Its a candid conversation between Amanda and her friend, best selling author, and business woman Ellen Smoak about life in the terrific yet transformational 40s (a decade the ladies love). But its also a time thats included a bit of crap before finding that crowning momenton the other side of a pandemic no less. Key survival tips include a mantra or two, learning to give yourself grace, to just be, and to share your truthbecause you never know how it will help someone else if you dont.