Previously Rep. Cicilline had called these four companies monopolies, and the anti-trust undertones— and overtones— ran throughout the meeting.

This is the first Empathetic Machines current events podcast. @Charla Stracener, @Sue Hallen, and @Naoshi Yamauchi join us to explore, expand, and opine. Our panel includes leaders of technology firms, business transformations, and disruptive digital products.

There was more than a little politicking for us to discuss, but there’s a case to made that the standout attendee was not an elected official. Lina Khan, a “hipster anti truster,” sat behind Rep. Cicilline as an advisor. Her legal article, “Amazon Antitrust Paradox” has catalyzed a rethink of anti trust, and of innovation.

Join Empathetic Machines founders, Cristene Gonzalez Wertz and William Thomas. To our usual collision of tech and ethics we add politics, gaslighting, grandstanding, and possibly the launch of a congressional campaign for 2022.