This episode is in two parts : two recording of conversations about The 7 Stages of Grieving and The Longest Memory. . In the first part Ms Murr is joined by Gemma Milner, Ebony Lo Casto and Abby Humphreys and focuses on pair number 2 of the passages explored in class. The second part of the session is a conversation about passage pair number 4, with Kobe Francis and Sam Potter (who also graciously edited this episode - Thanks Sam!)