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As promised, you can find the podcast we referenced on the “Unlocking Us podcast with Brene Brown.” The episode is “Esther Perel on New AI - Artificial Intimacy” on Apple and Spotify podcasts. It’s a live recording of Brene Brown and therapist Esther Perel. To leave Mitch and Caitlyn a comment on the episode, contact us through the new St. Martin’s app!