In this episode, we take a different tack from discussions about John's most recent book Woke Racism. We discuss whether "anti-wokeness" is a new religion, how to engage with and persuade the people John calls "The Elect," how grave a threat "wokeness" really is compared to other contemporary issues, Critical Race Theory in schools, and the consequences of centering race in one's identity. We also go on to chat about language and semantics, the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, the popularity of "Latinx," the ever-evolving social taboo that is "the N-word," and more. Dr. John McWhorter is an associate professor of linguistics at Columbia University, an op-ed columnist at the New York Times, and the author of a number of books on topics ranging from linguistics to race relations such as the Power of Babel: A Natural History of Language, and Losing the Race: Self Sabotage in Black America.