I remember it began with the story of an octopus. Then, a teacher and a scientist chatted about different lifestyles and the dedication they require. The holidays were getting Diana and Ian down in the dumps, so they vented a bit about the pandemic and current politics. Naturally, they got into how relationships with one's family are often quite different during childhood than during adulthood; especially once considering the potential of becoming a parent one's self. Ian and Diana ponder their spiritual purpose, talk about trauma and healing, and joke about travel, escape fantasies before concurring that the most straightforward path in life is setting goals and taking action to follow through with them. Societal concerns about mental health, repression, homophobia, transphobia, and machismo culture are discussed, as the cohosts consider their privileges and biases while being metacognitive and practicing tolerance.

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