both of the preachers talk about Ash Wednesday and Lent, communicating their respective skepticism about the practice. Can you smell the popery? You'll also get some tips on how to best maintain your firearms for minimal government interference. Talk about a wide-ranging conversation.
Would you like to join the conversation? Call the Two Bearded Preachers at 951-472-3273 and you may just be chosen to be on an episode. You can talk to us on Facebook or stop by Justin's house late in the evening for a friendly visit.
This just in... middle aged men aren't good at online video games. In this episode of Two Bearded Preachers, Martin admits he isn't very good at promoting the podcast or playing online video games. Justin overshares about marital issues and plays too many video games. Both offer their advice to an expectant father about the horrors he is about to experience in raising his very own baby. Justin goes on and on about how he is likely to die in his mid-fifties and Martin goes through the whole circle of emotions as he relives his 37th birthday. It's a conversation for the ages so be sure to check it out.
Want to join the conversation? You can call the Two Bearded Preachers at 951-472-3273 and be on an upcoming episode. Join the Two Bearded Preachers facebook page and try to tweet at us @twobearded.
You asked for it and we delivered! Dad Fail Friday, where you can feel better about yourself when you hear how awful Justin and Martin are at parenting. In this episode, Martin admits that there is no reason he hasn't signed his son up for Judo lessons, even though he's been meaning to for over a year. Justin fails by keeping his kids out late to watch NXT wrestling on a school night while shouting mean things at the Drifter. None of this behavior is appropriate and you should feel ashamed for laughing.
Want to join the conversation? You can call the Two Bearded Preachers at 951-472-3273 or join the Facebook group. We are @twobearded on Twitter, but we never check the feed.
The Two Bearded Preachers are trying their hardest to make those church gains, but what is the best way to measure success in ministry? Is it about leading people to grow the organization, or is there something more to it than that? In this episode, Justin and Martin talk about their criteria for successful ministry and point out that pastoring a church is fundamentally different than leading in the marketplace. Martin shares some demotivational techniques and Justin pretty much preaches his entire sermon for Sunday. This episode is outrageous!
The Two Bearded Preachers spend the episode discussing the meaning of life and whether or not the decisions we make matter. They comment on the fact that the listener doesn't get to hear the entire conversation since recording began well after they started talking. Justin gets his pump on and brags about his biceps. Martin is unimpressed and points out where his partner is wrong. Will listening to this episode matter in your life? One of us says yes, the other thinks it might not. Rest assured, it will make you happier than you were either way.
Justin and Martin talk about the golden era of television we are currently enjoying. The conversation begins with the rumors of a new Firefly series Fox seems willing to work on if only Joss Whedon will get on board. Then they discuss the joys of Burn Notice and Smallville before moving on to film. Neither of the Two Bearded Preachers are super excited about movies coming out this year with the exception of Lego Batman, Spiderman Homecoming, Guardians of the Galaxy, and pretty much any other MCU or DC movie. Maybe they are more interested in the 2017 movie scene than they say... Martin talks about the joy of Rogue One in Imax 3D and Justin spoils Split, the latest M. Night Shyamalan movie, for himself (don't worry, there aren't any spoilers in the episode). After all that they still find time to talk about how Martin's daughter broke her arm doing a back hand spring. What a glorious episode for your listening pleasure!
It's the newest episode of the Two Bearded Preachers! Justin and Martin discuss the role of emotions in the worship service and ask if they do themselves a disservice by minimizing emotional responses in the church. Martin talks about his experience at the Glennville Community Revival where Dr. Ron Archer pushed him out of his comfort zone. Justin shares how his son, Jonas, handled a bully at school with style and grace. Both share about how playing Diablo 3 is a spiritual exercise. Don't misbehave with that garlic bread, treat yourself with podcast gold instead. This episode is carbohydrate free.
Martin W. Bender
Fusion is an explanation of the assimilation program Nelson Searcy utilizes in his local church. It has many practical suggestions on how a congregation can be more effective at interacting with guests and engaging them outside the walls of the church facility. The book is all about function and encouraging the reader to be intentional about moving the first-time guest into fully engaged member of the church.
Fusion is not a book on ecclesiology. In fact, the greatest frustration I had with the book was the lack of clarity concerning what the responsibilities and privileges of church membership are for the individual. He does make the point very clear that membership is for believers, but it saddens me that such a point must be made in a book discussing how to appropriately assimilate people into the church. When a congregation lacks a clear understanding of the nature of the church any assimilation program will resort to pragmatism. How pragmatic were the first Christians in the establishment and building of the church?
