This week's all about starting the year as Naisi and Grace review their first week back to school and back to Parliament - the similarities are surprising! Then they dive into a discussion about the ban on conversion therapy which passed a few weeks ago. Plus, why did Naisi really miss Herbie during the Christmas recess? Also, who is Herbie? The music is New Beginnings by Scott Holmes, licensed under Creative Commons.

Authorised by Naisi Chen MP, Parliamentary Buildings, Wellington.