Season 5 rolls on! In Episode 2 of The Backstretch Podcast, hosts Heather Williams and Chris Carrier break down all the biggest moments from the Clash.

• In What Matters | What Doesn’t, the crew debates a question every NASCAR fan is asking: Does it really matter to win the Clash, or is finishing well the real victory?
• Then it’s Say What… time as we dissect the heated radio exchanges between Bubba Wallace and Daniel Suárez, plus James Small’s very vocal frustration over the fuel caution.
• We’re also joined by two great guests: Austin Dillon talks racing, momentum, and the season ahead | Nate Bargatze, Daytona 500 Grand Marshal, stops by with laughs and insight you don’t want to miss
• From on-track chaos to off-track drama (and a little comedy), this episode has it all.
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