On today's episode:

• What does a depressive episode really feel like?

• How MK & Jill try and jump start their moods

• Christine Miserandino's spoon theory

About Mary Katherine Backstrom:

Mary Katherine Backstrom is an influencer and the bestselling author of Mom Babble, Holy Hot Mess: Finding God in the Details of this Weird and Wonderful Life and the upcoming Crazy Joy. She has been featured on The Today Show, CNN, and The New York Times — but her friends and family are most impressed with her one-time appearance on Ellen. MK resides in Alabama with her husband, children, two dogs, and a cat.

Follow MK on Facebook.com/MKBackstrom

Hear her on the Closer to Fine Podcast

Buy her books:

Mom Babble

Holy Hot Mess: Finding God in the Details of this Weird and Wonderful Life

Crazy Joy