I'm interviewed by James Pann, PhD (https://evalnetwork.com/about-me/) about my latest research on evaluation study in the American Journal of Evaluation. We discuss the difference between research and evaluation, the pros and cons of professionalization, the definition of evaluation, and other evaluation related topics. Link to the article in AJE (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1098214020920710) Link to the YouTube video of the interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLcYU9xptwU) If you've got ideas for the podcast, or would like to be a guest on the podcast (students, practitioners, scholars, and others are all welcome!), then please email me at dana@danawanzer.com Music by Matt Ingelson, http://www.mattingelsonmusic.com/