Ethen sheds some light reflection on his life circumstances with positive spins he likes to consider; Josh digs a little deeper and begins to pry more and more from Ethen as to what he is really dwelling on...
Then, exactly at the 1:00:00 mark...they begin admitting some things to themselves.
Rough, to say the least; raw, vulnerable and very honest. They take the moment to verbalise what they're really thinking about their own worth...
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Josh engaged Ethen with a great deal of persistence throughout this podcast, allowing him to express himself but eventually leading him to a place of pain and anguish; all too necessary. Not always the most comfortable place to be but in being truly authentic, it's a side of of us that we neglect in expressing. And it had to be explored.
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