It's no Taylor Swift concert — but six thousand people are expected in Minneapolis this weekend for the Elks National Convention.

The Elks are a national fraternal service organization, similar to the Lions, Kiwanis or the Moose. These days, fraternal organizations have a fraction of the members they had at their peak in the 1970s.

What relevance do fraternal organizations have in 2023? Past Elks national president Paul Ryan says it’s all about service.

MPR News host Tim Nelson talked with Ryan, who lives in Willmar.