As fires ravaged California's world-famous wine country in 2017, a community radio station, emergency dispatcher, and tenant organizers helped the most vulnerable in their community survive and recover. Community organizers and hosts of the podcasts But Next Time, Chrishelle Palay and Rose Arrieta, bring us the first of four stories of hard-won lessons learned from people on the front lines of California’s wildfires and Texas’ storms as they work to answer the question, how can next time be different?

Because we are committed to language justice, we're offering a video version of But Next Time with Spanish subtitles on our site's listen page. https://risehomestories.com/but-next-time/listen/

To learn more about the people and organizations featured in But Next Time please visit ButNextTime.com. You'll find resources for disaster preparation and recovery, housing justice organizing, climate justice work, and more.

Original music by Fernando Arruda.