This week Rory joins John Chodacki, who is responsible for overseeing the strategic planning, development, and operational management of the California Digital Library's (CDL) digital curation group, UC3. John has a background in product management within digital publishing and scholarly communications organisations, and is well placed to talk about FORCE11, FAIR data and representing CDL in the global research community. 

In this episode, Rory and John discuss how he got involved in data, the role of altruism in the growing FAIR data movement and interesting ethical and governance issues. Finally, they conclude with thoughts on the future of FAIR data, as well as challenges and exciting opportunities to come!