In this episode we celebrate the launch of our first book https://www.routledge.com/Freelancing-for-Journalists/Canter-Wilkinson/p/book/9780367135553 (Freelancing for Journalists). We talk to freelance journalists and published authors Michelle Rawlins and Frank Shennan about getting your first non-fiction book published and navigating the world of agents, ghost writing and self-publishing. Michelle has recently released https://www.amazon.co.uk/Women-Steel-Sheffields-Factory-Sisters-ebook/dp/B07TC8WZVM (Women of Steel) which tells the stories of the feisty factory sisters who helped to win the Second World War. Frank is co-author of https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rebels-Paradise-Inside-Battle-Football/dp/1851586776 (Rebels in Paradise), the inside story of the battle for Celtic Football Club together with a range of other non-fiction books. The guests: Michelle Rawlins @Mrawlins1974 Frank (Francis) Shennan @francisshennan Resources: Crowd funding publisher https://unbound.com/ (https://unbound.com/) Facebook group - The No 1 author ladies buddy agency https://www.facebook.com/groups/629905610420201 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/629905610420201) Publishers Marketplace https://www.publishersmarketplace.com/ (https://www.publishersmarketplace.com/) How to get published guide https://getpublished.penguin.co.uk/ (https://getpublished.penguin.co.uk/)