This episode looks at the religious-based discrimination in the National School Chaplaincy Program that prevents non-religious people from becoming chaplains. We hear from two people who wanted to work in the taxpayer-funded roles but could not because of their lack of religious belief. In Western Australia, retired school principal Karen Garn-Jones lodged a complaint with the state’s Equal Opportunity Commission last year. In Victoria, Juliette Armstrong took her case to the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal, where a settlement was reached.