Show Summary |

Despite the crypto horror stories of late, some are doubling down.
In this episode, I talk to Matt Harcourt from Apollo Capital. Matt Harcourt’s job is to consider evolving risks and invest in opportunities that have emerged from financial instruments powered by code, which are purportedly free of dependence on intermediaries and interference from bad actors.
Matt takes us through how one can (still) build wealth in decentralised finance and we reflect on the learnings from the last few months of crypto turmoil and what it might mean for the ecosystem in the short to medium term.
In Matt’s words, the episode is “unapologetically technical” at times, so I’ve included a cheat sheet of key terms on Substack.

Follow Matt on Twitter @DeFiGuy3
Timestamps |

1:30 - Matt’s background and journey into DeFi

3:00 - The ways in which Apollo invests

4:20 - How Apollo is navigating the crypto winter and what they’ve learned from recent events

12:20 - Providing liquidity to a liquidity pool and the associated risks

13:30 - Smart contracts and protocols

14:30 - Comparing the governance of a protocol to the function of a traditional company

16:30 - Assessing smart contract risk

20:30 - The differences between TradFi, CeFi and DeFi

25:45 - Lessons to be learned from the mismanagement of Celsius (CeFi institution)

30:00 - A diversified approach to investing in crypto

32:00 - ‘Bridging’ risk and transferring crypto assets across different blockchains

36:30 - How Matt filters through hype and marketing

40:00 - What Apollo has planned and where you can follow Matt and Apollo

Socials |

Matt’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-harcourt-5b6742159/

Matt’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/DeFiGuy3

Apollo’s Website: https://www.apollocap.io/

Apollo’s Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/apollo-capital/

Apollo’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/ApolloCapitalAU

Upside DAO (the new accelerator Apollo have formed in partnership with Caleb & Brown, Banxa and a number of other investors): https://twitter.com/Upside_Aus

Other Notable Mentions:

Index Coop - https://indexcoop.com/

Chain Flip - https://chainflip.io/

Stargate - https://stargate.cosmos.network/

Defi Llama - https://defillama.com/

Cheat Sheet |

Thanks for listening to Abstraction! Subscribe to receive each episode in your inbox.

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit abstractionpodcast.substack.com