Ryan James, CEO of Surety Bank speaks with Tanner Mayo, President of FedFis and part of the FinTech Cowboys.

On today's episode, they talk about everything from the importance of bankers understanding the revenue generated with debit cards, not shying away from core convergences, and the overall belief in crypto.

Tanner also gives insight into what he thinks the future of banking holds, and his opinion might just surprise you.

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