Spotify, Oracle, and Comcast have each recently announced they’re going with co-C.E.O.s. In this 2023 episode, we dig into the research and hear firsthand stories of triumph and disaster. Also: lessons from computer programmers, Simon and Garfunkel, and bears versus alligators.

  • SOURCES:
    • Jim Balsillie, retired chairman and co-C.E.O. of Research In Motion.
    • Mike Cannon-Brookes, co-founder and C.E.O. of Atlassian.
    • Scott Farquhar, co-founder and former co-C.E.O. of Atlassian.
    • Marc Feigen, C.E.O. advisor.
    • Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, professor of management studies and senior associate dean at the Yale School of Management and founding president of the Chief Executive Leadership Institute.
    • Laurie Williams, professor of computer science at North Carolina State University.
  • RESOURCES:
    • "Scott Farquhar to resign as joint CEO of Atlassian," by Jonathan Barrett (The Guardian, 2024).
    • "Is It Time to Consider Co-C.E.O.s?" by Marc A. Feigen, Michael Jenkins, and Anton Warendh (Harvard Business Review, 2022).
    • "The Costs and Benefits of Pair Programming," by Alistair Cockburn and Laurie Williams (2000).
    • "Strengthening the Case for Pair Programming," by Laurie Williams, Robert R. Kessler, Ward Cunningham, and Ron Jeffries (IEEE Software, 2000).
  • EXTRAS:
    • "The Secret Life of a C.E.O.," series by Freakonomics Radio (2018).

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