This week Today FM brought you a rare insight into the minds of young people involved in ram raids, and smash and grabs.

In a documentary released yesterday, Wilhelmina Shrimpton spoke to a 13 and 15 year old who explained why they did what they did. The kids were contrite and apologetic to the owners of the stores they attacked 

But there’s mixed opinions about how best to deal with these young offenders

Today we'll hear from youth lawyer Harvena Cherrington, who wants some empathy shown to these young people, but also Dairy and Business owners chair Sunny Kaushal, who's not so keen on that approach. 

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