Like, maybe? But also, maybe not? Maybe definitely not? We ask Professor Peter Sainsbury for answers.

A now retired public health doctor, Professor Sainsbury holds qualifications in medicine, health planning, medical administration and public health and has a PhD in sociology. He has a career-long interest in social policy, particularly related to health equity and the social determinants of health, healthy built environments and environmental sustainability.

In this episode, we talk about capitalism, humanitarianism, the recent COP27 and, you know, the fate of humanity, all through the lens of climate change. If you're interested (read: anything from oblivious to frustrated to desperate) in why we have the tools to solve climate change and yet - astoundingly - we repeatedly refuse to, this is the episode for you.

Mentioned in the episode:

• COP27
• Climate and Health Alliance - Prof Sainsbury is a past president
• Public Health Association Australia - Prof Sainsbury is a past president
• Doctors for the Environment Australia
• Market Forces - your money as a force for good
• “There’s no such thing as a win-win revolution." - Ian Angus, a Canadian ecosocialist activist
• Recommended reading from Prof Sainsbury: Varoufakis details vision for ending ‘Global Empire of Capital’ to avert catastrophe

See you in the revolution 🔥

P.S. Prof Sainsbury writes an environmental column in Pearls & Irritations every Sunday, it's well worth the read!