In this episode, we continue our conversation with John Littlejohn about his unique career path as both a musician and a pastor. He tells us that in both of these professions, the end goal is to teach people about life and help others succeed. We also discuss the importance of finding motivations beyond wanting validation, as well as holding the people in your life accountable and having them do the same for you.

---

This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/creative-baggage/support