In my congregation, we need to do a better job of listening to our membership. The systems that have been effective in the past are no longer working due to societal shifts. With this in mind, we will begin using some of the ideas presented in the book, but at the same time, we are developing and teaching a thorough ecclesiology in order to ensure our methodology is consistent with scripture.
Searcy, Nelson with Jennifer Dykes Henson. Fusion: Turning first-time guests into fully-engaged members of your church. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 2007.
The Two Bearded Preachers once again take on the controversial topic of facial profiling when Martin shares how his fanboy interaction with JD Hall left him feeling marginalized due to his fabulous face mane (apparently, he looks like he's in the Reformed Pub). Justin, enraged at the lack of common courtesy, threatens to begin a trolling campaign on his behalf. The conversation mellows as the two friends turn toward the upcoming Ligonier National Conference where Justin hopes to find some Abolish Human Abortion protestors to troll if only he can get a ticket. In the end, Martin has a positive view of Facebook because Scott Bradley of Post Modern Jukebox played his "Desperado" request during a Facebook Live interaction. It seems all is made right with the world by the end of this incredible, two-part extravaganza of hilarity.
Have Justin and Martin become crotchety in their old age? You'll probably say yes after listening to this episode where neither can keep their cool in social media interactions. Both feed the trolls in spite of knowing better and end up more upset than any reasonable person should become. They also talk about how the upcoming Royal Rumble will undoubtedly be the best until the next one rolls around and talk a little Christian anthropology. All that and a bonus episode to follow since they kept talking long into the night. Here's the first half, with Two Bearded Preachers episode 66B to follow in just a little bit.
Facial profiling is not a victimless crime. Justin and Martin share about the times they were facially profiled in their second outing in the podcasting world. Listen as strange echoes, mysterious buzzing, and voice fade out plagues the bearded brothers. This episode is obviously one of their first as it sounds even worse than normal. Do you remember when they called the show "Partially Informed"? You will after listening to this throwback show! #endfacialprofiling
What is the best way to annoy your wife and all the people at the Starbucks? Use a Fidget Cube. Justin shares his experience with the world's most useless start-up and his concerns about the fire that recently took place at the Sausage Castle (surprisingly, it's not a breakfast place). Martin tries to figure out how evangelism, discipleship, and knowledge are related and shares how optimistic he is about the new year. Both of the fellers remember the rules at FCC and sort of understand them, but not really. What a fantastic conversation!
Martin W. Bender
Within the first few pages of Ignite, I knew where the book was going to go. Searcy references Rick Warren’s The Purpose-Driven Church by sharing the all too familiar target analogy. The idea is simple: move people from the community into the core of the congregation. This book focuses on how to bring people from the community into the crowd of folks attending so they can later move closer and closer to the center of the target: the core.
The genius of the book is that it has sequels built in. The outline is already set, all one must do is write out a methodology for moving from one group to the next, add some fictitious examples, and blammo! Book deal.
Don’t get me wrong, the book isn’t terrible. In fact, it has some good ideas in it, but it seems like a rehashing of Warren’s uber popular church growth book and I had already read that one. Anywho… let’s get on with the good stuff.
The basic gist of Searcy’s method is to have a big event that is built up for several weeks, supported through marketing channels, executed with a high degree of professionalism, and actively followed up upon. Most ministers know the days where they will have higher than average attendance. Emphasize these days, plan well for them in the preaching plan, encourage the congregation to invite folks, challenge the whole congregation to something greater on those days, and follow up with guests. That’s the whole book.
The best idea to take from Ignite is the idea of consistency in communication. Searcy seems to argue that the best boot to ground measure to take in developing an evangelistic spirit with the congregation is to continuously communicate the need of the people to evangelize. He recommends peppering all the functions of the church evangelism as a value so that people are more likely to engage in the activity. When the people internalize this oft-repeated message they will naturally begin bringing others into the crowd gathering for worship.
The worst part of the book is Searcy’s rather flippant understanding of evangelism. He tends to use the word as if it means inviting people to church. That isn’t evangelism. Evangelism is the communication of the Gospel to the nonbeliever. In the system described, the work of the church member isn’t evangelism, but an invitation to be evangelized by another. There’s nothing wrong with this, but it’s a mistake to call something evangelism that’s really promotion. Maybe I’m just being a snob here, but it seems like a problem to me.
