As Ireland continues to grapple with rising inflation, Bobby was joined by economist Colm McCarthy who says that we may have to start thinking outside the box when it comes to energy. Listen and subscribe to Down to Business with Bobby Kerr on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.    Download, listen and subscribe on the Newstalk App.     You can also listen to Newstalk live on newstalk.com or on Alexa, by adding the Newstalk skill and asking: 'Alexa, play Newstalk'.