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Ivan Arreguin-Toft, Professor of International Security at Brown University, discusses asymetric warfare, conflict strategies and information warfare in the Ukraine conflict. This is part I of a two-part conversation.

Part II: Ivan and I dive into some more personal and human aspects of conflict in the second part of our conversation, coming soon.

Book: How the Weak Win Wars by Ivan Arreguin-Toft

Journal article: How the Weak Win Wars by Ivan Arreguin-Toft

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