Ignite reads quick and has some good methods for making the most out of big days in the life of the congregation. It heavily relies upon Rick Warren and the Saddleback methodology for church growth. It has been proven effective in numerous locations around the US and may just work in your area as well. There’s nothing ground breaking in the book making it required reading, but it isn’t a waste of time either. If you hate Rick Warren, and I know some of you do, don’t bother with this one.
Searcy, Nelson with Jennifer Dykes Henson. Ignite: How to spark immediate growth in your church. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 2009.
Is Troll Hunter viable entertainment? What about Troll Hunters? Justin and Martin discuss this in the first episode of 2017. Over the course of the conversation, you'll find out why Justin has a new found respect for government, how Martin is going to score a new diploma, and the reason neither plan on moving to Canada any time soon. At the same time, the wonders of Netflix are navigated for you as the bearded brothers share their very favorite recommendations and hear a few pet peeves about television along the way. You'll also find out why Gen X people have trouble getting along with Millennials, the joys of Steaksgiving, and an update on Justin's curse. This episode certain covers a lot of ground, but not very well. Enjoy!
P.S. Why doesn't Justin know what Juggalos are?
Martin W. Bender
Maybe I’m just being nitpicky, but it seems like Thom Rainer only writes one book. As I read through Who Moved My Pulpit I couldn’t help but be reminded of I am a Church Member and The Unexpected Journey. It might be because all these books share similar content (they all deal with church leadership, something Rainer certainly knows a lot about) or maybe there is a higher level of repetition in his writing than I’m used to, but it will probably be a while before I crack open another of his works. With that little caveat in mind, let’s talk about why you should always lift with your legs when moving a pulpit.
Who Moved My Pulpit is a book about how to lead change in a congregation. It may surprise some to hear that good leaders are always interested in change, but it’s the truth. Leadership is moving others toward a preferable future – notice all the change language in that statement. There is movement, that movement is directive, the destination is superior to the current location, and it is forward in time. Those are four change terms used in defining leadership. I bring all this up because the readers of this article are most likely members of the congregation I pastor and might be interested to know how I define successful leadership.
Rainer doesn’t make any incredible observations in this book. It is primarily a reminder that making changes in a congregation should be done slowly. He emphasizes prayer as the starting point and continues to repeat the need for prayer throughout the book. He also leaves the nature of the changes that need to be made up to the reader. This is very positive considering all the advice flying around the internet about church growth methodologies. Rainer assumes the reader understands the nature of the changes that ought to be made and outlines the ideal way to make it happen.
My favorite line is one he lifted from an earlier book: you make changes in a congregation the same way you eat an elephant – one bite at a time (it’s a paraphrase). At Glennville First Christian Church there are so many changes I’d like to make the task seems overwhelming. I make the joke that we are going to change everything twice before I’m done, but the reality is that I’d like to develop a love for change in the congregation so that it is one of our core values.
I may use Who Moved My Pulpit again, but it will likely be for the illustrations or to point congregants to an easily accessible book on leading through change.
Rainer, Thom S. Who Moved My Pulpit: Leading change in the church. (Nashville, Tennessee: B&H Publishing Group, 2016).
It isn't a party until Sweet Caroline is sung. You know that's the truth. Well, Justin and Martin start this party off with a little Neil Diamond and then wander into the holiday majesty of Sea World before ending up talking about the true meaning of Christmas. That's right folks, it's a Christmas episode you don't want to miss. Are otters the primadonnas of the pinnipeds? Does Santa's beard power the sleigh? Will all the Christmas programs be finished in time? All this and more will be answered in this very special Christmas episode of Two Bearded Preachers.
Does the Two Bearded Preachers podcast break the rules for acceptable behavior for pastoral people? Probably not. In this week's episode, Justin and Martin discuss the many benefits they receive from the podcast. There's a little bit of history told and the original plan of the show described, but it wasn't a good idea so the Bearded Brothers just started recording their regular conversations and the show got a lot better. Later in the episode, they talk about how they give advice to their congregations and the burden of eggnog.
Can a podcast be overly produced? The Two Bearded Preachers certainly don't think so, but it might be possible to overly produce a worship service. In this episode, Martin and Justin talk about sincerity in worship as they consider the implications of using decidedly secular music in the formal worship of the church. They also recount stories from their time in youth ministry and recognize that they are far more suited to the pulpit. Another area of discussion is men's health. Justin and Martin talk about the social awkwardness of the hernia test and tie it into their mutual love of podcasts. Oh, and Imagine Dragons rocks.