Acclaimed author and energy healer Kagiso Msimango lays out how we can manage toxic relationships without hurting ourselves. She sits down with Don't Hold Back host Nozibele Qamngana Mayaba over the customary snack and reveals how we often still have control over our lives, even if all seems lost.

Among other things, they discuss:

• Dealing with toxic relationships

• Taking responsibility in your life

• Self doubt and insecurity

• Shifting focus from blame to empowerment

• The labels we give people that aren't helpful

• The culture of being offended and why this isn't helpful

• What it means to be 'woke'

• Following your intuition