Gabe & Ben host Chase Cunningham for round 2 on Dark Mode. Chase is a strategic advisor to board-level stakeholders, offering unique insights into cyber security and his ability to turn everything into eyebrow-raising analogies! Chase has also done fantastic work in zero trust, having been a principal analyst at Forrester and shaping the ASD Essential 8 Framework in Australia. With that, we zero-trust that you enjoy this episode!

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Show Notes: 00:00 - Introduction 05:01 - Chase’s new Leadership book 11:51 - API is the New Network16:31 - State of the Union20:05 - Board Level & CISOs25:53 - Verizon Data Breach Report 30:35 - Artificial Intelligence36:00 - Manage Security Service Providers 42:20 - Next Generation Vendors

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